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Daniel Persson Jul 14, 2004, 12:47pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Okay, Joe, considering the facts I have give you, do you think it is any idea I send my computer to you?
I can not test another CPU in it, and as you say there can me so many problems, memory, cooling system or voltage.

But tell me what you honestly think, is it worth it sending it to you?

Greetings
Daniel

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Preston Lewis Jul 14, 2004, 01:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
One more quick Q...

I guess I'll purchase a new hard drive and hope that solves my problem. My only question is that I can purchase a 80gb Vaio hard drive on eBay for around 100 dollars, but, its 4200RPMs. Theres another one on eBay for 100 dollars more, and its 5200RPMs. Is the difference worth the money, noticeable difference?

Joe K Jul 15, 2004, 09:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Dan,

Before you send the laptop to us, check how much shipping charges will be to and from here. That will be the only real investment you will make if the system is not repairable.

It's up to you if you want to send your laptop in to us for repair. We need the system to show the fault (which it sounds like it is) when it arrives here. There are many people with the vaio 505 series with intermittent problems. These are impossible to repair because we don't have that kind of time to devote to a system that works for a day or two then stops, then we "think" we repaired the problem and invest yet another day or two or three to find out we didn't..

Anyway, your problem sounds like it's pretty consistent. There is always the possibility we cannot fix your GRZ. In that event you are not charged anything but return shipping costs. I'm sorry if I sound vague, but I have to make these statements because you're sending this from overseas and I would imagine you are pretty hopeful that we WILL repair your system. Please keep in mind that I'm pretty hopeful we CAN repair your system, but we are not miracle workers and in some cases we cannot repair the system.

To increase our chance for success, please be sure the problem is persistent.


Joe Kabalan
AQS Computer Services
2572 Sheridan Drive
Tonawanda, NY 14150

Toll Free: 1-866-204-4677
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http://www.aqstech.com
http://www.laptopbios.com

Joe Kabalan
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Laptop / Notebook BIOS Repair
Motherboard Defect Solutions
Tom M'Guinn Jul 15, 2004, 11:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 15, 2004, 11:57pm EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Just a quick word of praise for Joe K. I called him last Friday about my Vaio no-boot problem, after finding this thread. He answered directly -- no voice menu hell -- and sized up the problem on the phone in minutes. I sent my laptop to him on Friday (cross country) -- he fixed it and got it back in my hand in less than a week -- at fraction of the cost that Sony wanted!

ALL HAIL JOE.... He da Man!

Tom Pappas Jul 16, 2004, 10:16am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Preston Lewis:

The rotational speed of a hard drive has very little to do with the speed that data can be read and written on a particular computer. This is absolutely limited by the speed of the IDE bus. If your mother board has an ATA66 bus, rotating the disk faster won't magically turn it into an ATA133. Fast drives allow designers to push the bus speed, but swapping in a faster drive won't improve data transfer in a given computer.

Much. There may be slight gains to be realized in getting data into the drive's buffer faster, but they are miniscule compared to the bottleneck represented by the bus speed.

It has been said that faster RPMs yield lower rotational latency (bringing the data under the heads faster), but I have never seen the effect of this adequately documented. In any event, the gain is marginal, and hardly worth that $100 increment.

Having said all that, it should be pointed out that faster track-to-track access time can have a noticeable effect, particularly in loading large files that require a lot of repositioning of the head. If the 4200RPM drive's figure is, say, 12ms and the 5200's is 7ms, you might get your money's worth anyway.

Tom Pappas
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Joe K Jul 17, 2004, 11:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 18, 2004, 09:30am EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Hello,

A little advise for everyone. If you must insert an "object" of some kind to get your memory/laptop working again... I would suggest that you do not place the object directly on the RAM chip themselves, that only makes the problem worse, if you look at the RAM chip in relation to the socket, you are actually helping lift the whole socket away from the motherboard by applying pressure "pushing" the RAM chip toward the motherboard.

If you place the "shrink warp" or other object on the connector itself, that is the only way you'll be effective in getting the pins of the connector to make contact with the motherboard.

I don't recommend you use this pressure fix for a long period of time, the DIMM slots should be repaired as soon as possible, not only can you cause damage to the socket, but also if you put too much pressure from the bottom (as described above) you will also effect the components on the top side of the motherboard.

So, here is what I suggest. If you're going to do the pressure fix, do it as a temporary fix, also don't apply too much force and add more force with the plastic memory door, you're just asking for trouble. Place the plastic or rubber (certainly not metal or foil as Tom describes at the bottom of page 18) object on either end of the problem socket (the plastic part) not on the RAM chip.

Hope this helps.


Joe Kabalan
AQS Computer Services
2572 Sheridan Drive
Tonawanda, NY 14150

Toll Free: 1-866-204-4677
Local: 716-832-2473
Email: aqs12@adelphia.net

http://www.aqstech.com
http://www.laptopbios.com

Joe Kabalan
http://www.AQSTech.com
Laptop / Notebook BIOS Repair
Motherboard Defect Solutions
Sean B Jul 18, 2004, 05:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a Sony Vaio PCG-FX150. it has run pretty good the last four years or so. I wake up this morning and plug in the power cord, press the power on button and nothing. no sounds, no fans, no LEDs. By Giving it a few taps, now when I plug it in, The power, and both battery, LED's will slowly light up and get to full brightness. power switch is still dead. I tried the reset button on the bottom, holding it down, nothing. I tried removing my second memory chip, but still nothing. Removed the battery too. I don't think it's my memory, It must be a slightly different problem then what the rest of you are experiencing. I seen someone else post this same problem on page 5 or so, however no one replied. I have a factory 128mb card in slot one and a second 128mb card in slot 2. It has run great since I bought it. Just last week I backed up all my important stuff on an external drive, I'm glad I did. I was planning on reformatting the laptop today.. and now this happens.

Sean B Jul 18, 2004, 05:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Update to the above post!, As I had completely given up, I unplugged the laptop and came over to my desktop to write out my problem. about 20 minutes later, last ditch effort I put the power cable back in and it fired right up! no memory issues whatsoever. I think my laptop seen I was ready to join the lawsuit thing and that scared it into working again. lol.

Tom Pappas Jul 18, 2004, 11:41pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The fact that the symptoms change when you plug and unplug the power, along with the battery anomaly, suggests that your computer might have a problem seen all too often. The solder joints that hold the power jack can break loose, causing an intermittent or completely open connection. The solution is to disassemble the machine down to the mother board and re-solder or replace the jack.

Tom Pappas
http://www.vaioshutdown.com

Volvick Derose Jul 19, 2004, 10:50am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
I do have a GRX-560 with the same problem. I called Sony couple of times; they even sent me a fedex box to send the laptop. The problem I have, I donít have a receipt to fax them. I wonder if I can get a receipt from someone on this board. It seems like they know about the problem, but they said in order for them to make a repair, someone must have a receipt.

I tried a lot of steps, but none of them worked. I went to COMPUSA and Best Buy to try some memories, none of them worked. I also press the RAM on the slot, but did not work as well. My GRX-560 came with only 256Meg of ram. I swap them slot, but did not work.

I got the computer from a friend. He as never used it. He had only used it to play solitaire. The compute looks new. While I get the box, if someone can fax me a receipt, I can use it to send the computer to Sony. My fax number is 801.992.8494. They told me it doesnít matter, as longer I prove a receipt, they will fix it.

Thanks in advance

Wing Wong Jul 20, 2004, 12:54pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi,

I've got the same memory problems with my GRX-570. In the first 4 months I've had it the power button wouldn't work. Sent it back and they fixed it, but then the speakers wouldn't work. Took it apart myself and turns out they screwed up the ribbon cable.

2 years later, I notice that the notebook wasn't performing like it used to. I noticed that it was only showing half of it's 512 memory. Swapped and played around with the memory and got it to show the full 512.

Few months later the notebook wouldn't even start, call tech support and they were useless. Telling me they could do nothing as my warranty was out.

Searched the net and came across a few threads regarding Sony notebooks, it's unfortunate the sony won't stand behind their products. As I WAS a loyal Sony consumer.

Recently bought an HP pavillion 7180 and couldn't be happier, but I'm gonna give Joe a call and see if will fix my Vaio.

Just thought I'd throw in my 2cents

Joe K Jul 20, 2004, 10:46pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello everyone,

This info is for the "do it yourself-ers" out there. Unfortunately some of you know that once you remove the power button bar from the GRX / GRV / GRS you run the risk of ruining or fraying the power button and memory reader cables rendering them useless. Sony wants a ridicules amount for these replacement cables.

We are now actually manufacturing a better version of these cables, not only are our cables constructed better, but we have an "FC-20 series" cable that will resist end lead lift. Also, our cables are priced much less than Sony.


http://www.aqstech.com/cable.html


Joe Kabalan
AQS Computer Services
2572 Sheridan Drive
Tonawanda, NY 14150

Toll Free: 1-866-204-4677
Local: 716-832-2473
Email: aqs12@adelphia.net

http://www.aqstech.com
http://www.laptopbios.com

Joe Kabalan
http://www.AQSTech.com
Laptop / Notebook BIOS Repair
Motherboard Defect Solutions
Daniel Persson Jul 21, 2004, 02:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot?
Joe,

The cables won't fit the GRZ630 or?

Greetings
Daniel

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Jul 21, 2004, 03:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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if it doesnt boot call Tech Support and let them deal with it.

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Joe K Jul 21, 2004, 08:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hi Dan,

The power button cable should be the same, the memory reader cable is completely different than the one we offer.

Your memory reader cable is the same as the PCG-GR model, the GRZ is actually quite similar to the GR.

Joe K

Joe Kabalan
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Laptop / Notebook BIOS Repair
Motherboard Defect Solutions
Atif Sheik Jul 27, 2004, 03:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a Sony Vaio PCG-GRX550 that has been giving me boot problems as mentioned on this site. I called Sony but got no results. Hope Sony will do something to resolve this issue a.s.a.p

Meanwhile I encourage everyone on this forum to take out a minute of their time and send complaints against Sony Corporation for its faliure to acknowledge its fault and for not doing enough to readicate this problem for its consumers.

http://www.complaints.com/

https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

http://www.alexanderlaw.com/nccc/

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/complaintsearch.cfm

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/

http://www.econsumer.gov/english/index.html

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/complaints.html

http://www.ag.state.mn.us/consumer/complaint.html

http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft/index.html

http://caag.state.ca.us/consumers/mailform.htm


Pascal Obry Jul 28, 2004, 07:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I had the same problem. I was very happy to find this thread, it is always nice to see that you are not
alone. I'm in France near Paris. I have send messages to some electronic shop in Paris.... I never got a
response!!! How nice service is in France :(

Anyway to give hope to people in the same situation, here is what I have done (as many others). I have
sent my Sony VAIO GRX516SP to Joe Kabalan usingDHL (it cost me 108Ä) on july 20. It arrived on july
22nd and was fixed by Joe the same day. I got it this morning (july 28). Both slots have been repaired and
I'm sending this message from my Sony VAIO. The repair + shiping (POST Express) cost me 214$ (paid
using a Paypal account).

So definitly this was fast (7 days without my computer) and far less expenssive than the Sony repair.

I want to thanks Joe Kabalan for its excellent work done on my Notebook and all other Notebooks and
for all the helps it has given on this forum. This is invaluable! Thanks a zillion time Joe.

Pascal.

Adam Bartells Jul 29, 2004, 02:49pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I figured I'd jump on board and list myself among the Vaio victims. A few weeks ago my computer crashed on me, I restarted and then it froze completely. When I tried to restart it, it wouldn't even begin the boot. The green light came on, the DVD light flashed and that was it. After some research, I found post suggesting reseating the memory so I pulled them out and put them back in to no avail. Then I removed one of the memory cards and it started up. Jubilant, I tried to reinstall the other stick and it wouldn't boot again. I then tried both memory sticks in each slot and determined the memory cards (both 256) are fine, but the rear memory bay is bad (as I've seen numerous other people conclude on this thread). It is running (painfully slow) on 256kb right now, but I have 3 months left on my Best Buy 3 year warranty. I have been tempted to leave well enough alone and be thankful it still works, but it sounds like only a matter of time before the other bay fails as well. I am in the process of backing up all my data and files (a formidable job after having a computer for almost 3 years) but I was wondering what response people had received about this problem in response to warranties and service plans. Obviously my feeling is if they can't fix the problem I am entitled to a replacement computer. I appreciate the information you all have provided and if anyone does begin a class action lawsuit, I'm all in.

Tom Pappas Jul 29, 2004, 03:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Pascal -

I'm glad to hear you got your machine repaired. Too bad I didn't know you had a problem, or I would have fixed it when I was in Paris earlier this month. We could have spent your shipping on a few rounds of 1664!

Oh, well - c'est la vie!

Tom Pappas
http://www.vaioshutdown.com

Brian Lew Aug 01, 2004, 07:54am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Aug 01, 2004, 07:56am EDT

 
>> Re: Sony Vaio laptop wont boot? don't get mad, get EVEN!
I've finally given up, thrown in the towel, and considered my $3,000 (US) investment in a portable computer is now a BOAT ANCHOR.

http://www.dogboydesigns.com/SonySucks/VAIO-SUCKS.htm


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