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MARCELO CAHUENAS Jun 18, 2006, 09:05pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hello everyone:
I had Windows XP Home on my computer, and I installed Windows Vista (TM) Beta 1 (without a partition). Now I want to go back to my original OS. I can not find a restore point or another instruction to help me. I have not been able to access my files,please advise.
Thanks
Marcello


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Gerritt Jun 18, 2006, 09:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
This depends on wether you overwrote, or made a new directory for Vista.
If you overwrote, i.e. installed to the default directory, you will have to reinstall your original XP.
If you made a new directory for installation, such as C:\Vista vs. C:\Windows, you should be able to "fall back" through the modification of your C:\Boot.ini file so as to point to the earlier installation (C:\Windows).
Even if you did create a new install point, there have probably been changes made to your Program Files subdirectory that may require re-installation of previous software.

Good luck,

Gerritt

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MARCELO CAHUENAS Jun 18, 2006, 10:03pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
Thank you for your fast replay. I did try to install XP but it does not give me the option to install.
I refuse to beleive that my next step is to format my HD.

Gerritt Jun 18, 2006, 11:13pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
Set your bios to boot from the CDROM before HDD.
Insert your XP CDROM.
Go from there.
Gerritt

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B34NS Jun 18, 2006, 11:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jun 18, 2006, 11:26pm EDT

 
>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
reinstalling doen require formatting i am sorry if somone told you that. you can write over your old windows file as you are installing or you can choose to make a new folder for it tottally, reinstallign windows doesnt automatically format, you choose to format, your personal files even in your my docs will still be there desipte the warnings, by law windows cannot modify or delete your personal files in those folders when you reinstall just find yuor old usernme and copy the files over,,,,,,or if you didnt write over it then justmodify the boot.ini
hope this helps ( ive reinstalled windows too many times so this is form exp not from googling okay) sorry for bad spelling, oh wells, gerrit is giving you some good advice as well

angryhippy Jun 26, 2006, 04:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jun 26, 2006, 04:26pm EDT

 
>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
According to Microsoft on the Vista download page, in bold type:

"You can upgrade an existing installation of Windows XP.

No other installation scenarios are supported. Upgrading to this beta from any other edition of Windows requires a clean installation, as described in option 1. In addition, once you install Windows Vista Beta 2 (or RC1) you cannot roll back to the previous operating system installation—you will either have to acquire and install the final released edition of Windows Vista or reinstall a previous edition of Windows. Before installing Windows Vista Beta 2 on any computer, please remember to back up all your files."

You need to read a bit more carefully before you act. I'm sure there was a similar message for Beta1. That's why I'm double booting XP Home on my C Drive and Vista on my G dedicated Vista hard drive.

"I have not been able to access my files"

Which files and where are they located, and why can't you access them. I know this thread is a few days old so if they haven't been overwritten and the folders are still visible but you are being blocked accessing them post back. Maybe we can reset the permissions so you can take ownership of them again.

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MARCELO CAHUENAS Jun 26, 2006, 04:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
Vista created a folder called Old Files .I can see the file but it can not be opened.Like I mentioned before
I did try to install xp, after I changed the booting place ,but not luck.What I would like to do is move my files to a safe place and then format the HD. Install xp and forget that Vista ever existed.
Thank you for your concern
Marcello

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Edited: Jun 26, 2006, 05:36pm EDT

 
>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
OK this is what you need to do. Go to the "old files" file. Right click on the file and hit properties. Open the security tab. Look at Groups or Users names. Do you see yourself on there? If not hit edit. Permissions window will open. Under users or groups hit add. In the select users or groups window in the Enter the objects name, enter your user name and hit the check names button. It will change your name to the right configuration for the system to use. Like if you enter Marcello it may change to Marcello (computer name/Marcello) or something like that. Now hit OK and go back to the permissions window. Is your name on the users/groups list? If so highlight it, and in the permissions for Marcello check the full control box. If you did it right all the boxes should automatically become checked as well. Hit apply, then OK. Go back to the "old files" properties window, and highlight your user name. In the permissions for Marcello window all the boxes should be checked except maybe special permissions. OK almost there. Hit the advanced button. The "advanced security settings for old files" window will open. Highlight your name and hit edit. A second "advanced securities settings for old files" window will open. Check the 2 boxes and hit apply. A popup window will ask if you want to inherit pewrmissions blah blah. Say yes. Now go to the owner tab. Highlight your name in the change owner box and check the box that says replace owner on subcontainers and objects. Hit apply then OK. Go to the effective permissions tab and hit select user button. Do the same thing adding your name to the new window and hit OK All the effective permissions boxes should now be checked. Go to the auditing tab. Hit add and add your name again. Hit apply. You should now see your name on the auditing tab with the word success in front of it.Hit edit. Auditing entry window will now open. Make sure on apply to it says this folder, sub folders and files. Go back to the first window the old files properties window. All the permission boxes should be checked. If they aren't, hit the edit button and check them. Hit OK then open your old files folder and copy your data to a safe place.

Edit. This is confusing I know. The bottom line is you want to end up hitting your user name on the properties window/security tab and see all the permission boxes below it checked, if you did it right. Post back and let me know how you made out.

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MARCELO CAHUENAS Jun 26, 2006, 07:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
"An object named "mcahuenas" cannot be found. Check the selected object types and location for accuracy and ensure that you typed the object name correctly, or remove this object from the selection."
Vista is in control of my computer it refuse to add or change user name.I am not going to give up yet
I will keep you posted
Thanks again

angryhippy Jun 27, 2006, 01:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
Have you tried going into safe mode and create a new user account?

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Steve Edmund Jul 25, 2006, 09:16am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
You should all switch to Fedora 5 or something. A vast host of apps and a solid, stable, and -secure- in so many more ways than any windows os.

Mike Kouloumoundras Aug 30, 2006, 03:35pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
As with all windows releases, they never run properly until they release service packs. In the IT industry it is common practice not to mainstream an OS until all the software kinks have been worked out and a couple service packs have been pushed out. For instance windows xp was released with 300,000+ KNOWN coding issues. Service pack 1 addressed mainly all the security hazards and service pack 2 fixed the lower priority updates. Give Vista a year or 2 from its release and it can and will only get better.

angryhippy Aug 30, 2006, 04:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: Windows Vista, a true resource hog?
I think with Vista we are seeing a different set of mechanics at work. 95 and 98 the industry was young and developers were jumping in gung ho developing new apps and programs, to be ready for the release. I think the prevalence of malware and virii writers targeting XP, and the constant parade of security issues and fixes, a lot of people are taking a wait and see attitude, before jumping on the Vista bandwagon. And I don't think that has gone unnoticed by the industry. One of the reasons why I uninstalled 5384 and went back to XP was the lack of supporting goods and services. It will be interesting for me when I get RC1 sent to me, and I get an opportunity to see what has developed from issues I had previously. I mean, I'm sure sales will be brisk (Amazon is already taking pre-orders, which may be a good forecaster), but Windows users who are knowledgable, aren't going to be jumping onboard right away, just because it's new. IMO. As for the resource hog thing? I didn't get that impression. But then again I'm into performance not looks, so disabling the eye candy was one of the first things I did.

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