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Barry Tattersall May 16, 2003, 04:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro
Might be a silly question but I can’t find the option to turn of fast write.

Can someone give me a detail explanation of where to find this please

Another silly of topic question, can I disable the SATA so it doesn’t look for it in boot up? I still use IDE and don’t need this at the moment but I can’t find the option to disable it, again a bit of detail for someone new to this please.

Also a big thanks to you guys on looking into this problem, my system is more stable now. I wouldn’t have a clue what to do with out you lot. Still drops to a low res, reboots it’s self now and again. I find I need to run a game like wolfenstein, get it to crash from this, about 3 minutes into the game normally, reboot and then it’s fine until I decided to turn it of. Then same steps on the next boot up. Maybe it doesn’t like being cold. J

Thank you.

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Adam W May 16, 2003, 04:39am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: ASUS P4G8X and Radeon 9700 Pro

Simon, thanks for the info but why then is the problem resolved when turning fast writes off?
Also, this info is taken directly from ATI's website for my graphics card:

http://mirror.ati.com/products/pc/radeon9500pro/specs.html

System Requirements
RADEON™ 9500 PRO requires connection to your PC's internal power supply for operation. A 300-Watt power supply or greater is recommended to ensure normal system operation where a number of other internal devices are installed.

- I have a 350w as stated above.

Barry - right click anywhere on your desktop, select properties, settings, advanced, SmartGart and there you will see the option for turning fast writes to off.

Dmitri Filonov May 16, 2003, 06:23am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well FW problem not resolved... :P But still good with FW OFF....

Shane Mackinnon May 16, 2003, 03:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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"try to solve this by disc. some system devices"

What does that mean and how do I do it?

Simon Shaw May 16, 2003, 07:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Simply disconnect all hard-disks apart from your OS-disk, and also CD-ROM's etc.

Then run your system and see if you still get low bit and colour crashes.

Tim Bloggs May 17, 2003, 06:33am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey All,

I have been following this forum closely recently for any clues on how to get my Radeon 9700 pro up and working 24hours without crashing. I have done it and it only took me a month, lol. Ok, this is my setup...

Windows XP Pro
512 ddr 333
p4 2.4
asus p4g8x
sapphire radeon 9700 pro atlantis

Ok I tried everything. Finally this is what I did to get it working. (Fast write too)...

Go into bios and change the memory setting from UC to USCW.
Change aperture memory to 128 (64 if you only have 256 mb of ram)
Load up windows
Download Radeonator 2.0 and where you can adjust the GPU and memory speed change the memory from 310.5 to 303.75 (1 notch to the left) you can then increase the GPU to 330 if you want or leave it.
Set it so it changes the memory speed when windows loads.
Then click ok.
Now goto Smartgart and turn on fast write and restart...

Should work... works for me... The whole time i had errors was becuase of the video memory running a tiny bit too quickly...

Phew i am happy that is out of the way, I was about to get a new video card...

Regards,

Tim.

Dmitri Filonov May 17, 2003, 07:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Why so hard way Tim Rettke? :)
For me I just Turn off FW and all working just without any probs...

My config...

P4-2666
Asus P4G8X Deluxe
1gb DDR 2100 DUAL
Aopen 300W case
Connect3D Radeon 9500 PRO

I have all setting up to high exept 8x etc...
I have only problems when FW is ON... :)


Tim Bloggs May 17, 2003, 07:15am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The hard way, why? Because I spent AUD 630 on this card and if should be able to do fast write then it will do fast write...

So I have done this and I am sharing it because for me it works... 8x AGP no problems...

Tim.

Dmitri Filonov May 17, 2003, 07:36am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Tim u know... There is no power FW can give u in real life :P Extra 1mhz? U realy need it? :)))) It's just useless anyway...

Dmitri Filonov May 17, 2003, 07:39am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Tim,

Just try to bench with FW and without FW and u'll see by yourself... lol

Tim Bloggs May 17, 2003, 08:38am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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It is important, the card was designed for fast write right? So, whether it is better or not that is not the point, the point is that I have it working now... So that is important, I don't care if I get better performance, it is working better so i am happy...

Tim.


mike gaydos May 17, 2003, 08:38am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You guys totally missed Tim's point. (and mine also) It never was a matter of how much or how lees performance you will get with fast writes on OR off. Tim's point is, (correct me if I'm wrong here Tim) is that he paid for the features of a expensive card, the features show up in the control panel, so, dammit... we want to be able to use them.
Let me ask you guys something. You go to the BMW dealer right? You buy a 50,000 car. You drive it away...and everything is great. Life is good. But...soon as you turn on the air conditioner, the car dies. Cant make it run right as long as the air conditioner is running also. Soon as you turn the air back off...the car idles beatutifully...runs like a striped ass ape. Would you...in all seriousness....just drive it with the air off all the time just so you could get around? I frickin doubt it very much.
Tim is saying..."He paid for it, it's there, and he wants to use it." period!

Tim Bloggs May 17, 2003, 08:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Right!

Alex Colderbank May 17, 2003, 08:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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correct me if i'm wrong, but FW on a gfx card isn't as major as air con in a car... more like, your car is 0.05% slower than other cars of the exact same model.

Tim Bloggs May 17, 2003, 09:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Again not the point buddy...! Some people just cannot get it...

Adam W May 17, 2003, 10:54am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Actually Tim and Mike, the point is to get the card running smoothly and stabily on your system with the best performance without overclocking....unless you really want to.
Has the thought crossed your minds that fast write IS a performance increase on SOME systems but not all?
And have you thought about some systems actually having better performance and stability with it OFF?
Hello?!
As for your bmw example...
There is no comparison.

*SOME PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO ICE SKATE UPHILL*

mike gaydos May 17, 2003, 11:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I'm not posting anything to argue with you guys. Get that straight right off ...ok?
Alex....you are totally missing the point. Sorry...my bad for not explaining my self better. Car analogy...maybe not the best...but you should have gotten the idea.
Adam, you are closer to the target...but not spot on either.
Listen...if the people at ATI take the time to write drivers with XYZ features....why cant people who shell out a lot of cash use XYZ features IF THEY CHOOSE TO????
Why can you only use X and Z because soon as you turn Y on ...it hoses your box?
And furthermore...perhaps fastwrites dont increase performance YET....(on some machines) but you amazing Kreskin's out there who have a crystal ball and can see into the future simply astound me. What about TOMORROWS software? Are you telling me that they wont help then? You guys need to invest in the stock market. Foresee trends....

What is so hard to understand about using all the features a person pays for? No where at all on the Radeons box did it mention that a person may or may not be able to utilize all the features of this card. Thats all I'm saying.


mike gaydos May 17, 2003, 12:05pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Oh....and by the way....I solved my problem too.
I RMA'd the f**kin' 9500 pro that caused me nothing but grief and aggravation and got the 9800 pro.
Slipped it in the slot...works EXACTLY like it was designed to do. Fastwrites...8x...the whole enchilada.
That is what ALL you people should expect from the 9500/9700 pro. Was that asking too much from the 9700/9500?? Just to work?

Dmitri Filonov May 17, 2003, 12:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Damn stupid :p
FastWrite is f**king nothing... And u just happy when u see that FastWrite ON... U need just this damn ON? :))
I care only about speed and stable board... btw air cond.. give u more then FW gives u NOTHING!!! Just try to understand that :p

mike gaydos May 17, 2003, 12:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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OK...now we are resorting to name calling.
You try to understand something Dmitri....and I'm going to say this loud and clear for you.

******IT IS NOT A MATTER OF FAST WRITES BEING FASTER, BETTER, OR ANYTHING. IT IS SIMPLY A MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO USE THE FEATURE IF YOU CHOOSE TO. DO YOU GET THAT? ********

So what if it does nothing for you or not. SO WHAT?
it is there...and If I want to click the little box...that is MY choice.

Why would ATI include a feature in their drivers for nothing? Just so it will crash your box? doubt it...

Will TOMORROWS software utilize this feature and take advantage of it? who can say for sure. Certainly not you, Dmitri.

and for the last time.....there is no need to resort to getting ugly. This thread was designed to help people work out issues. If you want to get into a p**sing contest, you need to do that in person, not cowering behind a computer.





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