I couldn't agree more. The only nice thing about Steam is the fact that it self updates and your always current supposedly. Only thing is everytime there's a game update it doesn't work right for a day. I myself could not log onto steam saturday night, My friend who lives 2 hours north of me was in our server playing all night. Earlier in the evening I had updated my router firmware, after completing this task I went online with no problems but as soon as I try to login to steam on either computer, Steam having trouble connecting to steam servers was the message I got. So seeing how I just updated my firmware and that my friend up the road was fragging away I figured the problem was mine. I even went on steam's website to check the forums for news or info. The forums were down ! The status page indicated everything was working fine 15 minutes prior. So I started fooling with my router and fowarding ports and triggering ports and I even got the port numbers for steam off steams website, nothing helped. It turns out according to the steam forums it was a network failure, which dissalowed some users from accessing their accounts while other played undisturbed!! They actually shut down the forums because they needed more bandwidth they say after they discovered the failure, I guess people like me that have been playing valve games online since 99 don't matter, so its not imortant if I can check the forums for current info I guess. The funny thing is that usually its a so called update that creates problems, this time there wasn't even an update ! The best part of all though is after I had satisfied myself that it wasn't my router or anything on my end I popped in my half-life 2 disc for some action since I haven't completed the single player game yet. Steam having trouble connecting to steam servers ! I couldn't even play the single player game on the discs that I bought and paid for because their network was down and that was the icing on the cake. This is just snother occassion that I along with others have pulled my hair out because of steam.
Simply and accuratley put STEAM SUCKS
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Yet another unhappy customer here. I thankfully only downloaded the demo, <so at least I'm not out of pocket> but even that is protected by steam!. ITS A DEMO!! the more people who copy it, the better their advertising!!
When I downloaded it, I thought.. Great game, and it works with my hardware at a playable rate too!! So one for the list of games to buy when I get the cash..
Then I spend a couple of days with it constantly asking to log on every time I started up the computer, which I found a bit annoying, so I decided to remove it with the included uninstall routine.. Worked a treat.. In fact it worked so well that I had to reinstall Windows and all my applications because it wouldn't start up again.
I admit I may not have disabled something or other, and it was possibly partly my fault for not checking that the steam program was removable before I installed it. Valve have been around for long enough to realise that people might actually want to remove their game and associated programs now and then. Surely they could make an uninstall routine that checks and disables all the startup registry entries etc... If Microsoft did this, there would be journalists screaming bloody murder in the computer press day and night.
Needless to say, Valve have definitly lost a sale here because of their anti piracy system, not because someone made a copy of the game and gave it to someone who didn't pay for it.
Just a thought here, but what happens if some time in the future, several games companies decide to do something similar to Steam? Can they guarantee that all the anti piracy services running in the background will not clash with each other? Or if the original company gets taken over, they will continue to offer the ability to run the games? DRM at it's best. Not to mention the phone bills of the people on dialup who have to pay for their internet connection by the minute.
I do use P2P, mostly for older abandware adventure games and the occasional missed episode of Lost or Enterprise, but I have tried out a few big games before buying them. With Half Life 2 tho I knew this was going to be a title that I was going to want so I didn't bother with downloading or previewing it.
I thought about using Steam to purchase it online but then I had heard about how long it was taking to download and all the other hassles with Steam so I went ahead and purchsed the game in the store. I thought about getting the DVD version as I like to use my DVD-Rom for games when ever possible but for the extra $30 they were charging I passed and got the CD instead. I figured a T-Shirt and hint book were not worth $30 to me anyway.
So I get home and go to install my new game from CD only to find that Steam still takes over and downloads the darn game anyway! So here I sit for the next hour waiting for my purchased game to download even tho it is sitting right here in front of me on CD! Finally it completes the download but then wants to authorize all my exisitng Valve games even tho they are already installed and working.
So, I dig out the boxes for my original Half Life, Counter Strike, Opposing Force, Blue Shift, and Team Fortress games and start entering key codes. It takes my HL key and CS key but apparently doesn't care about the Team Fortress and Opposing Force keys and won't accept by HL Blue Shift key. I decide try loading the games to be sure that they will now work and while HL, CSm TF, and OF all run fine Blue Shift will not.
I shut down Steam and reboot my system without it and now HL Blue Shift runs. OK, weird but I'll live with it. So far we have now spent close to three and a half hours to install my new Half Life 2 game, install the keys for my exisitng content, and download all the updates. Thank god I have a 5MB/sec cable download!
I still haven't played Half Life 2 yet so I reboot again and log on to Steam but it won't accept my password! I try entering my keycode again but it shows me as already registered. I try re-entering the key in several combinations and finally realize that for some reason my NumLock key is off and my Caps Locks key is on. Fixing that I am now able to log on. I proceed to load up Half Life 2 only to find that I need to wait for it to download the latest update for HL2! My god it just downloaded the stipid game, why does it need an update!
So, 15 minutes later I am finally playing Half Life 2. It is now 11:30PM and I purchased the game from Best Buy at about 3:30PM and not counting driving time or breaks for hair pulling and snacks I have spent 6 hours at my computer before I have played a single minute of the game.
In addition, I have found that because I purchsed the CD version in the store I don't get access to Half Life Source. If I had purchased the DVD version I would have but more importantly I find that if I had just bought the game online from Steam directly I would have gotten Half Life Source for the same price that I paid in the store for the CD version of Half Life 2 alone. So my attempt to buy the CD to avoid having to download the game through Steam was not only a wasted effort but it also cost me access to content. Also, because of Steam, my name is tied to the CD version and even if I were to choose to buy the DVD version I wouldn't be allowed to install it or the extras that come with it.
Mean while had I known ahead what I know now I would have purchsed the CD and then, unopened, bury it in the back of my closet and download the darn thing through P2P. Valve would have got thier fair share, my original half life content wouldn't have been affected, and Half Life 2 would have been ready to play after about a 15 minute install, which is as it should be.
I don't agree in using P2P to steal content but with Steam I definately find my moral position challenged.
an interesting , and unfortuneately , all too familiar story .
I am not sure about your assertions with content:
"In addition, I have found that because I purchsed the CD version in the store I don't get access to Half Life Source. If I had purchased the DVD version I would have but more importantly I find that if I had just bought the game online from Steam directly I would have gotten Half Life Source for the same price that I paid in the store for the CD version of Half Life 2 alone. So my attempt to buy the CD to avoid having to download the game through Steam was not only a wasted effort but it also cost me access to content. Also, because of Steam, my name is tied to the CD version and even if I were to choose to buy the DVD version I wouldn't be allowed to install it or the extras that come with it. "
But it is a very interesting thing to check into . If it is true then the NON-disclosure by valve about the nature of steam and how it works especially in light of the content / price / retail or internet in relation to being" locked into" content thresholds , certainly constitutes fraud
I bought the "HALF-LIFE 2 HOLIDAY 2006 COLLECTION" and installed it on my PC. (first experience with steam) I could care less about the fact that I'm out of pocket $44 I just want to get it the hell of my computer. I tried to use add/remove programs and initially it appeared as though it worked. However, the next time I rebooted there it was again like a bad nightmare I just can't seem to wake up from. Now I am going to have to set aside at least two hours this weekend so I can learn what I need to do get rid of this mistake once and for all.