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Mothow May 25, 2005, 04:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 25, 2005, 04:03pm EDT

 
>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
sven
If you have PC 4000 which is DDR 500 or 250 fsb.That would give you 2.750ghz = 250 x 11.Its your multi x the FSB.that will give you your GHZ. Now throw in the ram divider's and you will really get confused..lol But its simple once it clicks for you .

I think this is what you were asking.

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PCGEEK May 25, 2005, 06:26pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
to figure memory its FSB x 2 if useing default 1.1 ratio. so in your case 200x2. My board has it listed as ddr 400 in bios already to make it easy .

To figure HTT for thows who dont know. HTT is directly related to bandwidth of your memory and cache.

HTT ratio x FSB x 2 = HTT speed.

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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
is the HTT ratio the 5x, 4x, 3x option?

if so, then mine is currently at Auto x Auto x 2 = god knows what,

but cpu-z says it 2.311 so thats good enough for me ;)

when i switch the HTT the comp will not boot and when i specify the fsb to ddr400 the comp is noticably slower (mainly in loading my album lists from wmp). Why wont it let ME overclock it??!?!?!?!!?

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PCGEEK May 25, 2005, 07:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 25, 2005, 07:28pm EDT

 
>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
HTT default is 5x. so FSBx5x2= your HTT speeds.

Do not ever under clock your HTT it needs to be 2 GHz to 2.2 GHz all the time. try to never go under that or you loose performance.

Sounds like yours is on auto so 5x your fine.

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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
in cpu-z it says the HTT is 200 or 210 when it runs at 2.311GHz so im assuming that the HTT shown in CPU-z is really the FSB. i think i get it

But my ram is terrible: 2.5, 4, 4 @ 2T.........i dont know much but i know thats bad. Any suggestions?

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PCGEEK May 25, 2005, 07:50pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
will it let you tighten up the memory timings ? Have you tried ?

Jason Jimenez May 25, 2005, 08:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
Yes, both the CPU and RAM are governed by the FSB (or by HyperTransport in the case of an A64), but they can have seperate multipliers, so your RAM frequency doesn't necessarily dictate your CPU's clock speed. Say I have RAM running at twice the bus frequency as my CPU...then it'd have a ratio of 2:1, so that you're not accidentally overclocking your CPU or vice-versa.

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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
hes runing default bro 1.1 . we covered that already .

Rory Witham May 25, 2005, 09:03pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
Hey I read bits of both,,, I really dont get it..
The HTT is the internal and the FSB internal to external, then there is the dividers...

Granted buying £100 stick isnt much good as you have to lower the HTT, but let me just say this..
I have OCZ premier and a set of curcial balistix.. OCZ- DDR400 CB- DDR500. I get better performance from the OCZ. I have then both set at the same divered and the CB is set running a 5X HTT.

I dont get this post and the info. Im tired which maybe why I dont?

The best you can do is 9000MB/s to match the processor but ram dont go that fast anyway.


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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
you kinda lost me. can you exsplane ?

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>> Re: Bursting the Athlon 64 Memory bandwidth bubble
if you noticed... they did not do a 250 fsb comparing 2.5-3-3-7 with 2-2-2-6

@200 the diff was pronounced... and this "extreme ram" i'm using is ddr500 @2-2-2 @3.3v

2-2-2 timings makes an improvement over 2.5-3-3 any day(its in the article...)

and besides... i got my OCZ PC4000 Gold VX RAM (2x512) for $60 LESS than my corsair PC3200 XMS pro 2-2-2-5 RAM (monarch computer had em on sale last week for $200, maybe this week too?)

so apparently they didn't take all into consideration....

methinks they DID "play" the tests to prove THEIR point... but they proved MINE too...

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