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Dave H Apr 30, 2005, 01:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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sup all,
i would usually play games with vertical sync on but i just brought ut2004 and get a higher fps with it off and find it generally runs better.
i also turned my refresh rate up from 60 to 85 herts(should i have done this)
i just wanna how other peepes with 9600's set there card settings at?

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OCGW Apr 30, 2005, 01:53am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
Hmmmm, I am gonna' try that

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GS059 Apr 30, 2005, 01:56am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
i have noticed that with out it, you get better fps, but with it lowers the were and tare on your vid card

Thermalfreak Apr 30, 2005, 01:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
v-sync just caps the frame rate to no higher than your refresh rate....if you dont experience splicing of the image thne turn v-sync off...it makes things run a bit smoother without it....only treason to turn it on would be to stop the frame rate causing images to mess up in some cases with esepcially fast movement

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OCGW Apr 30, 2005, 02:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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That makes sense, I have read that you only need v-sync when you are using your TV-out, & that it keeps your frame rates right for the TV, because it can't handle different frame rates

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Thermalfreak Apr 30, 2005, 04:15am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
yeh but also in games with lcds and crts as well...often in farcry my frame rate was messed such that moving too fast would splice teh screen in half....usually tvs suffer the worst but if the refresh rate and conditions are right it happens in normal gaming too....

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Supreet Virdi Apr 30, 2005, 07:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Personally i dont want to play any game with Vsync disabled... its like poor gameplay for me.

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Thermalfreak Apr 30, 2005, 08:07am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
Depends i usually keep it on but sometimes the game doesnt support it or it makes it a bit sluggish (some open gl games ive played dont need it dunno why :p)

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Plug & Play Apr 30, 2005, 08:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off

General rule of thumb is leave it on. Coz if your video cards refreshes faster then you monitor settings you are not getting any better results e.g: If your crt 17" monitor is set to 85hz (and it should be) and your card is getting 100fps it is not doinng anything for you as your monitor cant refresh faster then its settings. But some games dont support this. Other option is leave the application preferance.


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Dave H Apr 30, 2005, 04:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
why doesnt windows automaticly set the refresh rate as high as it can?
i cant beleive the difference in performance since i turned it up


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OCGW Apr 30, 2005, 06:32pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
I always set my monitor, & my gfx card to the same fps, I think only benchmarks want to run faster than you set it

So, in my situation, I plan on "experimenting"

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Chris M Apr 30, 2005, 08:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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"why doesnt windows automaticly set the refresh rate as high as it can?"

Some monitors can't handle high refresh rates. If a monitor reports that it can support 100Hz and in actuality it can't, then there will be damage to your equipment if Windows forces it to the max. Also, higher refresh rates means more heat, more hardware stress, etc.

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Dave H Apr 30, 2005, 08:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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"Also, higher refresh rates means more heat, more hardware stress, etc."

is this gonna damage my system having it on 85 herts?

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Edited: Apr 30, 2005, 09:01pm EDT

 
>> Re: vertical sync on or off
As long as 85Hz is a "native" refresh rate for your monitor, @ the resolution you have it set to NO, it won't

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Chris M May 01, 2005, 03:14am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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"is this gonna damage my system having it on 85 herts?"

No it's just as OCGW said. Sorry for the confusion.

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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
hey guys...can i ask something. im just played red alert 3 and set game the in max setting. the gameplay just better when its start. then when i move a lot of thing its get slower. so i turn off the v-sync and its better rather i turn it on.but the graphic just the same after turn it off. so wat da heck v-sync is all about???. i really dont understand...

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TamTheBam Jan 30, 2009, 07:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 30, 2009, 07:37am EST

 
>> Re: vertical sync on or off
I always use Vsync. No matter what.
I use Vsync purely to avoid "tearing" of the graphical display.
In other words, when I strafe left or right, part of the screen will tear and be out of sync
or lag behind. Picture a cube moving from left to right of the screen but with part of the
box torn, and that part of the box lagging a bit behind hit. That's tearing. I don't like it.
So Vysnc for me will always be on. A lot of MultiPlayer gamers swear by turning it off
as it gives you mouse lag, etc. But that depends on various factors such as a less
powerful GPU/CPU, etc or even just lag on the bandwith.

Some games I have played recently aren't affected by tearing whether the Vsync is
On or Off. Games like Crysis & Farcry have been good for this. So it's a bonus.



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Dublin_Gunner Jan 30, 2009, 08:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
This gives a pretty decent explanation, with some pics.

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html


TBH, I never turn it on, it makes little to no difference unless you're frame rate is ALWAYS above the refresh rate - if it drops below, you get a stutter rather than a screen tear. (as it throws away frames to bring the frame rate down to a fraction of the refresh rate, usually 50% or 33.3%)

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TamTheBam Jan 30, 2009, 09:00am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
DublinGunner said:
This gives a pretty decent explanation, with some pics.

http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html


TBH, I never turn it on, it makes little to no difference unless you're frame rate is ALWAYS above the refresh rate - if it drops below, you get a stutter rather than a screen tear. (as it throws away frames to bring the frame rate down to a fraction of the refresh rate, usually 50% or 33.3%)


Not entirely 100% true. Depends on the power of your GPU too.
All my current & new games (Bar Crysis & Farcry) are sitting at 55-60fps
with vsync on which's good enough for me.
Obviously vsync caps to 60fps max. Most of my games are above 60fps (without Vsync on)
anyways. So I can handle the pace of 50+fps in my games.

Just read some of that link Dubs. Interesting. Tearing on my 8800GTX will be no longer
these days since newer games will give me less than 60fps so having vsync on or off
will make no difference at all as the gpu can't work any faster than the monitor so
tearing will be non existant.



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Plug & Play Jan 30, 2009, 11:18am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off

I have noticed that most games have the option to turn it on/off I always have it on as I hate the tearing effect...and if I get stutter I turn it off.

60FPS is plenty for a FPS to run smooth thats why I leave it on as I unlike other that state they notice the difference between 100 and 200 FPS....fookin owl's eyes you would need..

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Michael C Jan 30, 2009, 11:19am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: vertical sync on or off
I don't use it, ever. I would rather get to used to the tearing.


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