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Sander Sassen Apr 25, 2005, 06:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Alright, after some delay Intel shipped us a 3.2GHz (840) dual core processor and 955 chipset motherboard, before I let her go on a standard set of benchmarks that'll not do much for dual core, I'd like for you to tell me what you'd like to see. Keep in mind that we don't have time for elaborate testing schemes, as we're out to see if dual core can prove its worth on the desktop.

If you have any suggestions feel free to post them in the below thread, or email me directly at ssassen@hardwareanalysis.com.

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Rodney M Apr 25, 2005, 06:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
Regular stuff that most people use - like games, business programs and run the usual Futuremark bench tests. 32bit programs because the 64's are real common yet. Don't know what else you can use with multicores at the moment - the software has'nt caught up.

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Im with rodney and put it up against the vence core just for fun

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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
I would be interested in seeing some performance with multi-tasking and multi-threaded applications. Although 64-bit applications might not be common yet, it might be a good idea to throw in a couple tests, if that can also fit within your time frame. Dual core is new ground for me, so I am interested in seeing performance with applications as well as how it holds up as a server.

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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
I would like to see every day tasks and a few gaming benchmarks (HL2, Doom3 and FarCry).

Everyday tasks like:
How long does it take to compress/decompress a huge zip file
How long does it take to render a 5 minute movie with special effects in movie maker (or some other program)
How long does it take to encrypt a huge batch of files
And a few others that I am spaced out on.

Also, I would love to see AMD (single or dual core) vs. Intel dual core in those apps (or similar ones) in 64Bit.

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Rory Witham Apr 25, 2005, 08:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I came acorss some bench tests where they used linux 64 OS in the absence of the WIndows 64 OS, Because of this there are alot of difference bench marks, but I would like to see some all round tests on the system and board.
UBCD offers some DOS based Bench marks that cover all aspects of the system,
Everrest is good for Memory as well as sisoftware sandra ( which also runs@ 64 bit)
So with out a doubt the Sisoftware sandra 32 Bit and 64 Bit nech test may reveal more about the system than that of common 32Bit Gaming bench marks. But as there are equal or more important for people then,
Aquamark3, 3dmark04 and PCmark04, I think that 3dmark 05 is more beased on the graphics card performance than the rest of the hardware.

So that the system can be based on most users set up, could you test with a different set ups.

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Hells Angel Apr 25, 2005, 10:22am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
I want you to compare it to my system! When I get my system going fast again, I will be a beast!

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Bungle Apr 25, 2005, 01:53pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I would like to see some numbers on power usage, and heat.

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Brian Stewart Apr 25, 2005, 02:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
I'd like to see a picture of two baby ducks, or chickens.
POSSIBLY two puppies or kittens, but 'm gonna vote for the duclkings.

Seriously though, throw in a picture of two ducklings.
"Dual-Core Processors - Do Twice the Ducks Make Twice the Quack?"

http://www.sillyanimals.com/pics/birds/images/ducklings.jpg - not cute enough
http://dublin.mothersunion.ie/images/ducklings09701.gif - still not cute enough
http://www.strangezoo.com/images/content/15359.JPG - almost cute enough
http://www.strangezoo.com/images/content/103336.jpg - different shot
http://www.sandrak.nl/pictures/albums/Ducklings/images/afbeelding001.jpg - too bad there's three - crop?

http://www.austinskateboards.com/htm/ducklings.jpg cute but off topic - perhaps AMD kicking Intel's ass

http://www.sandrak.nl/pictures/albums/Ducklings/images/afbeelding014.jpg - I think we have a winner, regardless of the ducks in the background.


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Sander Sassen Apr 25, 2005, 02:51pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
What's the point of testing 64-bit? I doubt anybody buying these processors will run a 64-bit Linux OS on the desktop. Furthermore Intel is pushing these processors for the mainstream desktop segment so 32-bit Windows XP is what 99% of people will use, for now the 64-bit Windows XP is still beta. But do keep 'm suggestions coming.

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guru Shane Apr 25, 2005, 03:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
If you wanted to know the point, the point is that by the time that people buy a dual core desktop, the 64-bit OS will most likely be the one that is mainly used, if not a different 64-bit OS. If you want to argue that some will buy them now, those same people that will buy them now will most likely be the same ones that will be using the XP 64 OS now. They are both new. It just makes sense that, if people are in a hurry to buy the new dual technology without it being thoroughly tested, they will be very likely to be trying out EVERYTHING new in technology without it being thoroughly tested.

Rooin Apr 25, 2005, 03:35pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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MP3 encoding

DVD Shrink - Time to complete a ISO image file start-finish

3D Mark scores

Mpeg/Jpeg compression

OHH
heres a good one.
Converting Mpeg - DVD - Burning video captured with a Tuner card/or downloaded and then burn them to DVD format for viewing anywhere.

heres a silly one: install time for the SP2 downloadable pack. takes forever to uncompress an install that bugger even downloaded ><

if I think if more I will come back with them

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G. G. Apr 25, 2005, 03:47pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
Sanders,

All i ask is for a good well rounded mixture of things that we do in 32-bit on a machine that a normal person would do ( ie everything not just for one purpose). I would like to see the strong and weak points about about dual core. But i am sure that with the weak points, that would hopefully be worked out as time goes on. Because with the testing that you will be doing is like a baby just coming out of the wound.

But if you have time.... can you install the beta windows XP 64 to see a peek in what may be instore for us in the future. Or it may be the case that at this point both is not gonna mesh so well because of newness in form for both.

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Blue-

Concidering People still use Win98. I doubt people are going to jump the gun to get a Beta Win64b

The Dualcore is going to be pushed by intel, as if its the "latest an greatest got to have" thing. There not going to mention that the 2nd core will just sit there generate heat and twiddle its thumbs most of the time due to the lack of software support.
The general public does not pay attention to details like these. I know this because my mother is a clueless computer user. She asks me questions about commercials she see's on TV. shes one of the millions of PC users who think "Dell has it in a commercial it must be good" until I tell her "No" an then I have to try an explain why. >< My point is. People are going to see a new Processor, which, will boast about its ability to Support future 64bit stuff and be better then a single core chip, people are going to buy it. BUT Since 64b Windows is still beta its not going to be intalled and shipped on new PCs for some time to come. leaving the CPU running on a 32bit OS, running 32 bit applications = almost completely waisted money at this time.

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G. G. Apr 25, 2005, 04:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
Ryan.

Please dont be trying to start a flame war of Intel vs AMD here in this thread.... SANDER's thread. geeezzzzz


What you say about intel is pushing something new and "People are going to see a new Processor, which, will boast about its ability to Support future 64bit stuff and be better then a single core chip, people are going to buy it." is called marketing.... to sell products. And you say it will be a waste and probably time because Windows 64 beta and lack of supported software.

So....... how long have you had your AMD 64 +3200 now ????... are you running 64bit OS ??? How about 64bit apps????

Isnt AMD64 products 64bit capable? I thought thats the reason behind AMD64 product. AMD's major feature. Everyone rants on having 64bit capable processor is being gearing for the future. So how long has AMD64 line been out now... it been a longtime now.... So the ones that jump on it at the very beginning, is their time with the AMD64 a time wasted? hmmmmm

Yes AMD beat Intel to come out 64bit. Intel held off. Now that there is glimsp of availability 64bit os and more software Intel comes out with their EM64T. Intel comes out with dual core But.... AMD too has dual core in the line up too. I'll stop here..... geeezzzzz...

Sander only asked what we all would like to see in his testing of the Intel's Dual Core. Not why Intel is forcing it on you, me, or the Joe average.

one thing you got to remember about our parents.... Lots of them are before computers and they dont understand it any way. They did not grow up with it. My 1yr is starting to use the mouse and my 4yr is playing on the computer visiting childrens websites for games and learning activities. She can operate the mouse with the best of them. It funny to see grandma and her together on computer.

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Brian Stewart Apr 25, 2005, 05:10pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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nobody likes my duckies idea?

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G. G. Apr 25, 2005, 05:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Brian...

These ducks are a little too young to be roasting on a Prescott... i think they need to get a little older. yeahhhh..

lol ... Thanks brian..

Sorry for ducking your post. heheheh

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>> Re: Dual core benchmarking, we'd like your input
I mentioned 64 Bit OS as MS have a final type thing, out with a free upgrade on ALL XP pro installed in the last 18 Months, So i think that maybe people will take the upgrade option..

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/upgrade/default.mspx

This link is more to the point
https://microsoft.productorder.com/clientx64/default.aspx

As people will be moving to 64Bit I think that it would be a fair place to do so with the windows 64 OS as is. I also said about linux as it has been around in 64 Bit form for some time and may be better than the windows OS until it matures.


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guru Shane Apr 25, 2005, 05:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ryan, much of what you are saying is true. However, I think you need to read my post again. I have already explained it. I don't need to explain it again. You can debate about all the people that don't have a clue and be right all day long. If you apply what I said to people that do, you will find your answer.

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first of all:

G. G. If you read again I didnt mention one thing about AMD being better then intel. Im not starting a Flaming war or AMD vs Intel. I didnt even note AMD anywhere in my post other then the fact that my CPU is a AMD in my sig, which is in EVERY post I make, no matter the subject line.
and a FYI: I DID try Windows64 bit Edition on my AMD64, the downloadable Beta from microsoft awhile ago, it sucked. Minimal to no driver support at the time. Its pretty bad now, it was worse then.

Blue- What I said was in remark to your statement. I Quote: " It just makes sense that, if people are in a hurry to buy the new dual technology without it being thoroughly tested, they will be very likely to be trying out EVERYTHING new in technology without it being thoroughly tested." Yes people who DO know, you, me, Sander and the majority of the people who regularly post on this site know, that a Dualcore CPU, is only going to be beneficial on a 64bit OS running 64bit Software. Now, since, 64bit software is NOT the standard, the moron of the world, are going to be buying up these new PCs with this new chip in it, not knowing that its not going to give them anything over the PC they possibly have now, AT THIS TIME. The majority of idiots who purchase a PC, without knowing what is "good" or "bad" or just plain unneeded, will use whatever is put on it. Since that still remains to be WinXP, people will not go out and get a Win64 Beta, hell even the full version, once its released. People hear gigabytes and Megahertz, they dont know what it means. They just want what the company is going to tell them is "fast". This I know because I deal with these people each an everyday. But I want to say again. Yes you are correct, for the people who are educated about it a 64 bit testing would be nice, too see how much of a difference it will make, but to say that people are going to go out and get the new 64bit OS just because its new is doubtful.

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DOOM 3, Half-Life 2, Far Cry, War Craft 3, Quake, etc. Benchmarks.

And

Video/Audio Encoding w/ Compression.

And 64-Bit Windows, seing that it is comong out on April 29/2005 ;)

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