Good to see that AMD is still in the race with Intel and ahead a bit. Hope te read up on the overclocking performance of the new AMD chip. I know that in the past there wasn't much performance gain to be won with overclocking as you coulndn't overclock the chip all that much.

Damn if i knew this, id have waited and the 2200+ would be the cost of my 2000+ a month ago im happy though lol

WOW k3wL dooD. Gotta buy coupled with atI radeon 9700and a gig. of 400mHz ram . Killer!

Whats the speed of this new beast, I've searched all over the AMD home website and I can't find any thing to do with the speed of the damm thing .

its only like 2.167 Ghz or something like that. Yeah but is still performs really well.

thanks Wyatt

u guys sure its 2.167? 2700 alredy 2.16 3000 must be more

yea ive seen it now and it is 2.167Ghz, the speed increase for Athlons have bee at a crawing speed compared to Pentiums, but im gonna wait a few months for the prices to drop before I go blow £500+ on a new cpu and a further £300 on a mobo and 333 ram

Yeah I believe its the same as the 2800 but With more cache and a new core. Hm I will wait to see what happends.

if it is the basic same as the 2800+ then how come it isnt the Athlon XP 2800+ SE?

Because it is a different core. Besides that would be a lame name and it performs 3000+

The only thing I don't understand is why they made the core speed only 2.16 ghz 2.33 ghz would have been cool

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I believe they just wanted to start the Barton Core at this Clockspeed. Alls that matters really is if the CPU performs better. Expect an increase on the clock speed later and even more when the hammer core comes out.

Well if you are rich get one, I think they are well to over priced...

Cheaper than Intels Best.

2.16 for a new processor isn't that bad...when Mhz dont mean that much any more...The heat issues of AMD's new processors have always been a major problem that gets fixed after the initial release. Intel does the same thing.

same core, more cache. had photos of the core @ 2cpu.com. OC'd the same as 2700+

Its a day late and a dollar short IMHO. The athlon FSB's are too slow, ddr333 runs asynchronously with the bus and AMD is migrating to hyper transport bus support anyway. I will hold off on my urges to build until prescott and hypertransport systems on a supporting .09 micrometer chip from AMD have a go head to head. Hyperthreading combined with support for dual channel ddr400 on an 800 MGz FSB (6.4 gb memory bandwidth) could quite possibly blow AMD out of the water for a while to come. Also, DDRII is on the horizon and im sure Intel will eventually offer a hypertransport option as well...one word, rediculous!!

Well, its obvious that someone has drawn a line.......dont get to pumped on your intel mumbo jumbo as they have frequently found themselves in the same pool as nvidia and the fx. Granted with a gpu prometieas (mythical) you might get your money's worth.
Bottom line is if ya wanna have some fun and you can afford it then do what you will, on the other hand if you are one of those wishing to waste more time waiting for a chip thats going to stay on top for 5 minutes longer then the rest then fine.....wait for your .9 micron intel. My theory is that if you have the cash to buy that bad boy when it comes out then why not have some fun oc'ing the underdog in the meantime?.......its more rewarding and more of a challenge! Just my 2 cents!

I dont know, the independent benchmarks iv seen show the p4 3ghz on PC1066 to outperform the Athlon 3000+... im sure that AMD is still the value leader, but "Fastest Processor"? I think AMD is stretching the truth a bit there...

Well if you were to compare mhz to mhz AMD would eat Intel for shnootzinflogin. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Just settle it all down with a little generals.