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FingerMeElmo87 Aug 30, 2005, 11:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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i was thinking about current cooling options out on the market; stardard fans, liquid, and phase change. well one day while looking in the luandry room for something i notice that we had a kenmore mini fridge that no one uses. then it hit me "why not put a computer parts in the fridge?" you can usually get the temps inside to below freezing easily. so why not put a computer into a mini frigde? with adequit cooling and plenty of space theres plenty for expandability. the only problem i thought of is humidity. ice freezing to a mother board doesnt sound so good. tell me some one; is this at all feasable?


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Chris M Aug 31, 2005, 12:07am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
If you can eliminate the problem of condensation, it's perfectly feasible. Consider also the amount of heat you are outputting. Can your fridge handle the load?

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G. G. Aug 31, 2005, 12:18am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
dont do it. too much humidity will cause condensation and especially when you open the door just to peak inside. Go open your house refridge just for three seconds and see how fast the edge of the door, shelves, and stuff get condensated. Now just imagine that with your components. It doesnt take very long. It is like as soon as you open the door. How much condensation will always vary depending on the weather and environment ie house, land, etc..... Now I am saying this about all the components in the fridge.... BUT.......... if you were to do a water cooling system for the computer and put the pump, resoviour, and radiator in the fridge.... this would be great. If you want to know more about this type of setup then contact PCGeek because he has one of a dooozzzzieeee working.

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FingerMeElmo87 Aug 31, 2005, 12:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
ok well what about a phase change. is it possible to model a phase change cooling system the same way that a liquid cooling setup would be. instead of the cooling liqiud there would be R507 gas and obviously there would be no radiator nor a resorvior. there will just be a compressor with an outlet for the compressed gas/liquid and an inlet for the uncompressed gas to be recompressed. now the pipe with the compressed gas would lead to the valve that releases it but unlike in conventional refrigeration methods there would be two outlet valves instead of one. one would go to the cpu and another would go to the video card (or a second if in SLI. then the valve would be a three port valve) then circle back to the compressor to be recompressed. is it feasable?

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FingerMeElmo87 Aug 31, 2005, 12:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
ok well what about a phase change. is it possible to model a phase change cooling system the same way that a liquid cooling setup would be. instead of the cooling liqiud there would be R507 gas and obviously there would be no radiator nor a resorvior. there will just be a compressor with an outlet for the compressed gas/liquid and an inlet for the uncompressed gas to be recompressed. now the pipe with the compressed gas would lead to the valve that releases it but unlike in conventional refrigeration methods there would be two outlet valves instead of one. one would go to the cpu and another would go to the video card (or a second if in SLI. then the valve would be a three port valve) then circle back to the compressor to be recompressed. is it feasable?

COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR
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CPU GPU or GPU CPU GPU
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FingerMeElmo87 Aug 31, 2005, 12:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
ok well what about a phase change. is it possible to model a phase change cooling system the same way that a liquid cooling setup would be. instead of the cooling liqiud there would be R507 gas and obviously there would be no radiator nor a resorvior. there will just be a compressor with an outlet for the compressed gas/liquid and an inlet for the uncompressed gas to be recompressed. now the pipe with the compressed gas would lead to the valve that releases it but unlike in conventional refrigeration methods there would be two outlet valves instead of one. one would go to the cpu and another would go to the video card (or a second if in SLI. then the valve would be a three port valve) then circle back to the compressor to be recompressed. is it feasable?

COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR
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CPU GPU or GPU CPU GPU
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l l
COMPRESSOR COMPRESSOR

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Merc Aug 31, 2005, 12:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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G. G. Aug 31, 2005, 01:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
now i havent seen one that has multiple chill cords from the compressor.

take a look at some of these as a start. -

http://www.asetek.com/
http://www.jab-tech.com/customer/home.php?cat=194


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FingerMeElmo87 Aug 31, 2005, 07:13pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
yeah. i see that having multiple cords leading fom the compressor would be badass ass but then again no one else has anything to offer like that. i guess this would be more along the lines of some serious do it yourself projects. time to take apart my brothers mini fridge.

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Greg M Aug 31, 2005, 07:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
I see nothing wrong with putting one in a fridge as long as you keep it in a dry room, seal the opening the cables are coming in from, and dont open it unless the whole computer is room temp. Put your drives outside the fridge for easy access.

Also, find some of that de-humidifier stuff that you get with shoes and other random things and put a small mound of that in, replacing it whenever it becomes saturated.

As far as refidgerated water, you still have the same issues of condensation on the water blocks, and if your system is highly effective, behind the CPU.

Another option would be put the computer in the fridge, submerged in a non-conductive liquid. Then condensation is not an issue.

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FingerMeElmo87 Aug 31, 2005, 08:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
does anyone know were you can get some R507 gas? and whats this about nonconductive liquid? are you talking about submerging the motherboard and everything else in this liquid?

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Tim Sep 12, 2005, 10:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
Yes. Yes he is.

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Paul Bruce Aug 30, 2008, 12:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
It's definately possible. I don't think it's reasonable for non-enthusiasts or feasable for long-term computing. Until it is:

http://pbruce.blogspot.com/2008/08/computer-refrigerator-or-both.html

Sander Sassen Aug 30, 2008, 04:02pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
Feasible? Yes, most certainly, I pioneered the idea almost ten years ago, have a look:

http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/reports/article..._3580756_1

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Gerritt Aug 30, 2008, 08:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
DO NOT SUBMERSE your PSU!

Everything else should be fine.
You'll want your liquid to be non-organic, as organic oils will break down and leave residue that can be conductive or capacitive.

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Meats_Of_Evil Aug 30, 2008, 11:46pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
Whats wrong with submerging a PSU? I've seen it done using vegetable oil.

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Gerritt Sep 01, 2008, 08:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Is putting computer parts into a refrigerator feesable?
Liquids that are non-conductive at low wattage/voltage can become conductive at higher voltages (110-240VAC). Additionally vegitable oil is one of those organics that I mentioned that are a no-no as they will break down and become conductive over time. Vegitable oils can be used in the short term, but almost never survive as a longterm solution. The breakdown from contamination can be slowed through the use of a closed airfree system (such as using a floating airshield such as sheet plastic), it is still more prone to thermal breakdown over time than the non-organic alternatives. Also keep in mind that a low viscosity/high circulation rate will be more efficient than a high viscosity/ low circulation rate in moving heat away from the components.

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