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Microc Amers Apr 28, 2003, 10:34am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
I am having a weird prob. Whenever i set the AGP speed to 4x it defaults back to 8x!?

I have been having a realitvly fine week apart from a few freezes, but when it does CTRL+ALT+DEL dosn't do anything and i have to press reset.

When i press reset, no POST beeps, no voice message and nothing happens apart from fan whir. The reset and power button stop working when this happens, and i have to use the main power isolation switch at the back.

Turn it off, wait 60 secs, Turn it on Wait 60 secs, press power - working fine again.

It always freezes in 3Dmark03 on the nature or CPU tests.
I have seen another fourm with the same problems as us, but with other motherboards but with WinXP - i'll send the URL

EMAIL THIS FOURM TO ATI AND ASUS- IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEND IT, THEY MIGHT CONCENTRATE AND MAKE A PATCH.

p.s. Do the Radeon 9800s have the same prob?

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Julian Kraft Apr 28, 2003, 01:56pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
I´ve the problem that i don´t get a monitor signal. I cant get into the bios.
I get every failure signal from bios when i remove RAM or CPU or something else, but no beep when the monitor switches on.
I tried everything with this damn s**t f**ked up radeon, no chance. In my other pc theres no prob with it but on the ASUS P4G8X it doesn´t work.

Someone had this problem?

I already changed every component. Board, PSU, CPU, but not the radeon.



mike gaydos Apr 28, 2003, 02:07pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
try pulling out the video card...the start the pc. ot should give you an error such as "video card not detected" or some such. After that, re-insert the card (make sure there is a power connector hooked up to it, 4 pole molex) then restart. I had to do this routine several times before it would FINALLY post. after it did, i got the latest bios from asus and never had the "no post" problem again...but I am still suffering from the lock ups trying to run 8x with fast writes on just like everybody else here. I am waiting for the 3.3 drivers due out this week. Hope that helps

Tufan PINAR Apr 28, 2003, 02:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
As far as I see, these problems are not related with boards or Intel 7205 chipset. If you check even this site only, you will find that other boards beside Asus P4G8X and chipsets like VIA and SIS are also having problems with ATI Radeon. So I just blame it on ATI. We should keep sending this thread to ATI or any other which is about radeon problem so they won't sleep on it...
Cheers.

kuman jamban Apr 28, 2003, 02:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
anyone here have P4C800 and Radeon version PN XXX-XXXXX-30 ? ....

if so .... is it stable for all settings? ....

it was a real relief to see mine is version -30 .....


Julian Kraft Apr 28, 2003, 02:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
I tried this several times but still no signal.
Sometimes the monitor light switches between green(on/signal) and standby but no chance, nothing appears.
I´m one move away from destroying these damn things and never touch a pc anymore.

it took about 6 weeks to change the mainboard, the cpu(had to send it to ireland) and still nothing works.

The last thing i try is a pci grafikcard. propably i can update the radeon bios and the mainboard bios.


Simon Shaw Apr 28, 2003, 03:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
Tufan:

That might be so, but with the defects in the E7205-chipset it is most lightly much more unstable towards the Radeon-series graphics cards.

Tufan PINAR Apr 28, 2003, 04:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Simon :
It is true and accepted. What I meant is, these problems are not limitied within Asus P4G8X and E7205. New 9800 is not working well either.
I'm just waiting for my bonus pay and someone who would buy the Radeon 9700 Pro than I will go for the GeForce FX.

Gerald Olschewski Apr 28, 2003, 05:32pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
Hello,

maybe you can help me with my nasty little (big) problem.

My System:

- Pentium IV 3.06 GHz
- Asus P4G8X Deluxe
- Sapphire AIW 9700 Pro
- 2 x 512 MB (Kingston Value RAM 2100 with Infineon-Chips, CL2)
- 2 x 80 GB Maxtor Platten (7200 rpm) at Advance Peripherals Raid-Controller (PCI)
- CD/DVD and CD-RW
- Soundblaster Live 5.1 Player
- OS: Windows XP Prof. Ed.

The system works fine as long as I only do 2D Stuff. When I start to play a game with heavy 3D-action after a while (about 15 minutes) the 3,3 V-board voltage begins to rise up to about 3,8-3,9 V finally leading to a system alert and shortly after to an automatic system shutdown.

I use a 420 Watt ProSilence Goldedition PS. Both the board and the graphics card have been replaced. Therefore I think they should be ok.
The same PS worked fine in another system with a 1,1 GHz Thunderbird for about a year.

I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Thank you !

Jerry Lemmermann Apr 28, 2003, 06:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks I think to Ricky I used his settings and the thing finnaly made it to the boot sequence. Well thats the good news once it got to windows I had to according to the directions set up a standard vga setting first then reboot and set up the 9700 well good luck got nothing but error messages and lock ups in the reboot and in the disk checks mouse wouldn't work NAVAP caused faults tried everything. I now have the Gainward GF3 back in and running fine. Will keep my eyes on posts and wait for new drivers and bios upgrades while I gather my self back up. I will have to go to church a few times to get back some of the religion I lost screwing around with this combo. Thanks to all for trying to help I ran out of time and will power.
I think I will stick with A-Bit and Gforce.
Delemma

John McGarnicle Apr 28, 2003, 06:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
I'm currently running a 9700 Pro PN XXX-XXXXX-30 and a P4C800. As I've detailed earlier in the thread its now running stable on all settings. The only thing I had to do to recover from the lock ups was raise the AGP voltage to 1.6v.

I've been running my p4 2.4b SL6RZ for over 24hrs now overclocked with standard air cooling to 3.1ghz and I've had no lock ups.

That being said the performance still isn't as high as it should be, or at least it doesn't feel like it is. I'm still running through benchmarks and testing to try and get things where they were with my old system.

McG

ricky oh Apr 29, 2003, 02:19am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
I talked to an ATI tech today and he recommended me to :
Set AGP 8X
128 MB apeture
AGP 1.8.V
Fast writes on
Power supply is very important, i guess the card has very specific requirements. Been stable so far, i'll give it a couple of days and see how it goes. What's the significance of running the card at such a high voltage? Is this going to shorten the short life of this card even more? The card part number mattered only on the 9700 PRo, that's what the tech said, but that was "resolved", i guess thru newer drivers, he didn't elaborate. 3Dmark01 scores are higher than they were before, but i have to gauge my up time before i make any final statements.

Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester@ 2.40GHz
K8N Neo2 Platinum
1 GB OCZ Platinum Rev 2 (2-2-2-8)
HTx4, FSB 240 (5:6) prime stable
BFG 6800 GT@ 425/1100 stock bios/voltage
Pioneer DVR 108 unlocked
Liteon 52x32x52
WD 200 GB SATA
Audigy 2
Antec 480 TruePow
kuman jamban Apr 29, 2003, 03:09am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro

thats great *John McGarnicle* .....

but if it suddenly go wrong (hope it wouldnt) can u please inform us .... because before this my system on P4G8X work fine for more than 3 weeks .... then after that it have lockups ......

i think this is only to blame the E7205 chipset since my Radeon is version -30 (maybe thats why i dont experince many lockups as others..)

but is the performance on P4C800 really go down hill ? .....

Wolf Ster Apr 29, 2003, 05:38am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks to this thread, and some help from Mushkin, i got my P4G8X up and running. But not without some problems first.

I connected everything up, and started the machine up. No POST, no nothing, just a flash from my installed lights, and a breif whirring of fans. Hmm, i thought. Time to take everything out, and see what POSTs.

Bare board POSTs no CPU
Add CPU to bare board POSTs no memory.
Add memory, POSTs no video card.
Add 9700pro AIW, no POST at all, no power.

vid card issues? try my old gforce3. it works.

Hmm....

Got myself a slightly more powerful powersupply.

I started with Antec's 430w TruePower

I Had overnighted from PC Mutants, Enermax's EG465P-VE(FMA)431w for a friends AMD, and tried that.

w00t! It works! Heh, one watt! all it took (well that and the enermax is prolly a more efficent ps)

While looking for compatible memory, i ran across this page on mushkin's website.
http://www.mushkin.com/cgi-bin/Mushkin.storefront/3eae4549070b...#asusp4g8x

The juicy part says "Important: Using an AGP 8X capable graphics card, "Video Caching Mode" in the BIOS needs to be set to USWC, in UC mode the board will lose stability, default to 640 x 480 pixel resolution in 16 color mode and generate messages pointing to either the graphics drivers or to the memory while in reality it is a BIOS setting issue. Note that the board ships with UC as the default setting."

So after setting the BIOS to a more stable setting, I finish my install.

Win 2k (shush, i like it :p)
ASUS P4G8X
P4 2.53gHz
512 MB Mushkin Black Hi Perf Level II
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro AIW
SB Audigy Platinum

13,600 3dMarks2001 SE out of box, no tweaking.
5,350 3dMark03 out of box, no tweaking.

Microc Amers Apr 29, 2003, 01:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
Look on this fourm:
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/3153/

I is other people with the same problems -exept- with other chipsets.

hst ang Apr 29, 2003, 02:50pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
Hi folks, I've been following this thread for a few days since I was initially planning on upgrading my Ti4200 to a 9700Pro or 9800Pro, but the problems are somehow discouraging me. I have the same setup as most of you, except for the videocard of course.

I'm wondering why Tom's Hardware does not make any notice about this problem. He has recently added a new mb review on their website comparing 875 vs 7205, using the Radeon card in their setup.

Grtz,
Ho

P4G8X 2.66GHz P4
2x512MB Corsair 333-2.5
ASUS GeForce4 Ti4200 128MB

Tufan PINAR Apr 29, 2003, 03:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
Did anyone try Nvidia based 8X VGA with Asus P4G8X ? what's the result ?

ricky oh Apr 29, 2003, 03:54pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
To recap:
P4C800 Delux
Radeon 9500 PRO
AGP 8X
AGP 1.8V
Fast Writes on
128 MB apeture
P4 2.53 Ghz
512 MB 2100

Seems to be running strong. I don't know if i should be worried that the card is being feed 1.8 V though. My 3Dmark01 scores are about 12150. My box has gone to sleep and standby without any problems yet.

Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester@ 2.40GHz
K8N Neo2 Platinum
1 GB OCZ Platinum Rev 2 (2-2-2-8)
HTx4, FSB 240 (5:6) prime stable
BFG 6800 GT@ 425/1100 stock bios/voltage
Pioneer DVR 108 unlocked
Liteon 52x32x52
WD 200 GB SATA
Audigy 2
Antec 480 TruePow
mike gaydos Apr 29, 2003, 05:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
+++RICKY+++++

You said the bios has a setting for 1.8v? This must be new to the 875p chipset, because the e7205 only went to 1.7v (which, incidently, the ATi techy told me it was ok to run the card at...said it would not hurt anything)
This kinda leads me to believe that the Radeon is one power hungry sumbitch. Perhaps there is truth to an adequate power supply coupled with a higher voltage setting in the bios.
Ya Think?

John McGarnicle Apr 29, 2003, 05:57pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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and to recap my system:

P4C800 Deluxe, bios rev 1004.005
Radeon 9700 PRO
AGP 8X
AGP 1.7V
Fast Writes on
128 MB aperture
P4 2.4 ghz 533 fsb OC'd to 3ghz
512 MB Corsair XMS 3200
8 gig system drive
120 gig archive drive
80 gig Raid0 (these are using kingwin IDE to S-ATA adapters and are running off the S-ATA raid connections) all benchmarking apps are installed to this drive

here's the scores, everything was run at 1024x768/32bit:
3Dmark 2001se- 14800
3Dmark 2003 dx 9.0a updated- 4712

All this still seems low to me.


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