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Michel Merlin Mar 29, 2005, 12:29pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Mar 29, 2005, 12:40pm EST

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Oxygen-Free Shoppers (HiFi Cables)
A reply to Dispelling audio myths, the cable lie ( ), by Sander Sassen

Finally someone dares it loud! Thanks Sander! I fully agree.

I am an engineer, I love music, I have handled it from my small childhood (I was the one rewinding the Gramophone in 1947 - eleven sides of those heavy 78rpm disks for Beethoven's Violin Cto!) to Electrophones to HiFi (1969: Kef Concord, Esart Amp and Tuner, Braun Disc plate) to now (changed everything unless the Concord I love. And of course, adapted cables and connections many times). I play Clarinet, and did sing.

And in (often) helping family mounting a HiFi system, I always was careful at choosing exactly as Sander said: conductance high enough (i.e. resistance low enough), thus 2x2.5mm2 good old regular copper cables almost ever sufficient; but take care of the good and carefully fastened connections, and not pass cables close to a parasite source. That's all!

When I see reviews touting Signal to Noise above 115dB, I wonder if those people ever figured what this meant... This means Signal is Noise x (10^11.5), i.e. about 316 billions: if a car even silently drives 4 streets away from your home, even with your double-windows closed, probably the noise of this polite car is high above a 316 billion-th of your signal! OTOH whatever Oxygen-Free cables you can buy, if you place them too close from a parasite source, that source doesn't know the money you put in your cables and will send those parasites anyway, so your wonderful cables will undoubtedly lead those parasites perfectly!

Just see the arguments pushed in the other thread, Re: Dispelling audio myths, the cable lie ( ): just mums' gossip, no engineer calculations. Sander posts little figures either, but at least he puts some (lengths and sections of copper), along with arguments that can be calculated, tested and tried.

So in this business, the most Oxygen-Free isn't the Copper, but the Shopper!

Paris, Tue 29 Mar 2005 19:29:40 +0200 edited 19:40:40

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John Warner Apr 17, 2005, 01:07pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Oxygen-Free Shoppers (HiFi Cables)
amen to budget cables!

Andy Parker Apr 17, 2005, 01:30pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Oxygen-Free Shoppers (HiFi Cables)
For insomniacs only


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