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Mr T Sep 04, 2005, 10:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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well i bought windows xp home edition for my computer, and i was wondering if it was legal to put that same verison on my laptop since the verison i bought had sp2 and everytime i downloaded sp2 on my laptop, my laptop would crash, my laptop already came with windows xp home edition when i bought it in 2002


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Reason Sep 04, 2005, 11:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Windows XP on 2 computers
i think as long as you use the key that came with your original version, you should be ok legal wise.

if it crashes when you try to install SP2, back everything up first, it might not work and you might have to reinstall the original version.

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sven Sep 04, 2005, 11:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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legal wise im pretty sure your in the red here. tech wise, have you registered the copy of windows? if so then it will crash the other system when installed. im not sure if thats whats happening but its worth checking into

Max Steiner Sep 04, 2005, 11:59pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Sep 05, 2005, 12:01am EDT

 
>> Re: Windows XP on 2 computers
The actual, physical CD isn't the problem, it's the serial/reg numbers that's at the crux of the issue.

You run that new CD of WindowsXP Home w/ SP2 on your desktop, and apply the serial number on the box to that install. Done. No problems.

You run that new CD of WindowsXP Home w/ SP2 on your laptop, and apply the serial number _on the bottom of the laptop_ in the Windows COA sticker to that install...

... and you _might_ have problems. It would be because the serial number in that COA sticker is a SP1-type serial number, and you're using a SP2 CD to do the install from. At the very worst, it will b!tch and complain at you that the serial number you are using is invalid. It won't (or shouldn't) crash your laptop... just deny any progress on the install.

If that's the case, then you're at a decision point... you could try using the new box's serial number (again) to, at the very least, get the OS installed on the notebook. It won't, however, let you authorize it, at least electronically (it will say that the number is already registered (which it is, on the desktop)), and then I would try entering in the laptop's COA sticker number. If it still doesn't take it, I would call Microsoft for a "Authorize By Phone", and explain the situation to them. You _do_ have two perfectly legal COA stickers, just that your laptop isn't accepting Windows Updates by Net Connection. If they get all fussy about you doing this, then request something be done about this, such as them sending you a ServicePack2 update-on-CD... which they should send out free of charge. That _should_ work on your notebook.

POST EDIT:
I realized, you might not know what "COA" means... COA = Certificate of Authenticity

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Sean Costello Sep 05, 2005, 12:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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From what i heard Legally you shouldnt use it on more than 3 PC's, that was from a Microsoft Employee

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Jay J Sep 05, 2005, 12:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dont be so sure, When I called microsoft to reactivate xp pro they asked how many pc's do I have this on I said 2 1 laptop 1 home pc. They didnt have a problem with that. Infact ive heard from several sources that THIS IS LEGAL.

Anyway maybe its a compatablity issue that your having, maybe its stressing the cpu too much, or temps maybe too high. Have you tried a clean install reformat and all?

Good Luck to ya,
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Max Steiner Sep 05, 2005, 12:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Sep 05, 2005, 12:13am EDT

 
>> Re: Windows XP on 2 computers
If that was the case, Sean, he/she told you this off-the-record, and certainly off the company time clock. Microsoft wants nothing less than you buying a single copy of their OS _per_ single install. Period. End of discussion.

There _are_ loopholes and exploits. But I'll tell you this... XP Home is the toughest of the four XP flavors to shoot holes in (Home, Pro, Pro Corporate, MCE). Pro Corporate is the easiest, and the one you see the most amount of tinkering with.

If you look at the COA of WindowsXP Pro, you'll see a "two processor" blurb... that's because Pro was designed to operate on/with dual core and dual processor configurations. But there's another little-known nuance to WindowsXP Pro that very few Microsoft employees want you know... that a laptop can be, and should be, designated as a "mobile extension" of a desktop system, and thus, legally, you are able to install a single legit copy of XP Pro on the desktop _and_ laptop using the same serial number.

That's the only legit loophole I know of. There are others, but I would reserve from mentioning them casually. :)

POST EDIT:
It seems Jay J beat me to the "POST" button. The instance he's talking about is the very same thing I'm mentioning in paragraph 3 right above... that with XP _Pro_, you can legally do a laptop and a desktop under the same serial number, because a laptop is designated as a "mobile extension" of the overall system. I've never seen it work with XP Home, though.

Good luck getting Microsoft to let the general public know this fact, though. They adopt a "don't ask, don't tell" policy... if the customer doesn't ask, they don't tell.

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Mr T Sep 05, 2005, 02:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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wow im pulled at both sides, yea i have installed the windows xp verison with the sp2 on my laptop, and when i tried to register it, the only thing i got was that the cd key was in use, i was thinking of calling microsfot, but i dont wanna get a lawsuit in ignorance,

i dont know exactly why my computer crashes when i download sp2 from the microsoft update, but im not really interested in using this laptop enough to find out, ive had to format the hard drive and reinstall the cd boot disc i got from the store i bought it from and that takes too much time, im just thinking would it breach the COA if u just update a computer with SP2 with using another windows xp cd

Max Steiner Sep 05, 2005, 11:20am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mistah T...

You won't fetch a lawsuit by calling them up. The worst that can happen is they hang up on you without giving you an authorizing code. Without that code, your laptop is unable to use the OS intalled on it. Make sense?

I don't mean this to sound harsh, but you're a naive' computer user who doesn't "know better". I think that if it came to it, the phone conversation with Microsoft could get ironed out, and that it would go one of two routes:

A) You explain the situation to Microsoft regarding your laptop, and that you merely wanted to update your laptop to the updated _service pack_ (make sure you say that, and not "upgrade version" ). You have a legitimate serial number for XP Home on your laptop, and here it is... and Microsoft grants you an authorizing code to allow that serial number to take that OS install.

B) You explain the situation to Microsoft regarding your laptop, and that you merely wanted to update your laptop to the updated _service pack_ because the Windows Automatic Update method crashes your laptop, and that no tech assistance has been able to figure it out. You were going to try this OS re-install method, and if that's not going to work (according to the Microsoft person on the phone), then you'd like, as a compromise, a XP Home Service Pack 2 -on-CD sent to you.

Gosh, I love customer service. :) Can you tell I used to do this for a job? :)

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Mr T Sep 05, 2005, 02:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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thanks for the advice, ill try it, hopefully ill get teh laptop to function with SP2 soon

Gerritt Sep 05, 2005, 03:04pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Windows XP on 2 computers
We need to clear up a couple of things.
First, the option for a copy @ work and another @ home if you are the primary user DOES NOT APPLY to the OS, just certain applications (read the EULA for details). So if you have two systems you need two valid Licenses. The COA counts as a license.
So if you have new MEDIA you can use that media to legally load the software onto the licensed systems.
Insofar as the 2 or three systems, Microsoft gives you a bit of leniency insofar as the number of online activations that are permitted for a specific serial number....this DOES NOT mean that its legal to run on multiple systems. If you've exceeded your load count you've got to call and explain your situation as well as the # of licenses you have.
Microsoft does not diferentiate between original, SP1, SP1a or SP2 for licensing purposes, but does for XP Home, Pro, and MediaCenter.
I hope this has helped.

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Max Steiner Sep 05, 2005, 05:56pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Gerritt Sep 05, 2005, 06:50pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> WXP on two systems
Max,
After looking at your post, I think I can see the issue.
The COA (Certificate Of Authenticity) is based off of a OEM load. If you get the retail version the OEM key may not work.
What you've seen IS applicable here.
The original poster can not get SP2 loaded on his/her laptop, even though LEGALLY entitled to do so; or so I am led to believe. At the VERY LEAST he/she should be able to get new media for SP2 based upon the COA (at a shipping and generation cost at the maximum).
I've retired so many self built systems that I've had to dial Microsoft at least 3 or 4 times since getting XP.
I do not lie, cheat or steal, and do not condone this behavior.
A system with a COA attached is a OEM build, and as such, the OEM is responsible for updated Software media and support.
IF you are nice to the MS folks, you can usually get what you need.

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Sean Costello Sep 05, 2005, 06:57pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I saw it on TV (Back in the Days when there was Tech Tv and it wasnt bought by G4) on The Screen Savers..

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Dublin_Gunner Sep 05, 2005, 07:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Mr. T.

Do you know of anyone that has SP2 downloaded? Just get them to stick it on a cd for ya. You are allowed distribute Service Packs. Hell, I could burn ya a copy (i have it on CD) and send it to ya. You can also order it on Microsofts website

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