Wow, two Native Quad-Core's stuck together for a 8 Core CPU? I guess this is possible due to the Hyper Transport & 45nm.
Internally AMD calls this project K10.5 and it indicates that we are not only talking about a shrunk chip, it has some new marchitecture inside.
Montreal is AMD's octa core
Written by Fuad Abazovic
Monday, 16 April 2007 13:49
2x Shanghai at 45 nm
AMD has some new surprises for next year. Once it moves to 45 nanometre it will be ready for its eight core CPU.
Montreal is the codename for dual core Shanghai that we've mentioned here before. Shanghai has 6MB of L3 cache while in total Montreal has 12 MB. This is a duct taped CPU with two native quad cores stuck together.
The best part is that this is a part scheduled for 2008. The only part we got wrong is that two times Shanghai is called Montreal. AMD is certainly getting hard on using the town names. I guess then that the new Sempron will be called Sarajevo.
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No, Montreal coming more like in 2008. Just as Intel is planning on an 8-core strategy at around the same time.
The one thing AMD has done was stick to there Road Maps almost 100%.
People think AMD is late in releasing there newer CPU's, well they are not, they are right on track according to there Road Maps.
Barcelona coming in Q2 2007 = Possibly in June 2007
Angena (FX) & Kuma coming in Q3 2007 = Possibly in August/Sept. 2007
Montreal coming in Q2 to Q4 2007 = Possibly Summer of 2008 or even earlier.
If you read the article, it is quite easy to design & manufacture Montreal.
Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time.
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Shame they cannot get a decent rival to the C2D platform NOW!!! Instead of all this Christmas wish list s**t....This goes on and on and on......and on!
Get you FOOKIN finger out AMD.
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>>Re: AMD's Octa-Core Montreal in 2008 @ 45nm Process
I think Quad-Core is will just be fine for at least 2 to 3 years. But I do admit, there is nothing like competition. Let AMD & Intel beat themselves over the head while we reap the benefits.
I just hope AMD picks up a bigger baseball bat. They’ve been battered quite a bit as of late.
Don't rule out AMD so fast, they can't be the best all the time.
>>Re: AMD's Octa-Core Montreal in 2008 @ 45nm Process
more-real! (best shot at a bad french accent)
with a name like that, it sounds like it comes with a pack of smokes, and breakfast at a topless bar!
.. now then.. when does the arguement start where intel fans say it's s**t, because it's not a TRUE octo core.. it's just a pair of quads stuck together ???
(not knocking intel fans, just commenting on past pro-amd remarks)
>>Re: AMD's Octa-Core Montreal in 2008 @ 45nm Process
From single core, multiprocessor capable systems, through to 8 Cores+ in just a few years, is just a wonderful thing, but.....Of what use are they, given the present levels of multithreading OSs and applications and licensing?
To the best of my knowledge; and I do have to admit my knowledge may be a few years out of date; MS doesn't support more than 4 processors on any commercially avialable Desktop product, and anything above 8 requires a DataCenter OS license for Servers, and you can only get DataCenter from a few approved vendors. MS isn't the only one....Oracle keeps changing their pricing models from "power-units" (whatever they are) to processors/cores, and back so it's impossible to figure out what a long term support and upgrade contract is actually going to cost you. Even their own sales force were confused on this a few years ago! Maybe they've worked it out by now...hopefully.
What I'd like to see is for the processor and chipset developers to work closer with the software developers to eliminate glaring inefficiencies in present HW/SW designs before going after "bragging rights" for how many processors you can cram on a chip that still can't talk efficiently to DRAM or any other bus without slowdowns and conflicts.
Just my $1s worth...(inflation you know).
Gerritt
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>>Re: AMD's Octa-Core Montreal in 2008 @ 45nm Process
Phil verhey said:
.. now then.. when does the arguement start where intel fans say it's s**t, because it's not a TRUE octo core.. it's just a pair of quads stuck together ???
There's nothing wrong with MCM besides the fact it tends to run hotter.
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>>Re: AMD's Octa-Core Montreal in 2008 @ 45nm Process
Gerritt said:
To the best of my knowledge; and I do have to admit my knowledge may be a few years out of date; MS doesn't support more than 4 processors on any commercially avialable Desktop product, and anything above 8 requires a DataCenter OS license for Servers, and you can only get DataCenter from a few approved vendors. ..
I had to check up on this for Windows XP Professional x64 Edition. It's license is for up to two sockets. It doesn't matter how many cores are on it. I think plain Windows XP Professional is the same. If it has more than two sockets (physical processors), you'll need Windows Server to utilize them.
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>>Re: AMD's Octa-Core Montreal in 2008 @ 45nm Process
Phil verhey said:
.. now then.. when does the arguement start where intel fans say it's s**t, because it's not a TRUE octo core.. it's just a pair of quads stuck together ???
Phil,
Here i'll help ya with this :
" NOT a TRUE Octo core "
"All it is is two quad slap together in a package, nothing INNOVATIVE about that"
"They are just being Lazy"
"Once again the Green Team following in the steps of the Blue Team"
AHAHAHAH.... LOL.... Hey for you all out there... dont get up tight.. AHAHAH I'm messing with ya.. J/K... funny thing is ... how things goes around comes around... So we all going to have to get use to it... there are things that Intel does that AMD will use at a later date and things that AMD does that Intel will use at a later date.... ahahahah...
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"Nehalem has its roots in the four-issue Core 2 Duo architecture, but the direction that it will take Intel is apparent in Gelsinger's insistence that, "we view Nehalem as the first true dynamically scalable microarchitecture." What Gelsinger means by this is that Nehalem is not only designed to take Intel up to eight cores on a single die, but those cores are meant to be mixed and matched with varied amounts of cache and different features in order to produce processors that are tailored to specific market segments. "
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