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THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK Feb 13, 2007, 10:04pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 14, 2007, 02:14am EST

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:angry:i RECOMMEND UPDATING YOUR COMPUTER TO 680i OR PARTICAPATE IN amd Multi processor experiment, increase in media quality is significat. Unfortuneately, Vista will not be O/S for that media experience, at least not now. Use Windows XP with harddrive from your old computer to maintain validation.

Vista "ADVANCED" kernal is advanced from 1988, yet is already 5 years old & does POORLY with todays advanced computers. When machines do run Vista in aero glass, I think you will see THOSE FUTURE "TRUELY" CAPABLE VISTA MACHINES fundumentally BE K6 incorporated AS FUNDUMENTAL ARCHETECTURE to make media viable, which is barely software capable of DVD.

Numbers will tell truth when engineering gets there. Basicly, huge cover up, starting with forcing activation upon beta tester to quickly use up builds & drop ENTIRE BETA subject seems to be one more horrid launch for Microsoft. Right now, Microsoft (Sears Tower) is suing Microsoft (Redmond,Wa), So its really uncool O/S.

If you machine is not aero glass capable, fine, less problems. Perhaps with lower levels of Vusta than Ultimate, it may work. However, Ultimate is indeed "ULTIMATE TRAGEDY'.

NO, is answer. Vista will explode in your face. OOps, theres goes IEA7 shutdown again, whats that audio tap-tap-tap after few minutes, why does video clump & reel at 4x. Why does whole mess shut itself off or flicker like old time movie? WELL ANSWER IS SIMPLE, VISTA IS NO GOOD. Await Blackcomb & its multi core promise.

Vista will not work in open GL such as 8800 GTs, WHILE BOTH OPTERON & ATHLON 64 DO NOT HAVE ss3, MAKING IT SIMPLER FOR VISTA, AS THAT POST DATES VISTAS' INCEPTION, IT IS VERY UNLIKELY ANYONE WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS AT ALL, UNLESS YOU ARE AFRAID TO ADMIT TO PROBLEMS WHEN THEY OCCUR.

SOME DAY YOU WILL FEEL YOUR PLACVE & NOT BE SUCH HATE MONGER. TOO BAD LYING DOSN'T MAKE TERM MODERATOR LOOK THAT BIG, UNLESS ITS SHORT FOR BIGET.

iNTERNAL SUIT IS IMPORTANT AS vISTA DID NOT MEET MAY OF ITS PROMISES & MICROSOFT IS FIRST TO ADMITT THAT VIA TORT.

CANN'T SEEM TO FIND YOU MALAYED QUOTE, YET IF YOU HAVE AERO GLASS CAPABLE, YOU CANN'T TURN IT OFF. yET MORE HIGHER LEVELS OF ARCHETECTURE ARE WEAKESS POINTS IN vISTA. sEEMS TO ME YOU DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SELL NOR IF ITS ANY GOOD, KIND OF SCARED LITTLE PERSON.(UPDATE)happy valentines day. ALSO I DOUBT IF YOU EVER DID ANY VISTA NOR OWN EQUIPMENT YOU CLAIM OR YOU SIMPLY ENJOY SADISTIC PLEASURE OF MISINFORMING..TSVD. iF YOUR SUCH SELF ELEVATED EXPERT WHY ARE 80+% OF REVIEWS LESS THAN OPTOMISTIC? aS FAR AS DFI IS CONCERNED, ITS TWO STEPS BACK AT PREMIUM PRICE, NOT WIDE APPLICATION MAINBOARD MOST DESKTOPS NEED & CERTAINLY YOU DIDN'T RUN ANY QUAKE III GAMES ON VISTA.

IT TOO EXPLODES IF DRIVERS CAN EVEN BE PUT IN. bEST TO DO IF YOU REALLY REALLY HAVE TO TRY VISTA IS FIRST PUT IN xp & ALL DRIVERS YOUR SYSTEM NEEDS, THEN PUT UP ANOTHER PARTITION WITH VISTA ON IT, EVEN ATI VISTA DRIVERS DON'T WORK ALONE, VGA GOES TO 4 BIT WITH OUT xp HANDLE TO REFER TO.GOOOD LUCK CHUMMMM.


Signed:PHYSICIAN THOMAS STEWART VON DRASHEK M.D.


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CrAsHnBuRnXp Feb 13, 2007, 10:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that's the question?
i RECOMMEND UPDATING YOUR COMPUTER TO 680i OR PARTICAPATE IN amd Multi processor experiment, increase in media quality is significat. Unfortuneately, Vista will not be O/S for that media experience, at least not now. Use Windows XP with harddrive from your old computer to maintain validation.

I run an AMD Opteron 165 @2.75GHz with 2GB of RAM, 8800GTS, DFI Lanparty mobo, and a 600w PSU and it runs Vista flawless. I also ran Vista RC2 with an AMD Athlon64 3200+ @2.6GHz with 2GB of RAM, a 6800GS (AGP), and a 450watt PSU with a Gigabyte mobo and it also ran the RC2 flawless. Vista will run just fine on most all comptuers. Maybe not with all the eye candy pending what type of system it has, but alot of the bloat can and is (by me anyway) disabled.

With that said, you DO NOT necessarily need to have a 680i computer just to run Vista. People have run the OS with a lot worse specs and had little to no trouble with it.

Numbers will tell truth when engineering gets there. Basicly, huge cover up, starting with forcing activation upon beta tester to quickly use up builds & drop ENTIRE BETA subject seems to be one more horrid launch for Microsoft. Right now, Microsoft (Sears Tower) is suing Microsoft (Redmond,Wa), So its really uncool O/S.

What does being sued have to do with the way the OS was compiled? Microsoft gets sued all the time and it hasn't stopped them form making a great OS such as XP. So saying that is completely off subject.

If you machine is not aero glass capable, fine, less problems. Perhaps with lower levels of Vusta than Ultimate, it may work. However, Ultimate is indeed "ULTIMATE TRAGEDY'.

Explain this one to me. Even if you could run Aero Glass you can turn it off. Who says you have to run it? How is Vista Ultimate the "Ultimate Tragedy"? Explain yoru self there please. To me, that is just a hock ofs**t.

NO, is answer. Vista will explode in your face. OOps, theres goes IEA7 shutdown again, whats that audio tap-tap-tap after few minutes, why does video clump & reel at 4x. Why does whole mess shut itself off or flicker like old time movie? WELL ANSWER IS SIMPLE, VISTA IS NO GOOD. Await Blackcomb & its multi core promise.

Again, Vista is a great OS and will NOT "explode in your face". IE7 is a real improvement over IE6 I will give it that and it is a lot better. However, I will still stick with Firefox as I like it much better.

So here is my conclusion. I have reason to beleive that you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. I beleive that you are one of those who believes everything he/she reads. You do not have any inkling of how the OS runs as you have probably never tried the final build let alone the RC versions. Until you do, I would not judge Vista the way you just did.

Sean Costello Feb 13, 2007, 10:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that's the question?
1. My PC Runs Vista and games just as fast as on XP, Vista actually runs faster on desktop then XP ever did.

2. IE7 pwns, i use it now :P

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Everett Williams Feb 25, 2007, 01:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that's the question?
mark allen,

I'm not used to seeing admins as fanboys. Maybe that is part of your job description, but it does not seem wise if you are to be viewed as any kind of independent analyst. IE7 has been a real disaster for those of us who run small, ptp networks. When it was installed, connections either became unstable or disappeared, and new machines could not find existing shares. I found the problem on the internet along with a registry cleanup required in addition to IE7 removal to get things back to normal. Those of my non-network customers who have tried IE7 have found it to be too much of a learning curve and not worth all the trouble. Fox or SeaMonkey or even Netscape work much better, and SeaMonkey with Multizilla gives the ultimate tab experience. I usually install SeaMonkey with Multizilla and ieview and do basic setup on Multizilla for them, and they are very happy, with few problems of any kind. There is a reason that MS tried to force IE7 out onto their customers. It covered a few of the IE6 holes, but it was and is so far behind the curve that there is no reason for anyone to run it without being forced. In addition, using the SeaMonkey email client is so much less vulnerable than using Outlook or Outlook express, that systems require much less care to keep out various malware. I have over 4 gig of email, and a couple of my customers have over 2 gig, and neither Outlook nor OE will even begin to handle such a large store without constantly crashing and burning.

Many point to IE7 as the precursor to Vista, and to the degree that it is so, it is a true warning to all to stay away from Vista, at least for a couple of years, not just six months. I have already sent a note to all vendors who only sell systems with Vista, that I will no longer be purchasing systems from them.

Randolph Zugie Mar 02, 2007, 06:05am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Re: To Vista or not to Vista, that's the question?
First of all, to the poster who said, "Ultimate is ULTIMATE TRAGEDY", man... if you are foreign, to the states or the UK, that is fine. I have no problems with that; however, when you are foreign to the english language, and post in a tech forum where English is the expected norm, and where people are trying to gain knowlege to a problem or situation, I do have a problem. It appears to me that Vista as a problem, is in all reality, or at least should be, the least of your concerns. How about picking up an English text book, and ... oh, i don't know... maybe learn the f***ing language? I'm not going to say my understanding of English is perfect, my spelling is poor most the time, and my punctuation, and i'm not 100% sure on the use of a comma, or the whole concept of adverbs for that matter, but at least my point comes across clear enough to those who do speak, read, and write the language of English. In case you my friend have failed to see the point, it's this: you made an ignorant ass of yourself in both the areas of technical knowlege of the subject of Vista, and your undstanding of the language you murdered trying to get your babbled garbage across. Also, one might wonder, why I who has never posted before am saying this, and not a moderator, and one might further wonder why a moderator has not taken that individual's posting down? I've been bashed at forums, because i said the wrong brand name or number of screw holes on a piece of guitar hardware, and this is allowed here in a forum for matters of IT? what a joke.

Oh, and to whoever said XP is a great OS... don't forget, that when XP was released for the first time, there was alot of unhappy people as well in regards to problems from their installations. not saying in comparison, that xp even when it was first released was better, or not, than vista in regards to being less problematic, just saying it's not a great operating system.

Never use an OS from MS until the release of SP3. lol all i know is i heard DRM is going to be heavier in Vista than it is with XP SP2. I'm in no hurry to upgrade, I build my own machines, so it will be a while before i upgrade software vs, hardware. I'll just wait and see what happens with Vista before i buy.


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