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Silent Jul 18, 2006, 04:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I'm wondering if i can setup my 2wire 1000SW with static IP's. I have 3 computers directly connected to the homeportal and 4 wireless adapters and 1 wireless card. So is there a simple way to set up static IP's with this router? I have no idea how to so if someone could give me a step by step instruction I would appreciate it. Thanks.


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Greg M Jul 18, 2006, 06:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
Setting up static IPs is the same on any router (well, almost).

Go to Network Connections...
Right-click a connection (the one you are using) and click properties
In the list, scroll down to TCP/IP, select it and click properties
Click "Use the following IP address" and enter the required fields.
Default gateway should be your routers IP address.
Subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0
IP address should fall within the following criteria:
The same first 3 numbers as your routers address (default gateway) and the last number between 2 and 254.

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Edited: Jul 18, 2006, 06:34pm EDT

 
>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
"The same first 3 numbers as your routers address (default gateway) and the last number between 2 and 254."

Do i set the middle numbers (between default gateway and last number) to whatever i want?

Can i Make these static ip's without consulting my ISP 1st?

Does my ISP give me the static IP's and then i enter them?

thanks for the help, but im still a little lost.

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Jul 18, 2006, 06:34pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
No you don't need to contact your ISP... those IPs are LAN only... seperated by NAT.

Silent Jul 18, 2006, 06:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 18, 2006, 06:55pm EDT

 
>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
what about the DNS server adress?

So i dont have to contact sbc yahoo dsl, and have them do anything with static ip's. All i have to do is fill in this criteria?

IP Adress: . . .
Subnet Mask: . . .
Default gateway: . . .

Preffered DNS server: . . .
Alternate DNS server: . . .

Ok, i got the ip down and the subnet down, but im a little confused about the default gateway.

"The same first 3 numbers as your routers address (default gateway) and the last number between 2 and 254."

going back to this quote, it would look like this?

74. ? .? . between 2 and 254

so what about the numbers in the middle? and do i just pick any random number between 2 and 254?

I have no idea what the DNS server is about. Thanks again guys.






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Greg M Jul 18, 2006, 07:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
What is your routers IP address?
(what do you type to get into it?)

If your routers address was 74.10.1.1
then you would enter 74.10.1.(something '2-254') for each computers address

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Silent Jul 18, 2006, 07:23pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
does the preffered and alternate DNS server's have any significance?

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Silent Jul 18, 2006, 07:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
ok, well i tried and it didnt work...here is an example of what i did.
lets say my router ip adress is 74.10.34.50
IP Adress: 74 . 10 . 34 . 50
Subnet Mask: . . .255. 255. 255. 0
Default gateway: . . . 74. 10. 34 . 2

Preffered DNS server: . . .(blank)
Alternate DNS server: . . .(blank)

i simply get the page cannot be displayed message.
what am i doing wrong?


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BoT Jul 18, 2006, 07:40pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
ok, the default gateway for your pc is the router. the router will also be the primary dns server, even thou i would recommand to leave that setting on automatic.

the routers default gateway and dns server will be assigned by your isp. do not change the default gateway unless you feel that you can get a better access point. unlikely thou. you could change the dns server for the router but thats not really neccessary unless you problems resolving dns names. you will get an error msg in your browser specifing exactly that if it happens. if it happens often, try to switch dns servers.

i would really not mess to much with what is going on between sbc and your router.

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Silent Jul 18, 2006, 07:50pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
well, i need to set it up in static ip's specifically for an onsale. Im not going to comment further on the purpose of having static ip's but let me assure you it is essential for me to get it done. Basically, the place where the onsale goes on will "lock us out" where we wont be able to acess the site if the ip's are dynamic. But if the IP's are static, it will only lock out that single computer, and we can just move along to the next one.

The automatic DNS server option is no longer available once i turn off the automatic "obtain ip adress", so that is why i cant just go auto.

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BoT Jul 18, 2006, 07:54pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
if it is the 2wire dsl home office modem/ router, then use the routers ip address as the dns servers address. the router will do dns resolution for you

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Silent Jul 18, 2006, 08:04pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 18, 2006, 08:10pm EDT

 
>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
all right i got it to work manually. However, if i go to a "what's my ip site", it still tells me its the same ip as all of the other computers. Im trying to get it to where if the host decides to deny the ip access, it will only be that single computer's ip, not the entire office.

im just curious why do all of these "what's my ip" sites give me the same ip adress for every computer. It's not even the ip i entered. In order to achieve what i want dosent the ip adress being read on these sites have to be different for every computer? if so, how do i do it?

thanks for the help.

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Beavis Khan Jul 18, 2006, 08:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
Have a read on this first couple paragraphs of this article to see why you're getting the same IP - it's one of the downsides to NAT, but there are many advantages too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

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Silent Jul 18, 2006, 08:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
I read the article, but im a little confused.

So, my router is currently in a NAT configuration i take it. Do i have to go out and pay extra for more ip adresses. From the article, i believe it was saying that all of the adapters are running on the routers one dynamic ip adress. It's cheaper and more convenient to combine them all in one so it's the standard, right? So my question now shifts to, how can i get these ip's to be static, or show up differently on these "what's my ip" sites.

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BoT Jul 18, 2006, 09:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
your router has two ip addresses. one internal, thats the default gateway and one external, thats the one you get form sbc. sbc and other isp's prefer to keep that ip address dynamic. 1. it's easy for automated setup, because the modem/ router get's all the information from their dhcp router. 2. it is a very soft layer of protection for you, since your computers ip changes, nobody should be able to easily pinpoint your pc from anywhere on the internet(their are ways around it). 3. it gives them the opportunity to charge you extra for it.
all pc are displayed as one ip address, the routers ip address, which is not a downside but is what is giving a much greater deal of protection. now if some is trying to hack your machine, all they see if the go through your ip address is the router, not your pc(ways around that too).

if you want to display or connect via a diffrent ip address then you would have to purchase one from your isp/ sbc. which is not cheap from sbc, same applies for static ip's if you want a static ip address from sbc the prices are hefty.

why is it done that way? their was a limited amount of ip address in ipv4 internet addresses. so if everyone would connect every single pc to the internet with it's own ip address then they would run out quickly.

some of the 2wire modem/ routers will allow you to port forward, which should be loacted in the firewall options area. it will allow you to forward one or multiple ports to a pc so the traffic can pass throu directly to that pc. or ip forwarding, which forwards that ip addresses traffic to the pc. one ip address, one pc, the rest of the pc's will not be able to use that same ip. or if you pppoe client on the pc then you could set the router in bridge mode.

i would go to http://www.2wire.com
they have decent tutorials and their email support works well

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Silent Jul 19, 2006, 01:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
Thanks bot, you always seem to help with my posts. So would port forwarding or the other options you gave me have the same effect with the static(or seperate) ip's? Or when i go to buy xxxxxx this weekend(its nothing obscene, just cant have people know im trying to get around it) will they still be able to deny acess to all of our computer's unless i use static ip's or pay extra.

I get what you were saying, i am just simple minded :) thanks again.

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BoT Jul 19, 2006, 09:46am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
well it basiclly means that if i typ in your ip address (static or dynamic) here at my browser, instead of ending up on your router the traffic will be forwarded to the pc. if for what ever reason they will block that ip address, then you are pretty much cut off. nobody will be able to contact you and you won't be able to contact anybody. there is not much locally that you can do about it. also the only one really be able to cut you of is sbc and if they cut your connection, they will cut all of them, no matter how many ip's you got. only way around it. is to sign up with an additional isp, who supplies you with an ip. so once one goes down, you switch to the other.

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Silent Jul 19, 2006, 04:31pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Static IP's for 2wire router
well, when they are all "cut off" by the site im trying to acess. All we have to do is unplug/plug in the router again, and when the signal returns were granted acess to the site again. Probably because the ip changes every time we do that. The only problem is we have, say 10 minutes of valuable time to acess the site and do what we gotta do in that 10-15 min timeframe. So if they lock us out of the site, and we unplug/replug the power cord on the router and it takes 5 min, were pretty much in deep..well you know. A fried of mind does the same thing on the same site and he has static ip's where it only "cut's off" 1 comp at a time. So im assuming static ip's are the best way. I believe we were going to have static ip's at one time, but when sbc got here they told us we had to set them up ourselves. Can you guys please give me the step by step on if sbc came over and gave us the static ip's? thanks/.

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