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Patrick Buckner Apr 25, 2006, 08:45am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello.

First off, I checked the FAQs and I found similar topics about my question, but nothing explaining my question. Also, if this isn't the right forum, I'm sorry. I looked at 18 to 20 DVD-R topics and they were posted in 5 or 6 different forums. This forum was used the most.

Ok. Here we go. I was given a Emerson DVD/VHS Recorder. I was also given a 100 spindle of TDK PrintOn DVD-R 8x compatible 4.7GB discs.

So far they have been working great, no problems at all. I want to purchase some more, but I live in a very small town and the closest place to find them is 100 miles away. A friend of mine said she would pick some up for me, but all she could find were 16x.

According to the owner's manual, discs which can be used with this recorder are:
"DVD-R up to 16x (4x or 8x discs are recommended)"
"DVD-RW 2x and 4x (2x discs are recommended)"

So what's the difference between 8x and 16x?

Also. While I was looking online for a place to order some DVD-Rs, I seen DVD+Rs. I didn't see anything in the manual about +R. Which is best to use, -R or +R? and what is the difference?

Any help would be great.
Thank you for your time.
Patrick

PS.
Sorry for the long topic, but telling the whole story works best for me.



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A_Pickle Apr 25, 2006, 08:57am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
So what's the difference between 8x and 16x?


16x disks burn quite a bit faster.

Chris McNally Apr 25, 2006, 09:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Hi Patrick-welcome to HWA.

The only difference is the speed at which the discs can be written to, and the price. 16X should work fine with your recorder, be 8X discs will be cheaper.

DVD+R/+RW are a different format-if your drive does not support them, they won't work properly, so stick with the -R's.

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Dublin_Gunner Apr 25, 2006, 09:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
8x and 16x. What's the difference?



about 8x lol


What it means is that the 16x drive can burn a DVD (whatsh out for the advertising jargon) at 16x speeds, where as the 8x drive can only burn at half of that.

(1x is the speed a regular CD is read at / spins at in a CD player afaik)

The advertising jargon I speak of is sort of pulling the blinds over the truth in a lot of cases.

Some drives advertise (16x DVD burning) but this sometimes relates only to single sided, single layer DVDs, and possibly only in a certain format, such as DVD+R, nor -R or rewriteables.

Did you have any burners in mind? If so, could you link to them please?

**EDIT**

http://tomshardware.co.uk/2005/12/30/the_latest_dvd_writers_true_speeds/

Here's a decent article

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Patrick Buckner Apr 25, 2006, 09:19am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Oh ok. Of course now I see. Its the write speed. Just like CD burning speeds. I don't know why I didn't catch that. Still to much of a DVD rookie I guess. lol

DublinGunner.

I'm not going to buy any burners. In my topic I explained I was given a Emerson DVD/VHS recorder as a gift. But thanks for offering the help.

And thanks to the rest of you for your help.

Take care.
Patrick

Dublin_Gunner Apr 25, 2006, 10:05am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Sorry about that!!

But I can answer your question now.

Those blank DVDs you have will work at up to 8x write speed, providing the Burner being used, can indeed write at 8x or faster.

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eman ebrahim Jan 31, 2010, 01:47am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Hello everyone


and what about LG 8x externel Super Multi DVD writer??

Can I use it in burning DVD-R 16x?


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eman ebrahim Jan 31, 2010, 01:47am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello everyone


and what about LG 8x externel Super Multi DVD writer??

Can I use it in burning DVD-R 16x?


Thanks

Meats_Of_Evil Jan 31, 2010, 02:58am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
The drive will burn at the maximum speed which it supports, It doesn't matter what the disc speed is.

Then again, some media discs give troubles on certain drives. Just make sure it's of quality or a well known brand. No cheapo "never heard of them" brands.

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eman ebrahim Jan 31, 2010, 03:31am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Imation Brand 16x 120Min 4.7 GB.. Have you heard of it??


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eman ebrahim Jan 31, 2010, 03:33am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Imation Brand 16x 120Min 4.7 GB.. Have you heard of it??


Thanks

john albrich Jan 31, 2010, 07:30am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Meats_Of_Evil said:
The drive will burn at the maximum speed which it supports, It doesn't matter what the disc speed is.
Then again, some media discs give troubles on certain drives. Just make sure it's of quality or a well known brand. No cheapo "never heard of them" brands.


Given the nature of his post, I think a bit of clarification might help.

A drive is capable of burning a disc at the drive's highest rated yX "speed", however, most burn software limits the speed to whatever the disc supports (there are a few exceptions that let you tweak the speed).

For example, if you have a drive that supports burning DVD-R at up to 40X, but the disc itself has a maximum burn speed rating of 8X, then the drive is throttled to burn the disc at 8X or slower. Similarly for 16X disc.

In general, a disc capable of being "burned" at 16X will complete the job considerably faster than a disc rated at 8X (the 16X won't be precisely twice as fast as other factors enter into the "burn" process).

Additional information:
For technical reasons I generally advise against burning discs at their maximum rated speed, or at the maximum speed of the optical drive. This has to do with drive vibration, adaptive optics, laser control algorithms, and disc quality, disc chemistry, and more. Unless you're in a real hurry, I advise generally burning -R/+R CDs and DVDs at no more than 4X for maximum compatibility with other optical disc drives/players, and maximum data retention/reliability. If you're in a hurry, then burn at whatever within-ratings speed you desire.

john albrich Jan 31, 2010, 08:34am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
eman ebrahim said:
Imation Brand 16x 120Min 4.7 GB....


Re: Blank DVD quality ratings, here's one that updates their ratings from time to time.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/reviews/dvd-media.htm

Go down to the "Blank DVD Branding Data" section, see what manufacturer(s) Imation is "known" to use, and then check which quality tier the manufacturer(s) is listed.

You need to keep in mind that a disc vendor (the disc label, e.g. Imation) may change the manufacturing source of its media at any given time. What is highly rated one month may change in the next. Some brands are more consistent year-to-year from which manufacturers they get their media.

If you use a specific brand for awhile and then start having problems with it, it may be because the vendor changed who it gets the discs from. Some vendors source their media from multiple manufacturers, so it's also possible your last purchase came from a different manufacturer even though it has the same brand name label. As discussed in the article, it is possible to identify the manufacturer but only by having one of the discs in your computer so you can extract the data. It's not written on the packaging.

G. G. Jan 31, 2010, 09:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Add this utility -

http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/


along with john's website info.... This utility will identify the " Real " manufacture of the disc no matter what brand label it is under. From here you can look at the different tier level it resides which will tell you if you got a good media, so-so media, or ones to stay away from. This all boils down to reliability of your burns and longevity of the disc.


remember, there are many many brands/labels of media....... but there are only few "actual" manufactures of the media.


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Ron Bergeron Apr 06, 2010, 09:18am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
sorry to butt in, but just searched this topic and was happy to find an intelligent set of answers. thanks much. indeed i myself will begin burning at a 4x speed to avoid problems from now on. (tho i think my burning software may already automatically adjust to an acceptable speed - but i will double check next time... )

i do video work, and sometimes a client complains that their DVD isn't playing back correctly even after i've tested the master disc on both my PC and also on a crappy $25 DVD player. (i figure if it works on a p.o.s. Magnovox, it should work anywhere...?)

also, i didn't realize how archaic my DVD-ROM drive was (Toshiba SD-R5112 at 4X), so perhaps buying spindles of 16x is overkill, LOL!

thanks again.

Meats_Of_Evil Apr 07, 2010, 12:29am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: DVD-R 8x and 16x. What's the difference?
Wow that is caveman tech lol!

I burn at 20x or 16x most dvd's on my Lite-On Dvd burner, which I got for $40 something dollars when I bought it, now you can get them for much less and faster!

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=5&...VD-Burners

Also, I have one of those cheap dvd players that they sell at Sam's Club for like $25 and it reads all of my dvd's perfectly. Heck I think its even region free too.

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