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Matthew Whitehead May 23, 2005, 08:22pm EDT Report Abuse
Specs:
Hardware
ASUS A7V880 mobo
AMD XP 2800+ Barton 333
2 x PC2700 Kingston Value Ram 512 = 1gig
ATI 9800 pro 128mb card Catalyst newest drivers
1 x SATA WD 80 gig 7200 RPM
1 x IEDE WD 30 gig 7200 RPM
Rosewill 550w PS
Software
Win XP Pro w/SP2 = fully updated
Office 2k3
UT 2K4
Steam
HL2
COD
and a few other games

The problem is I am unable to utilize 8x agp without crashing my video drivers. Since I am at work I dont have the exact error. The screen will either go Black like its in sleep mode or the GPU recovery will close the program and return back to windows. After it returns back in windows all the ATI drivers are disabled until windows can be restarted again. The only solution I have found was to turn my agp down to 4x and the system works flawlessly. I bought the board for 8x agp bah. I am just posting this in case there are others who struggled with this problem. I searched through the motherboard post pages and only found other ASUS boards and not this one. I noticed someone mentioned that other ASUS boards with VIA chipsets crashed when using ATI cards. Even though I work on computers this is a new problem for me. At first i thought PS wasnt big enough so i upgraded from Antec True Power 350w ---- to a Rosewill 550w = didnt make a difference but provided SATA power cords and more 4-pin adapters. I can try the RAM being the problem but generally if the RAM is the problem the system would not work in 4x AGP either. The problem could be when I upgraded Win XP Pro to Win XP Pro w/sp2. After I get the errors windows places blame on the ATI drivers. I just want to fix this problem so I can play my games at 100% full graphics. Please if you can think of anything I am overlooking please reply thank you. I will be switching out the video card for another 8x agp soon to see if my card is defective.


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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 24, 2005, 01:38am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
skip the crap ram, turn off vpu recovery, and windows autorestart after crash, get some BGA Ramsinks, and a different heatsink for the VPU.

AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ (133x14= 1867MHz) (209x11= 2299MHz)
DFI LP NF2 Ultra-B (Hellfire 3EG Rev2)
Antec SX800, Neo HE 500, 4 Antec 8CM Fans
Thermalright SI-97 1 Antec Tricool 12CM Fan
CL SB XFi Xtreme Music
2x Barracuda HDs (250/400)
2x Samsung Write
Matthew Whitehead May 24, 2005, 10:46am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
I planned on purchasing Corsair ram and new HS for card the only problem is will this fix the current issues? I know it will definitely boost my lappy

Psychlone One May 24, 2005, 12:05pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
There is really no difference performance-wise from AGP4X and AGP8X, so you're not really missing anything.
I agree with the above post about the RAM...you need some good ram.

Matthew Whitehead May 24, 2005, 12:17pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
do the newest ATI drivers just conflict that bad with VIA chipsets? Built many of systems just never encountered this problem so I am still baffled to if its Hardware or Software issues.

Psychlone One May 24, 2005, 10:01pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
I have had 3 different VIA chipsets, all with ATI's, and never ran into that at all.
A7V
A7V8X
and now, A8V
Every one had either a 9800Pro, a 9800XT, or an X800XTPE on it, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
I'd suggest becoming a member over at Guru3d.com or Rage3d.com, because they have very knowledgeable people that deal with nothing but videocards.
Hope you get it sorted out!
Psychlone

Francis Bernier May 24, 2005, 10:40pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Hi Matthew,

you could try this fix http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/798/ and if you not comfortable with editing the registry you can download the reg file here http://forum.iamnotageek.com/t-69761.html

Fix Problem with Athlon Hanging AGP Programs (Windows 2000/XP) Popular
Windows may stop responding when you use an Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) program with an AMD Athlon processor. This is due to the memory allocated by the video adapter driver becoming corrupted.

I've been struggling with my pc with almost a year with the problems you got til i found that, it might not be your problem but you can try it it wont hurt. if you're not sure do a restore point before applying it.

Hope it helps

Matthew Whitehead May 25, 2005, 12:07am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
I remember editing registry for old Geforce cards in order to overclock them. LOL if nothing else I can always send in my ATI card still under warranty thank god for factory warranty. When I get home I will definitely check out for ATI registry fixs. Thank you so much to everyones help.

Simon Crisci May 25, 2005, 09:58pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Did that worked out sir?

Because I think I got the same problem.

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/44132/
thats my topic...

Im waiting that u test it out, cause I dont feel editing my reg key and f** it up.

Francis Bernier May 25, 2005, 10:09pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
hmmm,

Actually I've check the reg file and it isnt giving the right value for the registry entry, it should be 0xffffffff (4294967295 decimal) but inside the reg file its 0x00000000 (0 decimal), so i doubt it would work so if you want it you would have to create a reg file and put this in it:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
"LargePageMinimum"=dword:ffffffff


Simon Crisci May 25, 2005, 11:48pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
hmm, I dont think either its the reg key, because I got a AMD64 not a Athlon. And my videocard is a Radeon 9800pro.

I put the agp to 4x like u did and so far havent had the black screen...

Psychlone One May 25, 2005, 11:50pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Hey...just thought of something...
Try reinstalling the VIA Hyperion 4.56's, maybe DirectX9.0c too.
It seems that SmartGART being stuck at 4X is a chipset driver issue.
Failing that, maybe try Omega Drivers. They are ALL I use, as they are superior to the Catalyst in my opinion, with more options available, including overclocking, and a SmartGART tab.
You can find Omega's Drivers at: Omegadrivers.net
As I said, not only does he make the best pre-tweaked driver set out there, he's a real good guy and definately could help you out if you post over at Driverheaven.net (his chosen forum) in the Omega sticky thread under Radeon Catalyst Discussion in the Fourms.
I reallly hope you get this sorted out, as I know what it's like to have something like this drive you NUTS!
Psychlone

Simon Crisci May 26, 2005, 08:18pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Matthew Whitehead, I have the exact same prob with you , however here are my specs :
PROCESSOR : AMD ATHLON64 3500+ socket 929 2.2g
HARDDISK: 74gig RAPTOR 10000rpm
Standart keyboard+CD burner+floppy disk
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS AMD64 S939 A8V-DX 5PCI/1AGPslot
VIDEOCARD: ATI RADEON 9800 Pro 128
POWER SUPPLY : 550W ATX P4 ANTEC
RAM: CORSAIR 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 1 G TWIN
Windows XP

I didnt kenw it was a ATI drvier conflict until recently, but I had the blackscreen, anyway, now Iv setted on 4x and it doesnt crash... If you find the answer, please oh god please lemme know sir!



Koffie Junkie Jun 01, 2005, 06:41am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Hi guys,

This is not a Windows problem, neither has it got anything to do with the graphics drivers. I have this very same problem with the ASUS A7V880 board, under various linux distros using either XFree86 or X.org. I have tried six different video cards: PowerColor Radeon 7500 (yeah, I konw PowerColor is crap but it's fine for a workstation), Gainward GeForce2 GTS, AOpen GeForce mx440, ST-Labs GeForce MX4000, Gainward TNT2, and the brand new Gigabyte Radeon 9250 I bought when I though that, incredibly, all my other cards are failing.

I had this ver same problem with all the nVidia cards as well, except the GTS, which I think is only AGPx2 if I remember correctly. All the above hardware worked, and still works flawlessly in an old Gigabyte GA7ZXE board....

Sorry, but this board is the worst I've ever worked with in terms of reliability. It detects my CPU wrong (Thorougbhred AthlonXP 2400+ 2ghz - one year old) - gives it a 200mhz FSB. I have to use the overclocking features to push FSB up to 266. And that fails every couple of restarts. The bios 0009 is supposed to fix that, but it doesn't. Neither does the latest beta version. I've never had this much issues with even the cheapest and most nasty cheapo boards.

What's worse is that ASUS has not answered or even sent a "your mail is being addressed, please be patient"-type message to the support queries I logged. Nothing at all. It's like they simply don't care.

Please, everybody who has this board, make a list of everything that doesn't work as advertised, send it to ASUS and insist that they fix it. This is one of the most expensive Athlon boards around, it should work properly.

Matthew Whitehead Jun 01, 2005, 10:23am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Are you sure its not windows at all. When I upgraded from my Abit board and 1800XP I was using Win XP PRo without SP1 and Sp2. My system worked flawlessly at 8X agp. When I formatted HDD and Placed WIN XP Pro W/SP2 my problems became worse. I am tempted to get rid of SPCRAP and just use win xp pro with reg updates. SP2 has been the biggest headache for me. I work on computer systems mainly hardware some software I have realized SP2 has been the biggest culpret of system failures. This board is not the worse board by no means just we all have ideas to what the problem is but nothing is 100% sure.

Koffie Junkie Jun 02, 2005, 03:16am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
No the registry entries just turns off whatever features/functions cause the board to make trouble. If you swap the board out and the card and everything else works perfectly, like I've done, then I'd say beyond any doubt, the problem is the board.

Yes, SP2 breaks a lot of things, but SP2 applies only to WindowsXP, not to Windows 2000 Pro, not to linux, not to FreeBSD. And the graphics problems are evident accross the board.

On top of the that, the BIOS issues - misdetecting CPU, losing settings, ect - has got nothing to do with the operating system, because the operating system is not even loaded at that time.

Arjen Langebaerd Jun 13, 2005, 08:47am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Have the same problems. Also have an a7v880 & radeon 9800 pro. Every time i start up anything 3d the system hangs in 1-3 seconds (both in windows xp & linux). Also have an fx5200 and everything works flawlessly with that. Tested the radeon in another system; no problems there either. Tried fiddling with just about every bios setting, nothing seems to work. Definitely looks like there is some serious hardware incompatibility problem with the radeon and this mobo.

SAteve West Jun 29, 2005, 01:01pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
I bought an Xpertvision Radeon 9550 256MB card a couple of days ago. I used the express install that came on the CD, the hardware installation for the 9550 and secondary (whatever that is) came up and I reset the computer. The desktop screen always went black after that, I tried the card on another computer and it worked fine. I put the card back in, turned the overclocking to standard, all the AGP settings to minimum or off, finally no blank screen after that. I cancelled the hardware installation this time, put in the CD and installed all the programs individually from their folders on the CD. Reset, didn't cancel hardware installation, reset again, card has been working fine since then. I've bumped up the AGP settings to normal, however I tried turning the "asynchronous AGP frequency" on (thought it might allow me to overclock the CPU without overclocking the card as well) and there were big time problems. Turning it off solved these.
I'm currently trying to figure out how to overclock the CPU alone as I got artifacts on Sims 2 on my old card when I used the automatic overclocking settings (which I suspect overclock the whole lot).

For the record my board is an Asus A7V880 and I'm running Windows 2000 service pack 4.

chip zilla Jul 02, 2005, 11:02am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
I had the same problem and at first I just ran at AGP4x to solve it.

After reading this topic I added the proper registry entry and now my board works at AGP 8x withouth error.

Jason Scharfencamp Jul 17, 2005, 05:54pm EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Will this work with pentium 4 also? because I was having the same problem Asus Mobo ati radeon 9800 pro... I am testing the fix at the moment but has anyone else tried it?

Der Mofo Jul 20, 2005, 05:04am EDT Report Abuse
>> Re: ASUS A7V880 ATI 9800 Pro 128mb = ATI drivers crash!!!!!
Hi guys, I've got the EXact same problem with my AIW 9800 pro, and once I put it to 4x everything is OK. Even with the omega drivers it crashes at 8x. I have a 2.5 p4 with a MSI mobo and a SIS chipset (so it's not specific to VIA chipsets). Every driver version I've used is the same, maybe there's some updated or tweaked/hacked bios flash for the card? And does anyone know if the reg fix will work for a p4? Thanks.


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