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mike hump Jan 28, 2003, 03:31pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a new Giga-Byte GA-8INXP (E7205) M/B with a periodic freezing problem.

I dont notice it with DVDs, etc, but i do notice it with the mouse, and in games...roughly every few minutes (not at exact regular intervals however) it'll freeze/pause for about 1/2 a second - the hard disk will rattle/light up and the mouse will stop moving. It instantly goes away after a fraction of a second but the feeling of having the mouse "yanked out of my hand" is starting to drive me nuts.

I've got my single 60 GB ATA133 Maxtor on the Promise controller (ATA 3) rather than ATA 1 (which is only ATA100) - i'm suspecting this might be the issue and moving it to the slower ATA 1 or 2 might help. Haven't tried yet. I reminds me of mouse-freezes i used to get when i worked on SCSI systems (and the Promise appears as a SCSI controller to Win2k) - i think that might have been a hot-plug auto-detect sniff thing. Don't know for sure.

Mouse is a Logitech - i've used both a wireless optical and a optical with a tail on it..also have used Windows 2000's built in mouse drivers as well as Logitech's Mouseware, no change. It's plugged into the PS2 mouse connector for now - i have yet to try it on the USB. But as i see the hard disk light up whenever this happens, i'm assuming the problem is sourced there, not with the mouse.

I've tried shutting down every non-essential app and service so it's not something like that...also, i wouldn't expect an application no matter how busy it is, to steal away the mouse movement as that's on an interrupt.

No obvious sharing of interrupts that might explain this conflict either.

Ideas anyone?



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ben wilson Jan 28, 2003, 09:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
i've used a microsoft mouse for years. never had any problems and never had to install drivers. its an optical mouse. If you decide the problem is with your mouse and not your harddrive or mobo i'd recommend this one:)

mike hump Jan 29, 2003, 10:00am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I fixed it last night.

First tried taking my Pioneer DVD-RW off the IDE 1 bus...just to make sure that wasn't part of it. Didn't help, so put it back.

Then, i moved my boot drive (Maxtor 60GB ATA133) to IDE 2 from IDE 3 (where it was on a faster Promise RAID/ATA133 controller) and the pausing/freezing went away completely. It's now without a doubt the slickest running system I've ever worked on.

I was having serious issues before whenever there was disk access - sound would get choppy, all kinds of bad things. The first few seconds of MP3s would be chopped up..stuff like that. Now it's working perfectly.

It may not be a problem with the Promise RAID, i may have just had it configured wrong - I haven't even gone into it's BIOS setup yet (the Promise that is, the motherboards BIOS i have been in, it only has 2 settings, whetehr you want the controller on/off and if it should be a "RAID" or "BASE" (basic????) - I was set to "BASE"

For now i don't need it so i'll pursue tweaking that controller when I run out of space on IDE 1 and 2 - maybe there'll be some new BIOS to flash by then anyway.

dead pedestrian Mar 12, 2003, 08:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I have been experiencing the same problem. It seems that the the processor and graphics do not freeze. Only the current state of the mouse and keyboard are frozen. It is not only the mouse for me. It is more than anoying. For me it happens a bit more often than every minute or so. It's more like every 30 seconds or less ranging up to 3 to 10 minutes. It's quite random. I have updated everything I can get my hands on. I have every inclination to beleive that the motherboard chipset drivers are bad. I'll be posting to their forums as soon as I can.

mike hump Mar 13, 2003, 09:27am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
Same motherboard as me?

Moving the boot drive off the Promise ATA 133 controller onto the ATA 100 controller fixed my mouse freeze. (I run a 2nd drive off the Promise now, no problem...only had the problem when it hosted the system drive)

Disabling the onboard gigabit ethernet controller also helped me with some USB latency problems I was having (i do real time music so i noticed this...most people wouldn't). It runs like a dream now. I just put in an old 100 mbit card i had lying around and am using that until (hopefully) a BIOS update addresses this.

Hope that helps.


dead pedestrian Mar 13, 2003, 05:11pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hmm, I'll try that. Yeah same board though. It is really anoying.

Richard Roy Mar 24, 2003, 10:28pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I had the same problem. After reinstalling, changing audio hardware, reapplying patches, pulling hair out of my head, and generally being grouchy... I found the solution.

The raid driver shipped with the 8inxp motherboard is faulty. Download the new one. It will then ask if you want to overwrite the newer ultra.sys driver... YES!!! Everything will then be peachy...


Joop Prive Apr 26, 2003, 12:04pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I just found out that in my case (Asus a7v + promise Ultra100) the problem was solved by using older promise drivers (1.60 b33) instead of the newest. My problem was a lag (in mouse movement and video display) when accessing my hard drive.


seekwest seekwest Apr 28, 2003, 06:34am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I have the same problem with my GA-8INXP. Write Combining is disabled and the AGP speed is set to 4x @ my hercules radeon 9700.

the mouse freezes at the startup, by pulling the ps2 out and in the problem is solved, but there are still some strange system restarts while playing games or benchmarking.

i have installed the newest catalyst drivers and im using a WD800BB as Bootdrive @ IDE 1

mike hump Apr 28, 2003, 09:17am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
Thanks for the tip on the Promise RAID drivers...i'll look for new ones.

That controller has been working fine for me since i took the boot drive off it. It is supporting another drive that works just fine...only seem to get this freezing issue when it's the C: drive.

One other issue with that board that i mention in another thread is, I also had to disable the onboard gigabit ethernet controller to get my USB audio (i use an Edirol UA-5 for making music) to work smoothly. I disalked it in the BIOS and replaced it with a 100Mbit ethernet card and all's fine now. (Unless you're doing music or other realtime intensive applications, you probably wouldn't notice this problem.)

Once i made these two changes i haven't had a complaint about the board since. I have done one BIOS upgrade at this point as well - don't know if it fixed either of these issues as my setup is still the same.

Alan Secker Jun 02, 2003, 07:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I have two machines with this board, 2.53 PIVs, originally with 1 Gb of PC2100, now 256 Mb on dealers advice. Both constantly and erraticaly stalling, requiring reboots. I tried everything, until... Saturday, in desperation, I fdisked a boot drive and reinstalled Windows 98 SE. What I then did not do was install any drivers from the supplied disk! Surprise, surprise, total stability!.

This drive is currently running on an ATA/100 socket. I plan to clone it using Drive Copy before attempting to switch it to a Raid socket running as ATA.
Unless anyone has any bright ideas, I plan to install the AC97sound driver next. What I attempt next? Well I'll watch this space.

mike hump Jun 02, 2003, 10:36am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
Like i say above, suspect are the onboard gigabit ethernet driver, and the Promise RAID driver.

I fixed my mouse-freezes by moving the boot drive off the Promise.

I fixed some difficulty with low latency USB audio (using an Edirol UA5) by disabling the onboard ethernet. Most people wouldn't notice this problem however.

Good luck.

I use Win2000 by the way. Wouldn't Recommend 98 at this point.


patchara kerdsiri Oct 25, 2003, 10:43am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I have the no-boot problem too.
I'm in Thailand and I have to send my thesis on 30/10/03
but, my data is in Raid-0 HDD and I can't bring it back.
How can I do?

Marco Eybers Dec 11, 2003, 03:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 11, 2003, 03:54pm EST

 
>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
Oh man... i couldn't find anything regarding the same issue that i had... but apperantly im not the only on...

Turns out i have the kind of mother board but different model....(GA-7DX+) and i guess what i need to do is change some things.. can someone help me with selecting the best method.. because there seems to be a few...


thanks

-echo

Marco Eybers Dec 11, 2003, 03:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
Oh man... i couldn't find anything regarding the same issue that i had... but apperantly im not the only on...

esro mazrin Dec 12, 2003, 02:16am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
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esro mazrin Dec 12, 2003, 02:20am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
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mike hump Dec 12, 2003, 09:27am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
People, the topic of this thread is this particular motherboard. No point recommending others or advertising your website here.

It's my understanding that there is a BIOS upgrade for the Promise RAID controller, that should fix the mouse hiccups. It may not be available from Gigabyte however, you might have to get it from Promise.

Sorry, but i don't have any further info on this as i moved my 2 hard drives off the RAID and haven't had a reason yet to use it since. It might come up again someday and if i learn anything, i'll post it here.

I still have my stuck during reboot problems with that machine as well. It's been a while since i looked for a BIOS upgrade, i'll check again soon and see if they have anything new.

Craig Huck Dec 16, 2003, 02:37pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
I just got done rebuilting my system that has an 8INXP board in it and I ran into the same issue.

I have two 200GB ATA133 Maxtor drives but am not using the Promise RAID functions but rather the basic ATA133 functions. This system worked perfectly before I rebuilt it the other day so I new that it issue had to be driver related. I always download the latest drivers from the manufactures website and this time that was the problem. http://www.giga-byte.com has the 2.00.1020.41 drivers and http://www.gigabyte.com.tw has the 2.00.1020.32 drivers. I downloaded the x.41 drivers from the US site and that was the problem.

To fix this issue you don't need to move your drives to the ATA100 controller just use the x.32 drivers from the following link.

http://ftp.gigabyte.com.tw/support/d_other.htm#promise276

mike hump Dec 16, 2003, 02:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks!!! I will try that and let you know how it goes.

Pete GBR Dec 01, 2004, 04:42pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Giga-Byte GA-8INXP Periodic momentary mouse freezing (hiccups!)
May be related - I have a GA-7N400 Pro 2. Freezes on all my RPG's every 2.5 minutes for 8 seconds, the hard disk chugs and then it carries on till the next time. I've changed drivers, sound card and ethernet hardware. I shall try moving the disk. Im not using RAID.


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