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sean boyley Dec 19, 2005, 03:00am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
ty for the info GT90 , will give it some real thought....will only be buying my rig sometime early january
so lets hope prices drop slightly ... ?
hoping to get a 7800gt in april sometime , should be good price by then ;-)

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FordGT90Concept Dec 19, 2005, 06:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
I wouldn't expect the price to drop much by January because there is nothing new coming out (that I'm aware of) that would drive the prices down.

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PCGEEK Dec 21, 2005, 02:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
well on air that X2 3800+ will do 5000+ or better no problem as you can see in my sig.

sean boyley Dec 21, 2005, 03:16am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
well I am not so worried about "top end" , I'm sure I could overclock the 4400+ to 2,4ghz
which is 4800+ basically ;-) .... however my worry is I play chess mostly , and have an intensive program
shredder9 , which I use to analyse games...this suchs quite a lot of resources (my 754 3000+ use to choke)
and I would love to be able to run the analysis and still have full preformance on the pc, if thats possible..
so I thought the extra cache on the 4400+ is more important than top end preformance ?
wot do u guys think ?
as always ur input is greatly appreciated ! very nice site :-)

FordGT90Concept Dec 21, 2005, 04:04am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
A dual core processor would definitely help with your multitasking performance. The higher the model number the faster the performance. It might have a little to do with the extra cache but not much. They are all great chips. Get the one that fits your budget the best. Personally, I think going any higher than the 3800+ and you are paying for the exclusiveness and name, not performance.

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Tim Dahm Dec 28, 2005, 12:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Should i upgrade?
Hey all,
I have read some of the advice on this site and think most of you know what you are talking about so i was wondering if you guy's could give me some advice to the if i should upgrade my system.
My current System Spec is:

Gigabyte K8 Triton Series (nforce4 Motherboard)
Amd 3000+ Socket 939
1256 of DDR 400 Ram
Geforce 6600GT 128MB Pci
Maxtor 160GB Hdd (ATA)
Samsung 80GB Hdd (Sata)

I was thinking of upgarding to a Amd X2 4200+ (dual core) or maybe to a X2 4400+ (with promision of my lovely wife) or should i just upgrade my memory. My System is mainly used for games & sometimes video editing. Any advice would be great.

Thanks.




FordGT90Concept Dec 28, 2005, 12:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
You have a pretty well-rounded system. One question though, how is that memory distributed and what clocks are the sticks rated for? I'm going to guess you have 2 x 512 MB @ DDR400 and 1 x 256 MB @ DDR333. If you don't know off the top of your head, you can use CPU-Z to get this information available for free at http://www.cpuid.com

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SuPeR Xp Dec 28, 2005, 12:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 28, 2005, 12:58pm EST

 
>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
Gigabyte K8 Triton Series (nforce4 Motherboard)
Amd 3000+ Socket 939
1256 of DDR 400 Ram
Geforce 6600GT 128MB Pci
Maxtor 160GB Hdd (ATA)
Samsung 80GB Hdd (Sata)


My advice is to upgrade with the Athlon 64 X2's, but not right now. Wait until about Late January to early Feburary, new products should be coming out which should drop prices on stuff out right now. Then you can e-bay your system for some good $cash$.

This is what I recommend though your system is great :)
- AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
- Abit or Sapphire or Asus - Crossfire mobo w/ new ATI RD580 chipset coming in late January
- ATI or Sapphire Radeon X1900XL or XT - new ATI R580 graphics coming in late January
- 2 x Western Digital Caviar SATA II (WD2500KS) 250GB 7200RPM 16MB Buffer in RAID 0
- 1 x Maxtor Maxline III 300Gb, 7200rpm, 16Mb Cache SATA Hard Drive 9.0ms for Storage/Back-up
- OCZ's new Power Stream (Power Supply) coming in January - May be 700W +
- OCZ 1Gb (2x512Mb) Platinum Edition DDR533 Dual Channel Kit (2.5-3-3-8) - OCZ5331024ELDCPE-K
- etc.

All in good time. And the Dual Core Athlons will really help in video & games.
Take Care,




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Tim Dahm Dec 28, 2005, 01:08pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Thanks!
Cheers for the advice, and my memory is 1gig stick & 1 256mb stick both running ddr 400.
I have for slots and have thought about putting in 4gb (would that boost game preformance)?

Greg Wiemer Apr 07, 2006, 12:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
4200+ is so much better than 4400+. OC'es better, much cheaper, runs colder. Amazing...

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SuPeR Xp Apr 07, 2006, 07:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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mothow Apr 07, 2006, 07:23am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
Looking back throught this thread reminds me of just how stupid PCGEEK really was.The X2 are made for over clocking he state's .No cpu is built for overclocking its jjust a side benfits.What moron he was...is...

And the X2 4200+ and a 7900GT would be awesome both oc great and both rock

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SuPeR Xp Apr 07, 2006, 03:09pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 07, 2006, 03:09pm EDT

 
>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
I am not sure if they are made for OC'ing, but I do know for a fact that the Athlon 64's with SOI should OC quite nice ;)

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guru Shane Apr 07, 2006, 06:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 07, 2006, 08:13pm EDT

 
>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
This is just my 2 cents, but I would say, "If you're going to overclock, buy something cheap." I have been through some hardware in my time, and overclocking definitely shortens the lifespan of the device being overclocked. If you want speed, then buy the fastest you can afford and leave it alone. I hate to break it to all the overclockers out there, but unless you're folding or doing something else intensive for really long periods of time, your overclock isn't making a large difference in your speeds. Just remember that your PC will be running much faster at stock speeds than an overclocked PC that has crashed from overheating or has just totally died from the abuse.

Oh, and dual cores weren't made for overclocking. You will find that a single core will overclock much further. You also run into issues of 1 core losing stability earlier than the other, and all sorts of other fun. PCGeek has said a lot of ignorant things in his time here, and yes, "dual cores were made for overclocking" was one of them.

All that being said, if you have the money and you want to impress yourself, go for it. Other than perhaps an ego boost, I don't think it is really worth it.

TamTheBam Apr 07, 2006, 07:26pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E

Firstly: WTF PCGEEK doing here for???

Ian Yeo, hah ai liked ur comment at the start of the thread! lol!
Can't see your hardware spec tho?

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TamTheBam Apr 07, 2006, 07:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Oops! Just REALISED this thread started way in Dec! So PCGEEK aint here after all!


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Robert Brauner Apr 26, 2006, 10:45am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
I also bought a Geforce 7900GT this week better say the Asus EN7900GT Top (520M Hz/ 1440 MHz).

...and I am also thinking about choosing between the Athlon64 4000+ (single core) and the X2 4200+.

Which one can you recommend for 70% gaming and 30% other applications (Encoding etc.)

Michael C Apr 26, 2006, 11:30am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
I would get the X2 3800+ dude, that should go nicely with your system when overclocked and doesn't cost that much.

SuPeR Xp Apr 26, 2006, 03:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: X2 3800 vs X2 4200 vs 4000 rev E
Go for the X2 3800+ or X2 4200+. I would stick with the Dual Core more now then ever IMO.

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