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Gamerz May 30, 2005, 04:45am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Despite having to buy a master card, I think ATi's solution (If the chipset is any good) will be better. You can buy the latest £400 card when it comes out, and still use it with the next £400 card.

I don't like the sound of that external dongle though.

To be honest, SLi will work with a pair of 6600GTs, but why wouldn't you just buy a single 6800GT and be able to put another in in the future.


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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 30, 2005, 05:44am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
oops, back to the drawing boards

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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
the one and only rant against ati i think can be made by anyone: the master card, otherwise its just as bad or as good as SLI

mastercard: hey at least you dont need to backtrack and try and find the same geforce 6 you got last time...
mastercard: expensive? harder to get? annoying?

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Thermalfreak May 30, 2005, 10:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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heh 'nuff said

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Plug & Play May 30, 2005, 11:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?

If ATI get the Multi VPU working without conflict It will be a great idea, Can you put an ATI card and a nVidia card in together. I highly doubt it. So ATI are cornering the market the sneaky buggers.

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varun rao May 30, 2005, 03:13pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
hehe this is EXACTLY what I've been saying all along.. ATI's solution is NO better than Nvidias.... its all the freaking same... sames**t different name.
IF .. IF ATI's solution is graphically superior in perfomance.. I'll give them props... else they are in the same boat as Nvidia...

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Harrison Someone May 31, 2005, 04:35am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
well actually an external dongle has more capabilites than the Nvidia's SLI bridge has.

I must admit, a $500 mastercard + normal card would be expensive. But think of this when making one

I believe someone mentioned that there are 2 mastercards atm, and the other one is much much cheaper than $500.

We really can't say much about this new tech until it is tested under FAIR grounds with the SLI cards. When I say FAIR, I mean that the card doesn't have any problems and the SLI cards / ATI cards aren't overclocked for the score.

ATI=normal PSU + mastercard + normal card
Nvidia=Higher end PSU + 2x identical graphics cards + higher electric bills (if you really want to include that) + known compatibilty issues.

jake May 31, 2005, 05:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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harrison why do you say that an external dongle has more capabilites than nvidias sli bridge? i would have thought that its basiclly the same because it just a cable connecting the two cards,

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Poseidon May 31, 2005, 08:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
ATI's solution is faster than NVidia's SLI by far, so I think this is well worth the upgrade.

P.S. Even though I work for Intel, I think the Athlon 64's & Opterons RULE all the way.

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Harrison Someone Jun 01, 2005, 10:32am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
Well, they are the same in the sense that they connect two cards together, however, the external dongle should run faster than the SLI bridge.

jake Jun 01, 2005, 11:22am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
why should the external dongle run faster than the internal sli bridge?

i'm not sure if i'm being stupid her or not but as far as i can if nvidia updated the software they could also improve SLI.

personally i prefere internel connections because its easier to setup and cant get knocked out at the back

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Harrison Someone Jun 01, 2005, 01:09pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
Well, sure. Maybe if Nvidia updated their drivers and bios for their SLI products, they might be able to bump up the speed of the SLI bridge. The point I'm trying to make is that the external dongle has more speed capabilites than the SLI bridge.

Supreet Virdi Jun 01, 2005, 01:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
I am with Harris....external dongle is better...atleast it "doesnt" run hot also !

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OCGW Jun 01, 2005, 01:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
Connecting the gfx cards on the exterior of the case is just plain "tacky"

Like those front panel connectors that loop the wire out a pci slot

IMHO

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Gamerz Jun 01, 2005, 01:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have heard people debating whether ATi cards will work in XF on an SLi motherboard. ATi will probably provide driver support after a while, once they realise that nForce4 is better than their ULi fixed version. So the only problem is nVIDIA. Now surely someone will simply take the nVIDIA drivers and mod them to allow it, simple.

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jake Jun 01, 2005, 02:46pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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harris i understand the point your making, but i what i dont understand is what your basing this on,

so why should the external dongle have "more speed capabilites than the SLI bridge."?

i've had experiance with looping a vga cable from the graphics card to a hollywood plus mpeg 2 decoder and it doesnt work as well as having a digital communications link between the cards, at least then the work load could be divided between the cards by the cards which would then free up more time for the rest of the computer system to work on other processes and not having to decide on a frame by frame basis what parrts of the screen should go to which graphics card

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OCGW Jun 01, 2005, 03:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The quickest route is the shortest route, no way a loop of wire is faster than a significantly shorter path on a pcb

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jake Jun 01, 2005, 04:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
what it comes down to is the hardware and software which makes the system works and unless someone here works for both ATI and Nvidia and is willing to give an equal comparasion between the 2 technologies i dont think any one is in a position to say thats ATI's tech is better than Nvidias tech until they've put them both though some tests.

when it comes to path difference it doesnt make that much difference in 'speed' whether its an external dongle or an internal bridge because the signal propergates though the wires at the speed of light so an extra 10cm to the path will not noticably delay the signal

I just hate it when you get people like Harris who have read the pr from ati and are convinced that it is 'better' without thinking about how it is to be implemented

imho ati's multi-gpu protocol looks better than nvidias but i still would have preferred an internal link

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Supreet Virdi Jun 01, 2005, 05:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: ATIís MultiVPU solution, donít get caught in the crossfire?
Do you know...how "HOT" SLI bridge gets?

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mothow Jun 01, 2005, 05:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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OCGW i like that tell em buddy

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