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Saif Ullah Mar 21, 2009, 02:30pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Problem: My vaio will try to load BIOS, just a glimps of Vaio logo and will go dead.
Machine: PCG-TR1 (yes, very old one)
History: - DC power jack was broken months ago
- Didn't use the laptop for months
- recently replaced the DC jack & upgraded RAM
- battery light now shows it is charging
- I suspect the battery is super dead
- BUT should it not work on AC Adoptor?
What I've done so far? - Tried taking memory sticks out, one by one. Didn't make any difference
- Can't really do anything else as computer does not even go beyond Vaio logo

Any ideas what is going on with it?

Thanks,

Saif

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philtec Mar 23, 2009, 03:00pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Try booting the computer into Safe Mode first. To boot into Safe Mode, shut down your computer, then as it restarts, press F8. Use the arrow keys to highlight the option to boot into Safe Mode.Or highlight boot to last known good configuration.(try this first)

Rich H Mar 30, 2009, 03:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-V505DX that is roughly 5 years old. Recently, I have been having a problem where, unless in Safe Mode on an Admin account, the system refuses to allow any of my other accounts log on, instead forcing them to stall on the sign-in screen, while the computer makes a rhythmic ticking noise. I tried talking to a Sony rep, and both of his suggestions(resetting the BIOS to default settings and using System Restore) have not worked. Can someone help me fix this, if possible?

Laptop Willie Mar 30, 2009, 06:26pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Rich H said:
Hi. I have a Sony Vaio PCG-V505DX that is roughly 5 years old. Recently, I have been having a problem where, unless in Safe Mode on an Admin account, the system refuses to allow any of my other accounts log on, instead forcing them to stall on the sign-in screen, while the computer makes a rhythmic ticking noise. I tried talking to a Sony rep, and both of his suggestions(resetting the BIOS to default settings and using System Restore) have not worked. Can someone help me fix this, if possible?

Rich,
The ticking sound is more than likely your hard drive. I would try replacing it before you loose any important data. You should at least back up the data more often. (you do backup don't you?) :)
Any amount of BIOS changing or software restore will not correct a hardware problem.

Good luck and Let us know how it goes.

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S. Johns Mar 30, 2009, 06:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Does this model BIOS autoconfig the HDD?
Just a thought, the CMOS battery might have died and things revert back to a 10Gb HDD or so - def will not boot unless you manually set to your HDD spec or AUTO

Daniel McCorry Apr 01, 2009, 08:02pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I'm having a similar problem. I press the power button and the LED lights up as normal, but I get no other resonse other than a black screen and the silent hum of my hardrive. I have a Sony VAIO VGN-N320E only about two years old. Any suggestions on what to do?

J Yang Apr 02, 2009, 07:24am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 02, 2009, 10:58pm EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Hey all,

Yet another nail in Sony's coffin....
I have had a look through this thread, but there's so much that while the answer may lie within, I've probably missed it.

I was recently given a Sony Vaio VGN-FS38GP. It ran without any problems for a few months, then one day last week, it just wouldn't boot.

- Nothing appears on the screen at all (no bios,post,boot screens, not even a flicker...)
- Power Light stays on
- Hard drive spins up and the HDD light is on for ~20 seconds
- I've had the case off and the chips get warm,sometimes the CPU fan will spin for a few seconds
- I've yet to clean the RAM with alcohol/compressed air, but i have tried the pressure tricks to no avail.
- I can't see any busted capacitors, solder joints or wires, nor can i see any scorching
- I have checked the major (and most of the minor) connections
- I have swapped out the HDD and RAM with no luck.
- I have tried most/all of these with power and/or battery.

Does anyone have any further suggestions or ideas of what it could be?

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!

J Yang Apr 02, 2009, 07:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 02, 2009, 10:56pm EDT

 
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Sorry for the double post

Daniel McCorry Apr 02, 2009, 04:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hmmm.. I've been searching around and found a possible solution. After taking apart your broken VAIO Laptop (which happens to be a pain), try removing the lithium battery on the motherboard and then put it back in after 30 seconds. This will reset the CMOS back to factory default settings. I haven't tried this yet, but I'm in the process of taking my laptop apart right now.

Warning: Taking apart your machine may go against your warranty. :(

I'll update you guys later about my results.

Laptop Willie Apr 03, 2009, 04:46pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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J Yang said:
Hey all,

Yet another nail in Sony's coffin....
I have had a look through this thread, but there's so much that while the answer may lie within, I've probably missed it.

I was recently given a Sony Vaio VGN-FS38GP. It ran without any problems for a few months, then one day last week, it just wouldn't boot.

- Nothing appears on the screen at all (no bios,post,boot screens, not even a flicker...)
- Power Light stays on
- Hard drive spins up and the HDD light is on for ~20 seconds
- I've had the case off and the chips get warm,sometimes the CPU fan will spin for a few seconds
- I've yet to clean the RAM with alcohol/compressed air, but i have tried the pressure tricks to no avail.
- I can't see any busted capacitors, solder joints or wires, nor can i see any scorching
- I have checked the major (and most of the minor) connections
- I have swapped out the HDD and RAM with no luck.
- I have tried most/all of these with power and/or battery.

Does anyone have any further suggestions or ideas of what it could be?

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!

There a couple of thing that could be going on here. 1) You may have toggled the LCD off. 2) There may be a back-light problem. Either a bad bulb or a bad inverter.
Try connecting to an external monitor and see if you have video there. Try looking at the LCD with a bright light to see if there is video on it.
Let us know how it goes.

Laptop Willie
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S. Johns Apr 06, 2009, 01:08am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a question for Laptop Willie as he seems to know alot about Sonys. I have a GRX-560, 1.6Ghz P4 with no HDD and No mem. I got a HD of 40Gb to use and have been told the 460 uses 'special' memory. What is the max HDD size I can use, what MEM can I buy and what is the MAX the 560 will take... and can I replace the CPU and get 2.2Ghz out of it?

Thanks!
btw: My wifes laptop went dark and although we can see the display under bright light - the Invertere and/or bulb is shot. It is a Winbook W300 and I can find no one that offers these repl parts for them. Maybe someone here can help?

philtec Apr 06, 2009, 05:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Look up my posts.

Laptop Willie Apr 06, 2009, 11:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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S. Johns,
Sony is a little vague on their memory installation. I found this disclaimer in their manual.

"About Adding Memory
Depending on the configuration you purchased, your computer may accept
additional memory modules. For information about installation procedures, refer
to the online User Guide and print those relevant steps. The supplied
Specifications flyer lists the amount of memory installed, and required memory
modules for upgrades."


However, Sony lists two types of memory for this model. It has a 512 KB Cache Memory that is located under the keyboard, and two memory slots on the bottom side of the laptop. The two on the bottom side are user replacement memory and may have as much as 512MB. That is one 256MB in each slot. The memory type should be DDR SDRAM (256x1).

While it comes with a 30GB HDD, I see no reason why 40GB wouldn’t work just fine. Just be sure the BIOS will handle it. ( I haven’t checked into this).

Up grading to a 2.2GB CPU- I have up graded some laptops with just this configuration, but not the Sony. I wouldn’t think there would be a problem. Just be sure to use heat sync compound when reinstalling the heat exchanger.


WINBOOK W300 LAPTOP LCD SCREEN 15.4" WXGA
I would think the most likely problem is the backlight.

You should be able to get the LCD for around $80. If you are using eBay, please be sure the feedback is above 98%. The LCD should be an easy replacement for you.

Laptop Willie
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S. Johns Apr 06, 2009, 12:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 06, 2009, 02:31pm EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Based on your most positive response, I found this:
The only significant downsides are that it is on the heavy side and the BIOS limits RAM to 512MB of PC2100 DDR. (Is there a BIOS U/G I can also do?)

Sony Vaio PCG-GRX560

Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 1.60GHz-M Upgraded to P4M 2.2Ghz
supports Intel® Enhanced SpeedStep™ technology2

Memory
512 KB integrated on-die level 2

Bus Speed
400 MHz

DDR SDRAM
256 MB DDR SDRAM (256x1), expandable to 512 MB Upgraded to 512MB (Can it go 1Gb?)

Hard Drive
Removable 30 GB hard drive Upgraded to 40GB

Well They did it, so I shuld be able to as well. Considering I currently have no memory or HDD, I'll get those in and configured first and working 100% before I try to 'tweak' the CPU ;-)

I also plan to UG and add built-in Wireless if possible (if not, then USB or PCMCIA) and definitely go to a 60 - 120/160 HDD if Poss. Maybe all too large for BIOS? dunno yet..

Anyone else UG their -560 that can you offer any assistance?

Thanks!

S. Johns Apr 06, 2009, 12:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Chart I found:
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processors – M
Core
Speed
(GHz) Chipsets
Supported External
Bus
Speed
(MHz) L2
Cache Thermal
Design
Power Voltage†† Tcase Package Product Number

2.2 Intel 845E 400 512KB 35 watts 1.3V 100C Micro-FC-PGA 478 RH80532GC049512††

1.7 Intel 845E 400 512KB 35 watts 1.3V 100C Micro-FC-PGA 478 RH80532GC029512††

†† Please note that the Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor - M for Embedded Computing at 1.7 GHz and 2.2 GHz are the same products as the Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor - M at 1.7/1.2 GHz and 2.2/1.2 GHz respectively.

Because the Embedded Intel Architecture Group does not support Intel Speedstep® Technology for the Intel® Pentium® 4 Processors - M, additional design guidelines must be followed to operate the processors at the 1.7 GHz or 2.2 GHz speeds. Please refer to the Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor and Intel® 845E Chipset Platform Design Guide for additional design guidelines.

Soooooo I'll need part# RH80532GC049512 which supports 'Speedstep', Right? They are ~$30-50.00 right now, so I'll order one, but wait until my 560 is 100% before I install.

btw: Is that EZ, or do I need an PACE Micro-Vac or SMD/HotAir desoldering station?

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Edited: Apr 06, 2009, 01:11pm EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
MUCH Better chart- Courtesy of Wikipedia of course!

This tells me it might be possible to go a lot higher than 2.2 as I'd planned, but there is always the possibility that the Wiki editors (you and me) missed something. According to this chart, everything remains the same from the 1.4Ghz to the 2.6Ghz CPU except the SPEED and Part No. Is this right??

The Intel 'normal' P4 CPU-range indicates FSB requirements of 400, 533, 600 and 800, and that just may be the case here too. I'll just have to see what I can find out, then do what I have to do based on that information ;-)

Remember, 4-M fully supports Speedstep and runs at ~8 to 35w as opposed to normal Pentium4 of 80Watts which is a lot less work for your battery, and a lot less work for your cooling system(s)

Here's the chart!

Processor: Pentium 4-M

aka:Northwood (130 nm)
All models support: MMX, SSE, SSE2

Model Number Frequency L2-Cache FSBus Multiplier Voltage Min/Max TDP Socket Release Date Part Number(s)

Pentium 4-M 1.4 1400MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 14× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/25.8W Socket 478 April 23, 2002 RH80532GC017512

Pentium 4-M 1.5 1500MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 15× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/26.9W Socket 478 April 23, 2002 RH80532GC021512

Pentium 4-M 1.6 1600MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 16× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/30W Socket 478 March 4, 2002 RH80532GC025512

Pentium 4-M 1.7 1700MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 17× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/30W Socket 478 March 4, 2002 RH80532GC029512

Pentium 4-M 1.8 1800MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 18× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/30W Socket 478 April 23, 2002 RH80532GC033512

Pentium 4-M 1.9 1900MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 19× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/32W Socket 478 June 24, 2002 RH80532GC037512

Pentium 4-M 2.0 2000MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 20× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/32W Socket 478 June 24, 2002 RH80532GC041512

Pentium 4-M 2.2 2200MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 22× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/35W Socket 478 September 16, 2002 RH80532GC049512

Pentium 4-M 2.4 2400MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 24× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/35W Socket 478 January 14, 2003 RH80532GC056512

Pentium 4-M 2.5 2500MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 25× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/35W Socket 478 April 16, 2003 RH80532GC060512

Pentium 4-M 2.6 2600MHz 512KiB 400MT/s 26× 1.2/1.3V 20.8/35W Socket 478 May ?? 2002 RH80532GC064512

Comments anyone? Like I said, FSB, L2 Cache and pinouts all appear to be same so a swap should (?) work. I am SO inclined to try the RH80532GC064512 :D

Cheers!

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Edited: Apr 06, 2009, 06:00pm EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
It would appear that you have been doing a lot of research, as have I. I found that there are two BIOS for this model. R0216B0 and R0220B0. Naturally they don't tell you what they are for. So you'll have to check against what is loaded to see if there is an upgrade and insure you have the correct BIOS. The instructions for installation are very good. Best of luck.

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Anay Gan Apr 06, 2009, 05:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

I have a PCG K23. It stopped working few days ago. Before dying I got an error message "No operating system" found. Now it does not boot at all. All I can see is after pressing the power buttons that all the LEDs flash once in starting sequence and nothing happens. Neither the fans start nor the hard disk. Seems like it even doesnt get to the bios.

I tried to clean the system. Removed all the components even upto heat sink and cpu and reassembled everything atleast 4 to 5 times. But the problem stil persists. Any ideas what would have gone wrong?

Thanks in advance.

Anay

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S.John,
To upgrade your laptop you first need to update the Bios to the latest version. I think with your model you can use up to P4, 2.4 ghz CPU with 478 pin 400 FSB and make sure you don't loose on the cache so stay at 512 KB. Now with the higher CPU you will need to change the fan and heat sink as you will burn the existing fan rather quickly and the CPU will always run hot. The 2.4 ghz cpu takes a three pipe heat sink and yours has two pipes only.
Now that you may obtain a bigger heat sink and fan, you will have a problem with the layout to fit the fan in the same space and be able to close the plastic properly. So I recommend you stay within the layout and use the 2.2 ghz. with the same specs as above.

As to the hard drive, your new Bios released in 2003 should support more than 120 gig of space. So you can be generous with the hard drive. Speaking of hard drives, you should consider the hard drive rpm and 5400 is the right speed otherwise the laptop will not be as fast as you want it to be.

As to the memory, I think you can upgrade each slot to 512 mb PC2100/2700 - DDR266 that is of course if they both have good contact and are not failing. Keep in mind that higher memory will generate more heat in this area.So bigger is not always better. Memory is only dependable on how many applications you will use at any given time and the video at 32 mb does not drain much memory.

You seem to be having fun with this laptop and I hope this info help.

Cheers,
Mike




Anay Gan Apr 06, 2009, 11:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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This is getting even more interesting. My laptop starts for 1 sec and stops if I remove the heat sink and try to boot it. If I place the heat sink back again it fails to even boot for 1 sec.
Is it the heat sink faulty or is the system designed like that if the heat sink is not present the computer will not boot at all?? Any ideas??



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