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Mike Burdett Aug 12, 2005, 05:38am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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System Specs:

ASUS A8V DELUXE
AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+
2 X 512MB CORSAIR VALUE SELECT MEMORY
2 X 250GB SEAGATE BARRACUDA
SAPPHIRE RADEON 9550 256MB
SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 913N TFT MONITOR
1 X DVD WRITER
1 X DVD ROM
1 X CD WRITER

PROBLEM:
This is my first complete build (have prviously upgraded and changed cases etc) and i am having problems booting up, on first boot the PC reported an issue with the processor not being recognised and would go no further, it was suggested to me that i neede to update/flash the bios, i did this from the cd supplied with the motherboard following the instructions from the manual, after updating it the system was supposed to reboot itself, a message came on to say the system was rebooting then went blank, after some time the system had still not rebooted so i switched the system off to reboot myself, upon rebooting all the fans started all the drives were functioning but there was no self test beep and the display does not come on and the monitor remains sleeping, i have cleared the CMOS by following the manual, and retryed again but the system still acts the same ( no display) also the computer does not reset and to be switched off the power button must be held down for over four seconds (previously a short press). have also tried the system on a CRT monitor with no luck, and the graphics card previously worked as that is taken from my old system.

Can anyone help or anyone had similair problems?
Please let me know


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guru Shane Aug 12, 2005, 06:05am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Aug 12, 2005, 06:06am EDT

 
>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
"No Beeps................=.............Power, Power Supply Loose Card or Short"

http://www.hi-tech.net/zones/help-beep.html

Mike Burdett Aug 12, 2005, 06:20am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
it is a new 500W power supply and since it already booted first time i dint think it would have a problem? have tried rebooting with only processor, memory and graphics card attached and checked to make sure they were on right,
By short do you mean damage to the PCB?

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INTEL CORE 2 DUO E8400 with ZALMAN 9700 HSF
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Afrow UK Aug 12, 2005, 06:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
The other day I was messing with my memory configuration, and I had a single stick left in in the wrong slot. That stopped my system booting up (wouldn't pass the beep test thingy) nor would the monitor go on.

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Topflite66 Aug 12, 2005, 07:21am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
Mike,

Did you make a backup of the BIOS when you flashed it? It's a good practice to get into when doing a flash in the event that anything goes wrong. It sounds like something happened during the flash. If you did make a backup of the BIOS, try going back to the original and then reflashing the system with the new version. Also I would recommend that when flashing take all precautions, Do a full format of the floppy disk (If it has a bad sector throw it away and get another), scan the flash utility and BIOS update for viruses. I know that this may sound pretty dumb, but I had a friend that flashed his BIOS with a floppy disk that had a bad sector on it and it corrupted his BIOS and he was forced to RMA the board.

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Mike Burdett Aug 12, 2005, 07:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
Unfortunately no i did not make a backup off the BIOS (allthough in hindsight wish i had) as i was flashing from the cd supplied with the motherboard i did not think i would have any problems, i have tried to clear the CMOS to revert the board to its original settings but this doesnt seem to be working as i can no longer get any display

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INTEL CORE 2 DUO E8400 with ZALMAN 9700 HSF
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Mike Burdett Aug 12, 2005, 10:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
someone stop me if this sounds silly, apparently there is an EZflash facility on this board that enables it to be flashed even without a processor attached, and also the BIOS has to be either V1013 to run a 64 bit processor or the latest 1014 to work with a dual core processor, now is there a possibility that the board was shipped with BIOS 1013 and was running sufficient for me to get to a point where the Flash was needed and when i have flashed the BIOS from the Supplied CD i have flashed it to an earlier version i.e V1012 which cannot run with the 64bit processor so appears to do nothing, now this EZflash apparently works by getting the Latest driver on disk putting the disk in the floppy drive with the driver renamed A8V.ROM and by pressing ALT + F2 as the system boots then this will flash the BIOS to the latest version and then automatically reboot the PC and it will then work with the attached dual core processor?

Now is this idea stupid or am I stupid for flashing to an earlier BIOS?

Appreciate anyones thought on this

Cheers

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guru Shane Aug 12, 2005, 03:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
Get the latest BIOS from their web site. Try flashing it again. It can't hurt.

Mike Burdett Aug 12, 2005, 07:03pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
yeah it was a previous version i had flashed with (oops), managed to flash to the latest version using EZflash and got everything sorted but only goes so far as the windows loading screen?

Anyone any ideas?

thanks for all your help so far, hopefully should get it up and running soon

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guru Shane Aug 12, 2005, 07:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
If everything in the BIOS is at stock settings, (nothing is overclocked), then it could be a problem with the Windows installation. Try reinstalling Windows and see if that helps. I'm not sure if changing the BIOS would affect Windows. Have you seen a blue screen at all? That could be indicate a RAM problem. Also, check the BIOS and make sure that everything is showing up as what it is supposed to be showing up as. For instance, check out what it says about the dual core processor.

Mike Burdett Aug 12, 2005, 07:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
have not seen any blue screens, the processor is showing up right Athlon 64 X2 3800+, hard drives dont get detected unless they are set up in raid though?
Didnt really want to reinstall windows as i have a lot stored on the hardrives would this not wipe them?

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RADEON X1900XT 512MB & X-FI FATALITY XTREME GAMER SOUNDCARD
guru Shane Aug 12, 2005, 07:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
You can leave the reinstall for later. Try troubleshooting the rest of your hardware. Boot with 1 stick of RAM. Change the sticks and boot again. Is the clock speed shown in the BIOS matching what it is supposed to be?

Topflite66 Aug 12, 2005, 10:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
Mike,

Were your drives set up as a raid previously? The reason I ask is because it seems odd that the drives will only get recognized when they are set up as a raid.

If you want to verify that your memory is good try memtest86 http://www.memtest86.com/. It's a very good tool for testing memory. It will take a while with the amount of memory you have but it will give you a definitive answer if your memory is causing the problem or not. Blue's suggestion of testing your hardware is a good one that way you can rule out hardware as being the problem. You might also want to download Seagate diagnostic for your drives and run that to test your hard drives. Your drives may have come with a disk with it. Then reset your BIOS to default settings and try to go into windows again.

If you have a spare hard drive you can take out the two Seagates and put in the spare drive temporarily to see if windows will load. That way you don't loose any of your data and it will tell you if it's something with windows that's causing the problem.

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Mike Burdett Aug 13, 2005, 07:23am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
No i Previously had them running without raid and both the memory and the hard drives are from a previous build that was running fine, the hard drives are plugged in through the Red port (promise controller?) which i believe is the Raid port but in the bios you can set this to standard IDE or Raid, standard IDE does not detect the drives and raid does not detect them and asks to setup a raid array which once done reboots and detects the drives, the boot will only flash on to the windows loading screen before resetting itself, i do have a spare Western Digital 160Gb hardrive whic already has XP installed also would you recommend trying this one?
with regard to the clock speed in the BIOS im not really to sure about this?

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INTEL CORE 2 DUO E8400 with ZALMAN 9700 HSF
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Merc Aug 13, 2005, 07:32am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Aug 13, 2005, 07:33am EDT

 
>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
Mike-
You yo realize that by going to a new mobo you have virtually guaranteed that windows will need to be re-installed on freshly formatted hard drives. There are ways around this but it is best to start with a fesh install. My advice is get everything you want saved off those disks and reinstall windows.


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Mike Burdett Aug 13, 2005, 07:38am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
i was hoping not to have too, but looks like thats the way to go

thanks to everyone for all their help

il probably be back if i run into any more problems, or if i still cant sort this

Cheers all

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guru Shane Aug 13, 2005, 01:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
That sounds like that could be the problem. You have new hardware, so it's just natural that you have to install the drivers that are needed for that specific hardware.

Mike Burdett Aug 14, 2005, 04:38pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problems booting system up, no display
got it up and running after re-installing windows, only problem was the hard drives were not getting detected in the Red IDE port (Promise controller) so had to move it to the others and disconnect one of my optical drives, does anyone know if seperate drivers are needed for the promise controller?

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