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SuPeR Xp Mar 14, 2006, 05:10pm EST Report Abuse


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Supreet Virdi Mar 14, 2006, 05:15pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
Holy man!

Now that's what I call Info, amazing work SuperXP. AMD is looking more and more positive with its approach lately, right from the day they released AthlonXP, they've earned amazing reputation of making some classy Processors, not to mention, they did provide Unlocked multiplier in the begning with XP Barton 2500+ and few other chips, which seems to be the top choice among enthusiasts all over the world.

AMD with AM2 is looking even better, and I am sure it will be another HUGE success. I am with AMD! :D

Atleast NOW! :)

SuPeR Xp Mar 14, 2006, 05:15pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
"eNiGMA technology - which he claims is really based on the Pentium III with a dash of the Pentium 4."

Now what does this statement really mean? I mean the Conroe do look impressive in performance & power, & I understand why Intel is still messing with there age old FSB, but if it is only based on the P3 & P4, that don't impress me one bit.

I think people need more then that, something newer in technology IMO,

State your Opinion Please :)

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SuPeR Xp Mar 14, 2006, 05:16pm EST Report Abuse
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Yes, I had the Athlon XP-M 2500+ OC'ed to 2.60 GHz - My system was untouchable at the time LOL, great little gaming rig though :)

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Josh Mar 14, 2006, 05:18pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
Looks good, except for the fact that all the links are to the einquirer. What they say might be true, but I wouldn't trust just them.

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Supreet Virdi Mar 14, 2006, 05:19pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
LOL Conroe?

Fine, its a fine chip, but let's compare it to AM2? that's more like valid comparison?..

SuPeR Xp Mar 14, 2006, 05:23pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
"Looks good, except for the fact that all the links are to the einquirer. What they say might be true, but I wouldn't trust just them."

I understand Josh, but just to clarify, the inquirer's track record is over 95% correct :) This is why there info is vital to the industry. They are renoun for there website & info.

Plus the CEO of the inquirer writes for CPU Magazine. His name is Mike Magee, a friend of mine :)

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Josh Mar 14, 2006, 05:29pm EST Report Abuse
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"Plus the CEO of the inquirer writes for CPU Magazine. His name is Mike Magee, a friend of mine"
A friend as in you know him personally, or you just like what he writes?

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Supreet Virdi Mar 14, 2006, 05:33pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
Inquirer is a trusted source. Untill now what they've said about ATI/NVIDIA/AMD/INTEL is correct. And who else makes Articles so fast besides Inquirer?

Sean Costello Mar 14, 2006, 05:39pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
"CPU Magazine"
damn good magazine too bad i havent gotten any magazines when i subscribed to them not one single issue, $20 that could have gone to soemthing else :(

but yeah Inquirer is great, good info Super :D

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SuPeR Xp Mar 14, 2006, 06:45pm EST Report Abuse
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We keep in touch vai email once in a wile, but I am very bussy & so is he>

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Sean Costello Mar 14, 2006, 06:56pm EST Report Abuse
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if i dont get my magazines *hits fist into palm* grrr lol

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A_Pickle Mar 14, 2006, 07:16pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
I think the Conroe benchmarks are legitimate, and until you can provide proof to the contrary, I will continue to. AM2 is nice and all, but I think it's funny how even after preliminary tests and the observed opinions of three tech sites (Hardware Analysis, Anandtech and Tom's Hardware Guide) indicating that AM2 won't be a wonderful cure-all to anything and everything Intel has cooking up is just foolish.

AM2 is providing AMD chips with more bandwidth and lower latency -- and as we've seen in the past (specifically, the move from Socket 754 to Socket 939) more bandwidth has never really helped AMD chips. It becomes less a question of "Where's the bandwidth," and more of "What to do with all this bandwidth?" Added to that, it's now disadvantaged by the latencies of DDR2. I must concede -- Super XP, DDR2 "suxx big time" for AMD chips. Even tech sites agree with me.

Six hardware sites concur that Conroe looks pretty damn good. The Tech Report, Anandtech, Hexus, PC Perspective, Bit-Tech.net, HotHardware and X-Bit Labs, specifically.

Three hardware sites concure that Socket AM2 will NOT be the cure-all every AMD fanboy and their mom is hoping for. Tom's Hardware Guide, Anandtech and now Hardware Analysis. Added to that, AMD's socket AM2 will be delayed 'til July now.

No disrespect intended, but I think Intel's gonna take back the lead this year.

-Pikl

Sean Costello Mar 14, 2006, 07:31pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
"AMD fanboy and their mom"
i dont think my mom even knows what a processor is

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B Mar 14, 2006, 07:57pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
There's no point in discussing something like this. Only time will tell. Its like discussing what could happen a year from now. Just be patient and everybody's questions will be answered. :)

SuPeR Xp Mar 14, 2006, 08:14pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
I agree also that the Conroe looks quite impressive indead. I never said it does not.

Now I thing there is something missing here, because AMD is keeping there CPU technologies behind closed doors & not letting anybody in. The CEO of AMD also claims that they already have an answer to Intel's Meron & Conroe & all other new CPU's Intel is releasing.

So, with that said, if indead Intel comes out with faster CPU's then AMD or vis-versa they will be both competative.

"Socket AM2 will NOT be the cure-all every AMD fanboy and their mom is hoping for."

What's with that term FanBoy? no more of that O.K. :)

In regards to the AM2 & DDR2, well there is talk that the AM2 will also support DDR3 which is much better then DDR & DDR2 anyway, so there is support which matters big time.

As for those Intel Benchmarks, all the review sites used systems which were configured by Intel, and there forI do not find 100% credible. The same goes for any company which releases benchmarks.

And Tom's Hardware Guild are a bunch of retards IMO, they know nothing about how to benchamrk at all.

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Sean Costello Mar 14, 2006, 08:24pm EST Report Abuse
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"And Tom's Hardware Guild are a bunch of retards IMO"

im not a fan of them either

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Greg M Mar 14, 2006, 09:03pm EST Report Abuse
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I'm really hoping, but not too confident, that AMD will release the AM2 at higher speeds and work on a way to get the DDR2 latencies down.

Right now, it looks like Intel will be taking the lead in the gaming department. However, we will have to wait until Conroe is released to know for sure. I am just keeping my fingers crossed that AMD has an answer that will come out before or just after Conroe to keep them competitive. If not, my next gaming machine will hold a Conroe! :(

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Pirate Mar 14, 2006, 09:05pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
Another BS thread.

Josh Mar 14, 2006, 09:31pm EST Report Abuse
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"I'm really hoping, but not too confident, that AMD will release the AM2 at higher speeds and work on a way to get the DDR2 latencies down."
That really isn't up to AMD. The RAM companies are the ones responsible for the loose timings.

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A_Pickle Mar 14, 2006, 09:44pm EST Report Abuse
>> Re: FACT OR FICTION 2 - AMD vs. Intel ;)
I'm understandably curious as to why it's such a terrible thing to have an Intel chip for gaming. Or a better-performing Intel chip.

-Pikl


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