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Scott Wieland Dec 09, 2006, 12:57pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well, I bought a new computer, and have been having tons of issues with it

Specs -
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+
MSI K9N SLI Platinum
1GB Corsair XM2 Xtreme
ATI x1950 XTX

Anyways, in the morning, when I turn my PC on I get a few different random blue screens. If I just reboot a couple times it'll eventually start up, and run fine the rest of the day. I have no idea what causes this, but it's beginning to worry me. Some of the stop errors I receive are -

"Bad_system_config_info 0x00000074"

"Page_fault_in_nonpaged_area 0x00000050"

"IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL 0x0000000a"

"0x000000D1" "0x000000BE"

Problems with "attempting to write read only memory"

Sometimes filenames are mentioned, although I don't recall all of them one was "ClassPNP.sys"

This happens every morning, no matter what. I've tried different harddrives(same XP install), I've run Memtest(no errors), I've tried reseating the ram, removing unneeded crap(router, multiple memory card slots). I also heard that my motherboard up to a point had trouble with ram clocked at 800mhz, even though it was supposedly fixed, I downclocked it to 667 with no luck.

Any advice would be great, as the company I purchased from isn't being very responsive..(CyberPowerPC).

Thank you for your time.

--Scott





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Wildwood Dec 09, 2006, 02:13pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well, Cyberpower needs to take care of this. Get tough with them. Let them know that if they do not stand up and take care of THEIR problem, you will start with the Better Business Beareau, then post the problem on resellerratings.com, then get legal assistance.

It's still under warranty. Stop messing with it or you'll void that warranty.

But the issue appears to be a hardware driver problem.


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Edited: Dec 09, 2006, 08:51pm EST

 
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Could also be faulty RAM. Download and install Memtest86 and run for 8-24 hrs. If any errors occur within this time, the RAM is faulty. If this is the cause, contact whoever it was you bought it from and either get a replacement computer, or new RAM.

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Wildwood Dec 10, 2006, 11:48am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sam -

Why did you go cheap on the memory. You have what would otherwise be a top notch system.
Download and run Memtest86 for about a day. You can get it here:
http://www.memtest86.com/

This is a problem I've seen before. And it has always been the memory. It's either bad memory, or incompatible memory. My money is on it being incompatible memory.


Scott Wieland Dec 11, 2006, 12:08am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I left out something I probably shouldn't have, but when I try to start my PC up in the morning, when the POST info starts coming up theres a pretty loud clicking noise. I think it's around 6 clicks really fast.. then a quick pause, then the same 6 fast clicks.

Also, when I tried to turn on my computer today I got a "c000021a {Fatal System Error} The session manager initialization system process terminated unexpectedly with a status of 0xc000026c"

First time I've seen it, but a reboot fixed it..

I'm calling CyberPower tomorrow, see what I can get them to do about this mess.


Scott Wieland Dec 11, 2006, 01:13am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Scott Wieland said:
I left out something I probably shouldn't have, but when I try to start my PC up in the morning, when the POST info starts coming up theres a pretty loud clicking noise. I think it's around 6 clicks really fast.. then a quick pause, then the same 6 fast clicks.



Forgot to mention, the clicking seems to come from the CD Drive... when I unplug it it no longer clicks, but I do still get the blue screens..

BoT Dec 11, 2006, 01:38am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hi scott, can also state specs for your hdd and psu.
do you dual boot with another os?
did you install all the drivers from the mobo cd or downloaded the news available drivers?
did you upgrade or change the bios?

you also mention that this is only happening in the morning. is that because you only use
the pc in the morning or does the problem go away in the afternoon or at night?

when was the last time you did a system repair or reinstall?


and btw, sam please start a new thread to avoid confusion.
thx

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Scott Wieland Dec 11, 2006, 01:56am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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HDD - 250GB SATA II 3.GB 7200 RPM 8MB
PSU - Antec 550w

I don't dual boot. I installed the drivers I have on the mobo CD, and it says my bios is currently version 1.3, and when I checked the site it said the current was 1.3, so I didn't try to update it.

On the time issue. I'll turn the PC on in the morning, after it's been off all night, and get all the errors. Once I reboot a few times to get by the errors, and windows is up and running, things seem to become stable. I can reboot with no problems at all.

I usually keep the computer on all day until night when I shut it off. The problems happen any time of the day, it's just when I boot it up for the first time during the day.

Scott Wieland Dec 11, 2006, 02:00am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Scott Wieland said:
HDD - 250GB SATA II 3.GB 7200 RPM 8MB
PSU - Antec 550w

I don't dual boot. I installed the drivers I have on the mobo CD, and it says my bios is currently version 1.3, and when I checked the site it said the current was 1.3, so I didn't try to update it.

On the time issue. I'll turn the PC on in the morning, after it's been off all night, and get all the errors. Once I reboot a few times to get by the errors, and windows is up and running, things seem to become stable. I can reboot with no problems at all.

I usually keep the computer on all day until night when I shut it off. The problems happen any time of the day, it's just when I boot it up for the first time during the day.


Sorry..Don't see an edit button. I forgot to mention, I've tried to reinstall windows a couple times, and had some trouble with blue screens during the installs, but it eventually went through without errors. I've heard about the repair thing, but when I tried it, I got some error about the disk I am using. Could this be related to problems I'm having?

Is it possible to have a bad windows disk or something?

BoT Dec 11, 2006, 03:46am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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it really looks like your memory. if those are 2x 512mb then just try with one and then with the other.
if possible got a different one and test it.
as crashburnxp already mentioned, you should test it with memtest or a similar utility.

the error codes all indicate memory related issues.

"Bad_system_config_info 0x00000074"

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326679

"Page_fault_in_nonpaged_area 0x00000050"

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/r...x?mfr=true

"0x000000D1"

this one is usb related
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/317326

0x000000BE

this is a toolbar that can cause memory issue
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306205

ClassPNP.sys

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/311278

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Sampl Dec 11, 2006, 04:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dublin_Gunner Dec 11, 2006, 06:36am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sam, as you've been told, please start your own thread. Your problem is not related, and this is the second thread so far you've tried to hijack, and the second or 3rd time you've been asked to start your own thread.


To the OP, it does seem like a memory error, but seeing you've an Antec PSU, the problem could lie there also.

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Scott Wieland Dec 11, 2006, 12:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thank you, I will try running memtest again and for longer. I ran it for about 4-5hrs last time, and no errors came up. I'll run it until tomorrow then post the results here.

Thanks for the advice so far!

--Scott

Scott Wieland Dec 12, 2006, 09:36pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Well, I ran memtest for 24hrs, it said I passed 62 tests when I stopped it, and no errors reported. Does this rule out the ram being the problem? I'm still going to try removing one stick of ram and testing them both to see if the problems still occur.

Anyone have any other ideas on this?

Thanks again.

Dublin_Gunner Dec 13, 2006, 06:30am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I still think it could be a PSU issue.

Try removing anything uneccessary. Just leave in 1 stick of ram, vid card, cpu & 1 hdd. Nothing else, and see if it boots.

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Sampl Dec 13, 2006, 06:52am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hey i don't find it strange that u have problems with the MSI mobo, before i had this board (ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe) i had a MSI K8N-SLI F, and that was a few weeks ago the first few days it ran perfectly exept that the sound was not working at all (from the start) as if there was no chip available... later on i got all kinds of error en craches and it was a new board, before this on i had an MSI K7T-Turbo and i had the same problems (Worse) like blue screen over and over again. i nevver had a good computer with MSI mobo's NEVER!! (and i'm not the only one) but i have used that board for over 3 years before i even began to think about a new mobo/computer then i bought the MSI K8N-SLI F (NOT GOOD)then after a few days i bought the ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe and BANG!!! it runs like like like well i don't know but it's working as it should be now.

So MY EXPIRIENCE with MSI (Mobo's) is not good at all... i'am running with a MSI GX2 GFX-Card

if i was you i would step over to ASUS and luckely the mobo's are not the most expensive components.


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AMD Athlon64 X2 2,4Ghz 4800+
2Gb G.skill DDR400
MSI NX7950GX2 1024Mb DDR3 (2x 512Mb GPU)

FordGT90Concept Dec 13, 2006, 07:25am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I immediately thought hard drive or memory. You ruled out memory with memtest. Have you ever tried keeping the hard drive unplugged and booting it? The computer should POST and complain about not finding an operating system if the hard drive is indeed the problem. If it spews errors or restarts prior to getting the OS not found message, I'm fairly certain it's the motherboard.

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Scott Wieland Dec 13, 2006, 10:57am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Ok, this morning I tried to boot up with just one stick of ram.

The POST came up for a few, then another black screen with just "testing NVRam" came up for another few seconds(never seen that). Then, then windows loading screen popped up, but instead of saying it was loading Windows XP, it said something about "Windows Server Family" I don't know what thats about or why it would say that.

While loading at that screen, a blue screen popped up. It said something about trying to "execute non executable memory" or something to that effect.(Stop code - 0x000000FC)

So I turned the PC off and swapped sticks of ram, it booted up just fine, no errors at all. I won't know for sure until I've left my PC off for awhile(which I will while at work today), hopefully it'll boot up fine and this will solve the issue. Is it possible memtest didn't find any errors, or does it matter if the memory that worked today was in the 2nd dual-channel slot at the time of testing?

Anyways, if this doesn't work out, I'll try some of the other suggestions.

Thanks again everybody!

-Scott

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Scott Wieland said:
Is it possible memtest didn't find any errors, or does it matter if the memory that worked today was in the 2nd dual-channel slot at the time of testing?

DIMM slots do go bad so I wouldn't rule out not having a bad DIMM slot or two. Memtest fills the entire bank of memory with data works with it a bit, and expects a certain value. If memtest doesn't find a problem, it pretty much rules out memory and to a lesser extent, CPU. It also loads the system which means significant power draw.

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Dublin_Gunner Dec 13, 2006, 11:23am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Certainly seems now to be a memory issue alright.

To rule out the possibility of it being the physical memory slot, put the working stick of ram into the slot the 'bad' stick was in and see if it boots.

If it does, its would certainly indicate that the other stick of memory is bad.

If it doesnt, it must be a motherboard issue.


Try moving the ram sticks to the other 2 ram slots

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4GB DDR2-800
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