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[Kain] Mar 03, 2005, 10:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> RAID Issues
Mike Thellend,
( Mar 02, 2005, 03:17 PM)

>>>I ran a Terra Byte from my A7N8X-D with a Promise Fast Trak TX 150 4 Channel SATA RAID card RAID 0+1 and had no problems, well, none that I couldn't fix. Yes it trashed my data once! But with a fresh install of XP with card and drivers in place, it never did it again.

WOW! That is one impressive rig you've got there! Ahh... I remember the good old days of water cooling. I just can't take the noise of radiator fans though. I want a nice, quiet computer.

I will look into that Fast Trak controller. It seems odd the connectors are not on the edges of the PCB though. Having perpendicular SATA plugs sure takes up a lot of space.

Thanks!

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Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 03, 2005, 11:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 11:36am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
I will look into that Fast Trak controller. It seems odd the connectors are not on the edges of the PCB though. Having perpendicular SATA plugs sure takes up a lot of space.

If my geometry serves me right, I do believe they are not perpendicular. I could be wrong though, it's been awhile since I touched base with angles.

What problems did you initially experience, and how did you fix them? Did you simply load current drivers?

I just lost 350 GIGS of compressed RAR and Zip files once. I tried to open some archived files that I knew were good before and nothing but invalid CRC's. Not all was lost. Do not use partition magic on this RAID setup, this is where all hell broke loose. Leave to the default BASIC volume windows settings, not dynamic. Install new OS with system and drivers ready. Once you set the RAID, leave it, no changes, default cluster size. Test files periodically, it doesn't get lost in one shot. This is all I remember at this point.

Mike :)

Alkemyst Darkened Mar 03, 2005, 11:50am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
>Mainly want more memory to avoid disk thrashing when upping the settings in games like
>StarWarsGalaxies. If I can avoid paging to disk as much as possible I would be really happy. Are you
>saying that for current gaming, that 1gig memory is all that is required? Its not about bragging so much as
>having the best performance. If 1 gig is better for games than 2, then I'll stick to 1.

>Yep, not after media editing just solid game presentation at high settings in games where a lot of texture
>loading occurs (eg driving your landspeeder into Mos Eisly or in World of Warcraft when a raiding party run
>into the area)

1GB of ram should be more than enough....you may need a 256MB video card though for maximum textures now. I don't think any game uses more yet or planned.

In most machines (not just the A8N) whenever you use 1GB DIMMS or 4 banks of memory the machine has to add in another wait state for the RAM....if you absolutely need it you gain some performance...but you enter the world of where people should be on a SGI and the like IMHO.


Bill Drehoff Mar 03, 2005, 02:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
asus a8n-sli deluxe
amdathlon64 3500 winchester
corsair pc-3200 2x512 in dualchannel
2x leadtech px6600gt 500/1000 oc'ed to 558/1130 card 1 temp idle 44c load 49 card 2 idle 42c load 47
wd raptor 10k
soundblaster audigy2
antec truepower430watt
bios 1004
driver 71.81
hey fellas,thanks Mike for page 16 good stuff I got my system at 6800 3dmark2005 just the video cards oc.I got a little bit of glitch in unrealtournament2004.when i'm playing the game in the center of the screen when i pass over objects i get a slight distortion.My question is this is this normal do you think its the drivers i'm using 71.81 or overclocked too much.Not enough amperage not using a 24pin power supply.Thanks Mike and everyone for all the input given in this forum.

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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 04:07pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Bill.

Not enough amperage not using a 24pin power supply


Get one soon!

And I didn't mean a SLI unit with split rails either, I meant a 24 pin, period... I've explained why you need a 24 Pin in this forum before, if Sander setup the search system a little better you would easily find it.
I had a 20 pin 650 Watt enermax before this one and it didn't cut the mustard for my equipment.
As I said before, I build power supplies, I know a lot about them. I have an enermax 36 AMP single rail and it works fine! EG651P-VE (24P) With built in super noise killer Version 1.3 under $200.00 CAD

Mike :)

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
The 24pin PSU in and of itself is not a guarantee for amperage, also many 20pin PSU's will supply adequate amps.

The 24pin PSU was a creation of Intel with the socket 775 Prescott and high amp video cards for max stability now that PSU manufacturers are splitting the 12V rails into two puny ones (<20 amps each) usually.

Best bet is to stick with the recommended ones here and/or Asus's website.

Wes Hetrick Mar 03, 2005, 04:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
It wasnt the fact that the motherboard didnt fit, its the problem of having my AGP 6800 fit into the slot properly because the case was preventing it in some way.
Well my other PCI cards as well

This board cannot accept an AGP card. It is for PCI-Express only.

PETER PALAITIS Mar 03, 2005, 04:23pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Does this board need a case speaker connected to hear the beep codes? If so, where can I find one? Seems to be a lot of hi-tech speaker systems out there for sale, but I can't find a cheap case speaker anywhere, and my case didn't come with one. Thx..

Whizzz AKA: SLI Scientist@Work Mar 03, 2005, 04:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 04:45pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Wes

This board cannot accept an AGP card. It is for PCI-Express only

Good catch on that one. My wife must have been bugging me at that point in time. lol

Jamie must have taken a bat to his board. lol

One thing is bugging me though, he said his PCI cards didn't fit either.
>>>Well my other PCI cards as well

So maybe he did have PCI E but just called it AGP

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 05:56pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
PETER PALAITIS

Yes you need the speaker.
Radio Shack, got any in the states?
Any old used computer case should have one.
An electronics store, TV, Radio, put the speaker connector on yourself.
An old clock radio, in your sons or daughters toys etc.. a small walkie talkie, a smoke detector. I could sit here all night and give you ideas. A tweeter from a tiny stereo system, a telephone receiver, a tape recorder, a headset for a walkman, car door under the dash speaker, not that your wife would let you...

8 OHMS
0.25W

Mike :)

Kevin Estes Mar 03, 2005, 05:09pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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System did not boot in A1 and B1 so settled for A2 B2 is there any loss in performance by doing this?


Sounds familiar eh Mike? Dr dr is your ram currently running in single channel or dual channel mode? Oh and by the way did I tell you guys I'm having a problem with dual channel ram also. LOL Kevin

Asus A8N-SLI w AMD64 3500+ Winnie
2 x 512mb OCZ EL Patinum Rev. 2 DDR400 PC3200 RAM
2 74gb Raptors in Nvidia RAID 0
2 x BFG 6800GT OC
Gigabyte 3D Rocket CPU cooler
PC Power and Cooling 510 SLI PSU
Dave Ballantyne Mar 03, 2005, 05:15pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Simon Lu,

Well updating from a cd worked. One heart stopping moment when nothing worked on reboot, but after resetting the CMOS it is working


Dave

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Dave Ballantyne

Right on brother.

Mike :)

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Edited: Mar 03, 2005, 05:41pm EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Kevin,

System did not boot in A1 and B1 so settled for A2 B2 is there any loss in performance by doing this?

>>>Kevin, did you get my PM? I for one would not accept this at all. Yes you are loosing out. How can you live with a system that is not running at it's full potential is beyond me, the money and time spent etc...
You deserve better, you deserve a fully functional system. RMA your board and CPU both and insist they were verified by a qualified technician and are defective (i will provide you with the certified techs name), you want new!!!

Half measures avail us nothing!

PS: Your grasping at straws brother.

Mike :)

Wes Hetrick Mar 03, 2005, 05:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
It was probalby just a typo on his part, but just in case he had a brain fade and was really trying to install an AGP card I thought I would mention it.

I also wanted to add to the FAQ that Maxtor Diamond Max 9 SATA drives will not work on the Asus SATA ports. I had to go to Best Buy and bought a Diamond Max 10 and it works perfectly.

I worked through your tweaking guide today Mike, and somehow lost 2000 points in 3dmark 03 and about 1000 in 05, I need to go back to baseline setups and benchamark again to see if I get my scores back or if there is some other problem I am having. I ran into one issue where it wouldn let me set the 2D clock rate the same as the 3D rate, they werent even on the same scale I dont think. Stock was like 500/1000 3D and 300/1000 for 2D. Ntune gave me 585/1170 that I dropped to 575/1160, but if I tried to use 575 in the 2D settings it wouldnt do it and it was almost off the scale to go that high since it starts at 300. I am using Sanders settings for the BIOS.

My System

Asus A8N-SLI Ultra
3000+ 939 Athlon 64
1 gig (2x512) Corsair value ram dual channel
MSI Geforce 6600GT Video Card
Maxtor Diamond Max 10 200 Gig SATA hard drive

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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Wes

I worked through your tweaking guide today Mike, and somehow lost 2000 points in 3dmark 03 and about 1000 in 05, I need to go back to baseline setups and benchamark again to see if I get my scores back or if there is some other problem I am having. I ran into one issue where it wouldn let me set the 2D clock rate the same as the 3D rate, they werent even on the same scale I dont think. Stock was like 500/1000 3D and 300/1000 for 2D. Ntune gave me 585/1170 that I dropped to 575/1160, but if I tried to use 575 in the 2D settings it wouldnt do it and it was almost off the scale to go that high since it starts at 300. I am using Sanders settings for the BIOS.


>>>I would definitely go through it again as you would be the first out of 50 to mention a drop in performance.
I will be more than glad to walk you through this in MSN Messenger as you can send me pics as we go along. mikethellend@hotmail.com. Something is not right, I will find the problem step/settings.

it was almost off the scale to go that high since it starts at 300
>>>Just increase frequency in 2D by the same amount as 3D. EX 300-325 500-525

PS: If your up for the MSN thing just request to be a contact, and we will meet.

Mike :)

Simon Lu Mar 03, 2005, 06:30pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dave Ballantyne
how is the new BIOS running? any BOSDs?
Lu

MJ Elliott Mar 03, 2005, 07:20pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Sander,

Thank you sir for a great FAQ. I personally have found lilttle trouble with this motherboard and have been running it for about a month, with literally, no problems. My Specs:

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Koolance PC3-720SL (Watercooled Case)
Enermax CoolerGiant EG651AX-VH 550W PS
AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 (939)
2GB Corsair TwinX PC4400CP25 (Running at 2t DDR400 2.5-4-4-8. I'll probably dump a gig for a performance boost)
XFX Geforce Ultra PCIe (Single)
2x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 160GBs in Raid 0 off Sil. Raid Controller
1x Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 SATA 120 GB SATA 1.5Gb/s 7200 RPM (Sil)
Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS
D-Link DWL-G520 Wireless PCI Card
Creative Gigaworks S750 THX 7.1 Surround Sound System 700Watts

I built this system at about the beginning of Feb. I empathize with everyone who has had troubles, but this is literally one of the most STABLE systems' I have ever built. I find this extrememly strange, given the amount of trouble others are having. I went a week before having even a Windows XP error. (And it was a iexplorer.exe not responding error, and not a big deal) But overall, rock solid, running Prime95, 3dMark05 and 03 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=574080 and http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8423758

This system, while not mind blowing, is solid and fast.

Now, I just received my second XFX Geforce 6800 Ultra and indeed, my PSU was not cutting it. So I ordered this: ENERMAX Noisetaker 600W Power Supply, ATX 12V V2.0 compatible, Model "EG701AX-VE SFMA 2.0 SLI" http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=17-1...amp;depa=0

Now I know you have listed PSU's that work, but I took a cue from Falcon Northwest and Voodoo PC, both of which us the above PSU for their high-end SLI PC's. As everyone knows, especially with Falcon NW, they are ROCK SOLID machines. I was just curious if you have gotten your hands on that PSU and tried it. For me, I figured if Falcon NW uses, I most certainly can use it.

I'll be getting my PSU tomorrow and post my results (Stability, Performance, Heat).

Your thoughts sir?

Lancer VI

Peter Wong Mar 03, 2005, 07:37pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 04, 2005, 03:34am EST

 
>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
EDITED:

Hi guys,

I just purchased a Tagan 480W power supply thinking that there was only one model and it was the Tagan TG480-U01, after looking at it again after buying I then found out that it was actually the Tagan TG480-W01 model which has DUAL 12v rail at 20amps each.

This is the only model available in Australia. After looking at Tagan website, this product is not even available. Could someone please inform me whether this Power Supply would perform well with A8N-SLI Deluxe. Any downsides to the dual rail?

Hopefully someone can help soon cause I need to decide whether to go for an antec or stick with this one. Could someone also confirm if the Antec TruePower 550W is only a 20pin not a 24pin?

Thanks


Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd Athlon64 3200+
Corsair TwinX 1024 3200XL
Asus EN600GT (Single Only)
At the moment, Tagan TG480-W01 (Note W Model, DUAL 12V rail @ 20amp each)

Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
Amd Athlon64 3200+ (Standard Supplied CPU Fan atm)
Asus EN6600GT (Single Only)
Corsair 1024 TwinX 3200XL
Tagan 600W Power Supply (TG6068-W01)
Seagate Barracuda ATA 80gb (ST380021A)
Seagate U8 17.2gb (ST317221A)
LG 16x DVD-Burner
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>> Re: Asus A8N-SLI FAQ
Mike,
I'm using an msi 6600gt. I currently have it clocked at 575-1.17, 2d and 3d. The auto-overclock sets it to 602-1.21. I never thought twice about this until I read your reply to wes ( Just increase frequency in 2D by the same amount as 3D. EX 300-325 500-525).

The question I have is, I can't leave the 2d settings low because some things apparently use the 2d speeds. Like aquamark 03, at default speeds I get around 38000, but if I clock my 2d the same as the default 3d settings, 500-1000, it gets in the 50s. Is there a fix for this, and is it allright to run the card like this? I'm using the 1005 beta bios(which seems great), but have used the others since 1002. I'm currently running the 75.90 grafics card driver, but have used others as well.

Thanks.


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