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J Bothroyd May 02, 2007, 04:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Further to my thread below, I simply cannot fix this problem. That said, I am certain it is related to my videocard.

Everytime I boot windows I am greeted with the blue screen of death; the warning says:

STOP 0x0000007f (0x00000000) (0x00000000) (0x00000000)

In the past few days I have automatically downloaded a windows update and an AVG anti-virus update. I am wondering whether this has caused a conflict with my ATi drivers.

I can boot into safe mode and when I disable the videocard everything runs fine on re-boot (aside from the usual chugging you get without a videocard installed). Obviously I cannot play games either and I'm missing Resident Evil 4 terribly!!!!

I have never overclocked my videocard and the inside of my PC is spotless clean. I have tried system restore, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling my videocard drivers, I have tried everything but a complete reformat.

Can someone please help? This problem is driving me crazy!!!


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Bitmap May 02, 2007, 04:30pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
There's a number of things that could be causing this:

Faulty RAM
Faulty PSU
Faulty hard drive

The list goes on.

Let's start with this:
What was the last piece of hardware you added/upgraded to your computer?

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J Bothroyd May 02, 2007, 04:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Hi Bobby

I haven't installed any new hardware in absolutely ages, or updated the software for any either.

On Sunday the PC was working fine. On Monday morning I booted up and received the BSOD. According to system restore a windows security update was downloaded that very morning.

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ian elliott May 03, 2007, 07:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Uninstall the last windows update you got. I had the same problem on one of my computer.

someguy May 04, 2007, 12:23am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
I also had that very same problem right after 1st update for WIn xp Pro x64. I added new hardware also, so it was a B***ch trying to figure out what was causing it.

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J Bothroyd May 04, 2007, 03:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
I already did a system restore to a few days before the update. Wouldn't that remove it? Or do I need to go into control panel and remove it manually?

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 04, 2007, 05:04am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
turn off automatic updates, and then try a system restore.

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J Bothroyd May 05, 2007, 06:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
<sighs> it keeps getting worse guys.

I disabled automatic updates and restored my PC to 24 April.

Rebooted and greeted with BSOD again.

This time the message was:

Page fault in non-paged area; STOP 0X00000050 0XF7CC2000 0X00000000 0X863E9D2 0X00000000

What the hell?

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TWolfe May 05, 2007, 09:34am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
That is most likely a memory error, bad overclock, run Memtest.

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mothow May 05, 2007, 09:57am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 05, 2007, 10:43am EDT

 
>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Yeah it sounds like a memory issue.Try and remove one stick if you have more than 1. And see if you still get the error..Also you can run memterst86.

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J Bothroyd May 09, 2007, 01:51pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Hey guys

Well I tried removing one stick of memory at a time and on both occasions I was still greeted with the blue screen of death.

I ran memtest and all is apparently well with my memory.

Further, I have restored my BIOS defaults and clocked my CPU back to 2.80GHz and still the problem persists.

My PC boots up and runs fine if I either:

a) disable the X800 Drivers in device manager
b) uninstall the drivers altogether (although windows notices the video card and asks me to install the drivers)

All in all my nightmare continues!

Any further help would be MUCH appreciated!

Cheers

J

p.s. anyone know how I can smooth out the scrolling in Internet Explorer? It judders whenever I try and scrool a page! I guess that what happens when you don't have a video card installed huh?

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ian elliott May 09, 2007, 02:19pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 09, 2007, 02:25pm EDT

 
>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Try reinstalling windows. One of my computers didn't like one of the Windows update. You should have uninstalled it from the add/remove programs.

Try reinstalling windows and put all your drivers back on. Run a test on 3dmark. Then add your programs and stuff you need. See what causes the problem. And don't overclock.

J Bothroyd May 14, 2007, 02:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
OK - So I'm going to try re-installing Windows XP. Trouble is, I've never done this before.

I have the Windows CD that came with my PC and that has Service Pack 1 on it. I also have a upgrade disk that I got a few years ago with Service Pack 2 on it. Which one do I use?

And can I do some kind of repair install so I can keep all my old stuff on there?

Sorry for being a total twerp!

Cheers

J

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J Bothroyd May 14, 2007, 06:42pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Right - did a full repair instal of Windows XP (including Service Pack 2).

Removed the ATi drivers, restarted, reinstaled and problem STILL persists!

What do you guys reckon? Is it the videocard???

Driving me insane now guys >:o

J

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Gerritt May 14, 2007, 07:22pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
The first error - the STOP 7f with a 0x0 modifier indicates a buffer overflow and could be just about anything - including changing your clocking. Set your BIOS back to default/automatic clock speeds and try again.

The second error - STOP 50 - PAGE FAULT IN NON-PAGED MEMORY, though can be caused by just about any peripheral device, usually, these days points to Video DRAM in most of the cases that I've seen it pop up. The reason you wouldn't see this in safe mode is due to the MUCH lower VRAM utililization at the lower resolutions (800x600 - 256 color would not be accessing many of the VRAM chips). This issue can also be caused by bad memory mapping as provided by the Video or other drivers. In just one case I've seen this in relation to a bad CD/DVD burner, and have heard it could be caused by a bad NIC as well.

If you haven't tried this already, I would boot to Safe Mode; this works, yes?
Then through add/remove programs in the control panel, remove ALL of the ATI Video Drivers and Control Center applications.
Reboot to Normal if you can.
IF you can, then get on the web, get the latest NON-BETA drivers for your card (I believe the RADEON driver sets are now part of a consolidated driver set), but try to get the driver kit that doesn't include all of the Control Center stuff. When getting the drivers, make SURE you are getting the right ones for your OS...XP comes in 32bit and 64bit versions and they don't like each other...at ALL, I'm assuming you have XP32.
IF it still doesn't work, try unplugging or if on the MB, disabling, all other peripheral devices, Network, Sound, removable media drives (Floppy, CD/DVD, USB attached storage or any other USB device besides your Keyboard/Mouse). If you can now boot properly the memory error is associated with the other function, if NOT then you are probably looking at HW failure of the VRAM on the GPU.

Good luck!

Gerritt


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habs fan May 14, 2007, 08:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Have you tried an older Catalyst release or Omega drivers?

ian elliott May 14, 2007, 09:58pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Have you an old graphics card to test in the machine.

J Bothroyd May 15, 2007, 04:25am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
I don't have a spare graphics card and I've tried using older video drivers. The problem happened very suddenly - I hadn't installed anything new for ages.

Will try out the 'unplug everything method' this evening and see if it works.

On a side note, when I uninstall the graphics drivers and reboot normally, Windows notices that there is a VGA controller in the AGP slot and asks me if I want to install the drivers for it. Does this mean the card is okay?

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80GB Raptor HD
350GB Omega External HD
2GB RAM (2 x 1GB DDR400 Corsair)
Radeon X1950 Pro 512MB AGPx8
Cooler Master Jet 4
Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor
Antec True Blue 480W PSU
Samsung TD22 22" HD LCD Monit
CrAsHnBuRnXp May 15, 2007, 04:33am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
J Bothroyd said:
I don't have a spare graphics card and I've tried using older video drivers. The problem happened very suddenly - I hadn't installed anything new for ages.

Will try out the 'unplug everything method' this evening and see if it works.

On a side note, when I uninstall the graphics drivers and reboot normally, Windows notices that there is a VGA controller in the AGP slot and asks me if I want to install the drivers for it. Does this mean the card is okay?

It just means that Windows did not detect any video drivers. All you would have to do is reinstall them, reboot, and the message would go away. Doesn't necessarily mean that the card is okay.

J Bothroyd May 15, 2007, 04:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
Oh right, thanks.

So what do you think my problem is Mark?

Thanks

J

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 May 15, 2007, 06:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Problem - Virtually Impossible To Fix BSOD 0x0000007f !!!!!!!!
have you tried running Memtest on your ram?

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