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ben wilson Jan 29, 2003, 07:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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not like i want one,but when will this be availible to the public?


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Wyatt Hatfield Jan 30, 2003, 07:28pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
hell no. I bet anything The reason it is not performing as well as it should is because the drivers. This better be faster than you guys are testing because I expected a lot more. Hmm all well Im still not buying a ATI untill the worlds burns over No more for me. Very bad luck. Maybe its because U guys used an Intel CPU and/or it didnt like something you had on there. I dont believe the results. Not yet anyways too early for me.

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Wyatt Hatfield Jan 30, 2003, 07:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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ur guys's system sucked for the setup testing this with.

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Wyatt Hatfield Jan 30, 2003, 07:38pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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"If the Radeon 9700 Pro did not deliver a convincing victory on all fronts the R350 most certainly will, putting Nvidia in the back seat again." HOw can u say that>????? I mean you probably havent even seen the R350 and how do know for certain>???? I dont believe it until it comes out.

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Eclipsor Jan 30, 2003, 08:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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calm down man. :) I'm sure they tried to make the testing as fair as possible.

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ben wilson Jan 30, 2003, 08:36pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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lol, i just wanted to know what the release date was :( did'nt mean to start world war 3

Wyatt Hatfield Jan 30, 2003, 08:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Its cool Im calm I was just wondering. I just expected more out of nvidia. Im not start world war 3 thats what Bush is trying to do, not me. All well Im still getting one. when ever it comes out.

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Wyatt Hatfield Jan 30, 2003, 11:48pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I dont know if Im getting one now. Depends if Nvidia pulls their head out of their you know what I think they could make this happen. I still think they made a really stupid decision on choosing the 128bit memory instead 256bit. To me that is why they bit the dust so far. They have only one more month before release. Maybe the NV35 will have something bettter than 256bit I doubt it but you never know. Buying FX is Pending at the moment.

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Eclipsor Jan 31, 2003, 12:15am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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yeah, I must admit that I had expected much more from the first release fx. I only just heard of the fx just after spending a large amount of money on my radeon. I was kicking myself for a few days until I made myself content with the still awsome performance that it gave. The fx article did however make me feel sort of warm and fuzzy inside. lol. However I'm sure nvidia has got more than a few tricks up their sleave yet.

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Sander Sassen Jan 31, 2003, 06:55am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Wyatt,

Okay, I'll bite, if you don't 'buy into' our results do check Anand's results he's basically running the same set of tests, on a similar config, and he too draws the same conclusion.

On the other hand it's been awfully quiet at Nvidia, we usually get a call or an urgent email when we write something they don't agree with, since that hasn't happened I think it is safe to say that they know that the GeForce FX is lacking in the performance department.

But you know what, I'll meet you halfway, just tell me what setup you'd like us to test the GeForce FX with and I'll whip up a test system and rerun some of the tests. You can rest assured though that all our testing is done with the utmost care and attention to detail so as not to favor one card over another.

Kind regards,

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Eclipsor Jan 31, 2003, 07:10am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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nice one.

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Andy Parker Jan 31, 2003, 07:20am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Just to add my five kilotons worth - I think the GeForceFX isn't worth it. Nvidia have managed to create so much hype about this card it's unbelievable. All the results to date show a 10% improvement over the 9700 Pro. However, the fast clock speeds required to achieve this require more power (75W for the FX compared to 57W for the 9700), and thus generate more heat. Apparently, the cooler fitted sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Since more and more people want quieter computers, I can't see this going down too well.

If you want to read a review of the card, have a look at http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030127/index.html


Andy

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Sander Sassen Jan 31, 2003, 08:44am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Andy,

No need to go to Tom's Hardware, we have a review right here, on Hardware Analysis, waiting to be read:

GeForce FX, just special FX?
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1585/

Kind regards,

Sander Sassen
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Wyatt Hatfield Jan 31, 2003, 03:40pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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mmm all well Yes I believe u. Just wouldnt thought This would happen BUt NV35 maybe make up for this retarded choice my nvidia. heh all well I will just wait and see. I think i over reacted. You never know what will happen.

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Andy Parker Jan 31, 2003, 05:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Sander,

Sorry about that. I hadn't seen the latest review you'd done, only the short couple of paragraphs on Wednesday. Anyhow, I thought THG provided more evidence to support your argument.

Question. Which would you buy, based on what you know now?


Andy

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Sander Sassen Jan 31, 2003, 05:13pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Andy,

If I needed a top-of-the-line 3D graphics card today I'd buy a Radeon 9700 Pro, if I could wait another two months I'd opt for the R350 from ATi, provided that's out by then. If I got another six months I'd probably count on Nvidia to have an answer to the R300 (9700 Pro) and R350 from ATi ready and I'd see how well that stacks up.

Either case a Radeon 9700 Pro or the upcoming R350 look to be the best choice in the next four to six months. There's no way that Nvidia can brush up on the FX' performance by more than 10..20%, which won't be enough to truely beat the 9700 Pro, let alone it's successor, the R350.

Have a good weekend,

Sander Sassen
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Wyatt Hatfield Jan 31, 2003, 08:58pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
I wouldnt say that if I were you just yet.

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kim washington Feb 01, 2003, 01:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Sander Sassen

Have good question to ask you,
Maybe the benchmark was done wrong. Maybe beta drivers issues of Fx ultra and ATi R9700 pro tune drivers should'nt be done. I myself start looking for a web-site that use brilliant sense of an sensible benchmark. A benckmark that compare GeForce beta driver against Ati RADEON™ 9700 PRO (old)beta driver.

So off I went to look for this magic combination of beta drivers Benchmarks. But unfortunately no such luck came about so maybe Sander Sassen mght be willing of a beta test of this sort. If nox or has seen a site that meet this requirement please paste that sucker on here and let's the debates begin.

Intill then it really a dead issues compare (Nv00d00 and ATi r9700 pro fine tune)drivers right now.



Sander Sassen Feb 01, 2003, 01:51pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
Kim,

I believe you're not thinking things through here, the GeForce FX has been delayed by 6-months, thus Nvidia has had 6-months longer to perfect their drivers, so you can be assured there's not beta vs. pro drivers comparison here that's holding the GeForce FX back.

Furthermore Nvidia has been making performance claims of 40% over the Radeon 9700 Pro at launch, not a few months down the road, so if anybody you should be talking to Nvidia for hyping the performance of the GeForce FX beyond what it is factually able to deliver.

Have a good weekend,

Sander Sassen
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Wyatt Hatfield Feb 01, 2003, 02:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I wish i could say something to nvidia. but they either wouldnt listen or never get it. They need to be slapped by now to wake up. all well. Good day.

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Eclipsor Feb 02, 2003, 07:27am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: GeForce FX, 3D graphics and more
the monthly poll is getting interesting. The fx started off like 4 or 5 % in front. now look at it. Wasted

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