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Sandor Cserr Jul 13, 2005, 08:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I just finished building a new computer for my brother. When I tried to boot the sucker up, it took almost 10 minutes to POST! The problem seems to be when my BIOS is scanning for my IDE hardware. I've looked in BIOS and I can't find any option to disable an IDE scan, so i'm out of ideas. After the thing finally does POST, everything runs quickly. Can anyone help?

Here's the machine specs:
AMD Athlon64 3000+
FIC K8-800T
1 Gig PC3200 DDR400
ATI Radeon 9800 128MB
MDT 120 Gig HDD IDE
Sony CD/RW/DVD-ROM 52x32x52x/16x
Generic 50x CD-ROM


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amdfreak22 Jul 13, 2005, 08:38pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Well something definitely isn't set right be it jumpers or something in the BIOS. Are there any weird beep patterns during the post? And you are 100% sure that the jumper settings, connections, and BIOS is setup correctly? What are the specs of this thing?

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amdfreak22 Jul 13, 2005, 08:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Also, I am sort of a newbie to all of this pre operating system stuff. But did you activate the quick post (or whatever its called) in the bios? I know that when you add or update hardware components too, you have to update the CMOS don't you? Or is that just on ancient computers?

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Merc Jul 13, 2005, 08:51pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Sandor-
You need to strip that board down to just CPU w/HSF, 1 stick of RAM (make sure it is in correct slot) and the video card, reset the CMOS/BIOS (see clear CMOS in manual) and reboot. If it is still POST'ing slow you may have a bad mobo, RAM or CPU. If it POST's normally then start adding accessories 1 item at a time till you find the culprit.

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Sandor Cserr Jul 13, 2005, 10:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
All settings and jumpers are correct...no weird beeping during POST...all connections are tight. I stripped the board down and started form scratch and still nothing. Still almost 10 minutes till POST, and always the delay happens when searching for IDE devices. Anymore suggestions?

amdfreak22 Jul 13, 2005, 10:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Do what Merc says, that is the surefire way to fix it.
If that doesn't work its the mobo.

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Sandor Cserr Jul 13, 2005, 11:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
alright, I narrowed the problem down. It's the HDD. When I had the settings before, the HDD was set as master without a slave. I changed that to cable select, and BAM! The machine posted super-quick! now, however, I have a new problem. I tried setting the system up so that I had IDE1: Master/Slave, and IDE2: Master. The system now posts, but the HDD isn't being picked up as IDE1 Master. I went back to the original setup, and it's STILL not being detected! I'm about to switch in a different HDD and see if that helps, but what say you? Am I looking at a bad HDD?

amdfreak22 Jul 13, 2005, 11:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
I might be wrong here. But if you have two HD, one should be master and one should be slave. None of this master/slave. Look up the HD brands/models. Type that and then jumper settings (or look in the manual) Set one as the master and one as the slave. THen get an IDE cable and attatch the master end to the one with the master jumper settings, the slave to the one with the slave jumper settings, and the mobo end to the mobo. It should recognize both.

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Sandor Cserr Jul 13, 2005, 11:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
alright, I tried the new drive and it still took 10 minutes to POST. I think that there's still something I'm not doing. Maybe the BIOS is scanning the HDD or something? Is there an option in BIOS that would allow me to skip the IDE checking?

Frank Williams Jul 09, 2009, 08:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
dude i have the exact same problem...I've dealt with it for quite awhile. I have one ide and one sata drive in my pc and it takes about 2 mins to detect the drives and then 4-5 mins at a blinking cursor and then once it boots everything is great. I'm going ot try the cable select instead of master. If it works thanks in advance

Liquid Shadow Jul 09, 2009, 09:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Dude this thread is 4 years old.



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Meats_Of_Evil Jul 10, 2009, 02:32am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Hope it helped him.

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PIRATE Jul 10, 2009, 04:34am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Ok, this is the IDE strip:

[1]========[2]===[3]



1: Motherboard connector

2: Slave connector

3: Master connector


Now, if you set a HDD to master and plug it in the wrong place, it causes conflict, especially in older eMachines (trust me, had a few).

Also, if you do cable select, make sure the optical drives are on the secondary strip as this can cause conflict too.

Enable ultra DMA mode in IDE primary options in your device manager. Solves most performance problems.

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Frank Williams Jul 15, 2009, 04:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Buddy was right. Cable select fixed it. I had one IDE and one sata and the post was taking forever. Someone suggested using cable select instead of master and it fixed the problem but then I was getting bootmgr is missing. After many repair attempts in vista with both drives in the problem persisted, but a co-worker suggested removing the sata drive and then running the repair on the ide (primary hd) and it worked. I reconnected the sata drive and now my system boots so fast I don't even see the post and both drives are working. Hope this helps someone I screwed with this pc for hours.

Groonx Jones Jul 19, 2009, 01:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 19, 2009, 01:19pm EDT

 
>> POST Times 3-7 Minutes
I realize this is an old thread, but some things never change. I built my present system last November, and (unfortunately, I think) I chose an mATX Gigabyte GA-MA78GMS2H ver 1.1, after reading Tom's Hardware praises. Never, ever, have I got my BIOS to work at reasonable speed.

I get my POST beep after 3 to 7 MINUTES. It varies. And although it IS A SINGLE beep, it "hiccups" or "stumbles" as Be-BEEP! or else P-be-BEEP! (But, definitely, it is NOT 2 beeps—just one, stumbling.) On Restarts, it always is one "perfect" beep, and Restarts always work normally and at proper speed.

There is a lot of RAM, and a lot of HDDs. All have been removed now and then for tests, as have the opticals.

CPU = Athlon 64 x 2 5600+
RAM = GSkill PC2-8000 DDR2-1000 (so the CPU reads this @ 800) 4 x 2 = 8GB
Drives, HDD = 3 SATA (500GB) + 1 PATA (320GB) set as Master on the only PATA cable
Drives, Floppy, 1, new, no problems in any tests
Drives, Optical = 1 PATA Sony/LiteOn DVD-RD - DISABLED for ongoing tests
Drives, Optical = 1 external USB DVD-RW
Drives, Optical = 1 SATA Pioneer DVD-RW

Video = ATI Radeon 4670
PSU = Corsair HX520W, rated fine for the load. I have Thermaltake's Dr. Power for testing.

Recently I tried removing the battery (all night!!) to clear the CMOS, and then immediately (next morning) flashing the BIOS to its newest F8 version (via Q-Flash, on a floppy I'd prepared in advance). With all my hardware stripped down and just one stick of RAM in it, the initial power on required HALF AN HOUR to POST, but it finally posted. The next cold boot was a much better 2:08 seconds to POST. (5:20 to totally-ready Windows XP x64.) Since then, replacing the RAM and hardware, I've apparently caused it to slow down to 6:42 minutes to POST (total 9:51 into totally-ready Windows, with all other events reporting stable—if slow—times).

I would like to know what my BIOS is doing during the minutes preceding the POST. The fans and all power indications seem perfect, but the system seems to just sit there breathing air for those minutes. You'd swear that is ALL it's doing, but then you hear that strange, be-BEEP! or P-de-BEEP! of a POST. As I said, it "always" stumbles or hiccups, but it is definitely just a single beep.

Thanks.

TWolfe Jul 19, 2009, 01:41pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Sounds like it's having trouble finding your boot drive. Strip it down to just your CPU & cooler, 1 stick of RAM and video card, main hard drive and see if that helps.

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Groonx Jones Jul 22, 2009, 12:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Thanks, TWolfe, but no. The boot drive is determined after the BIOS has run its POST. I am working with the startup procedures that precede everything to do with the Windows OS.


Tim Vasvi Jan 09, 2010, 07:30am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Very slow POST, plz help!
Because you are only having the slow boot from cold start and not during restart, I would check to see if it is testing the ram during POST. The fact you have 8GB in the system would take ages to scan.


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