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  Re: Is AMD finally starting to lose its marbles? Not really... 
 
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Thermalfreak Jul 21, 2005, 09:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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If you ask me i think that theres nothing wrong here....proof of unfair bussiness practices might cause a change ya know with peoples attitudes....

how can amd make a point such as to create greater demand, when intel does the same with an inferior product? there being hampered right there by intel....

DELL .....people dont even know about stuff like the fact AMD exists because INTEL and Dell act as if there the only two people in existance....

the consumer is pretty dumb you have to admit....anyone who knows the basics goes for amd....the problem? theres still average joe just buying intel/dell/whatever just because its the only thing there is as far as they know....the consumer doesnt get choice!

Joe goes to ee whats for sale and only finds intel....he compares intel to intel....dell with an intel to Dell with another intel....great so much for creating demand...dell says the consumer didnt want amd and Dell got a huge pile of letters saying theyre wrong....when you go intel land AMD is never mentioned and that you dont dicover them or *gasp* demand for an amd....

the fact that there is no staggering demand is because weve been taught under a church which has made sure we never hear the world evolution and never see what darwin has to offer....


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Rooin Jul 21, 2005, 01:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Is AMD finally starting to lose its marbles? Not really...
I think you reminded everyone of WHY AMD lacks in sales. If they did better marketing, people WOULD know their product is there. I bet if AMD put out one Commercial that simply tells people that their CPUs are faster or just as fast, an cost drasticly less, you would see people askin for them. People love CHEAP, no matter what it is. Thats why Celeron sells. Its CHEAP.

The average Joe doesnt know squat about PC's. For example, I'll use my mother, an other family members for example. They always ask me, ohhh I saw this Hell ad for a $399/499 doller computer, is that any good for the money you pay? I tell them straight out. You get what you pay for. You buy a $400 PC with a already $100-$200 CPU, your not gettins**t. I tell them expect the PC not to last, and or have constant complications.... Now, if people saw how much money they could save with AMD processors, they could pay a similar price, an hopefully get better components.

I agree with Sander on this one. If AMD stepped up its marketing, they are bound to get a foot in the door. But until they do that, they really shouldnt be chasing things like this that are not going to really help them in the end. Their just barking up the wrong tree at this point in time.

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Paul Kloek Jul 21, 2005, 01:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Is AMD finally starting to lose its marbles? Not really...
Perhaps all this lawsuit nonsense is a kind of free publicity for AMD. This way they can get their name into the headlines. Since intel getting sued is big news, people will read the articles and say "Hey, whats with this AMD company that supposedly has a better product?" and then they will go check it out. Maybe this is what AMD has been waiting for...

-Paul

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Thermalfreak Jul 21, 2005, 01:56pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Is AMD finally starting to lose its marbles? Not really...
Well thanks for agreeing for the most part but....

how does AMD advertise and market itself when its already advertising where it can and is trying as hard as possible to get OEMs to build computers with them?

Intel ploughs in vasts amounts of money to advertise...more than amd could ever muster....but even more so money to stop amd from ever catching on.....intel likes the old thoughts in people's heads that amd is worse....make sure noone can get an amd...and free advertsising of general opinion cant get through....

example: sim lim square....singapore's biggest hardware place.....amd bought a nice big sign to advertise,....everyone could see it.....that is until intel purchased a huge 10m by 10 m panel that was placed above the ground in the cnetre square of the ground floor....physically blocking everything and stopping people from seeing or being able to notice the AMD ad.....

another example: Dell only offers intel and they give you "choice" by offering lots of different intels....the first choice you get on most other sites is between AMD or intel to start with....theres consumer choice....

if people see amd ad's....its useless noone can tell that they exist as processors you can buy....often i hear people buying intel computers or wanting to look for AMD but they only found HP and gateway.....

the only alternative: what amd is doing right now....OEM plus AMD like acer-amd-ferrari .... that makes something.....AMD opteron as a big white symbol at the end of star wars episode 3....its all they can afford and its all that works....


AMD has a superior product, it was hard enough making it and theyre expected to work against a company that maintains its position illegally? halting intel's ability to illegally prevent demand from forming is the first step....theres no point advertising for a product that people cant buy to start with and cant express that demand.....its like asking cuban cigar manufacturers to advertise in the US to improve their demand there...

Ive snapped:
An xbox360 and a 12" iBook....
And a kawasaki er-6n to mod instead
Rooin Jul 21, 2005, 02:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Is AMD finally starting to lose its marbles? Not really...
I can see what you mean Paul.

This whole ordeal, is a different way to achieve publicity.... Maybe this will fan out in AMDs favor a little bit.
But even if they win, like Sander said, they have to step up to the plate to provide enough product for a larger number of PCs

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Thermalfreak Jul 21, 2005, 04:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Is AMD finally starting to lose its marbles? Not really...
But theyve already got processors on big brands...theyve got desktop chips on a variety of laptops...even before turion they had alot of sempron (25w) cpus on laptops with built in wireless and direct competitor to moblie celeron and low end centrino's...theyve got high power turions all the way to the (i assume) 3700+ if a pr rating of 37 translates to 3700+ since thyve got 28 (2800+?) as their lowest end model....

sempron cpus can be found on hewlett packard computers and high end athlon 64s on other computers....these cpus are cheaper superior....but theyre limited, by force by intel....as soon as intel is not allowed to do alot of what they do right now theres alot more room for AMD's efforts to show results....


Ive snapped:
An xbox360 and a 12" iBook....
And a kawasaki er-6n to mod instead

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