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Bitmap May 09, 2007, 08:14pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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First, the back story:

There I was, listening to DJ Tiesto (A change from the usual Dream Theater, Disturbed, and Tool) and I decided, "I'm gonna install Call of Duty 2, and play a few levels." So, I dig up my discs, pop the first one in, and begin the install. But what am I greeted with? CoD 2's InstallShield has it's own background music! Oh noes!

So my question is this:
Does anyone know of a freeware program that will allow me to independently control volume across multiple programs in Windows XP?

Thanks in advance, guys. :)


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Adam Kolak May 09, 2007, 08:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
That feature is built into Windows Vista. Not sure of a program that does the same for XP, but it might exist.

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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
Adam K. said:
That feature is built into Windows Vista.

I read that a few places... but I'm sticking with XP until I upgrade my system.

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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
Bobby Phillipps said:
Adam K. said:
That feature is built into Windows Vista.

I read that a few places... but I'm sticking with XP until I upgrade my system.


Here's what it looks like in Vista:
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/images/voume_mixer.jpg
http://media.arstechnica.com/images/misc/vista/beta2/volume.jpg
http://www.techronical.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/122706_0...sVist3.png


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john albrich May 09, 2007, 11:18pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
That's one freeware program I've not seen for XP. Could be useful for some applications.

I think Windows programmers used to assume each application would provide its own ability to sync or de-sync with the master volume controls, and many applications do provide that ability to set their own independent volume control. But of course, some don't.

Sometimes it's a matter of using a full-featured version of an app instead of using it's basic OEM package version. Sometimes that function is provided in an app by an "equalizer" or "advanced" settings in some option labeled kindof like it has something to do with audio control, e.g. "Theatre Settings".

I'm actually rather surprised CoD doesn't have that selectable option.

I use a keyboard that has a built-in volume control, so it's very easy to handle changing it as needed. But, I can see where when you don't it could be very annoying.

I have heard of some programs that attempt to implement a more or less automatic gain control on the master volume output, so all audio output is at about the same level, and of course there are also hardware AGCs, but AGC clearly isn't what you're looking for.

I'll look around. Seems like it should be a fairly simple program, assuming a given app follows all the programming interface guidelines. One thing that ticked me off with XP MCE was that Microsoft introduced yet another volume control layer...and it impacted more than just CD and DVD audio output properties.

FordGT90Concept May 09, 2007, 11:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
I think you can edit setup.inf to have "BackgroundMusic=False" or something similar. Application volume can only really be overridden by device drivers because everything else (DirectSound and other audio libraries) have independent controls for volume. I'm sure Vista's implementation of audio control is built into the driver set.

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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
john albrich said:
I'll look around. Seems like it should be a fairly simple program, assuming a given app follows all the programming interface guidelines. One thing that ticked me off with XP MCE was that Microsoft introduced yet another volume control layer...and it impacted more than just CD and DVD audio output properties.

I did do some Googleing, but the only ones I could find are the kinda crap you have to pay $20 for. I'm not paying $20 to change my volume. I'll keep looking, though.

Anyone else?

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Edited: May 09, 2007, 11:33pm EDT

 
>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
Not freeware, but not too expensive.

The important thing is that it's clearly do-able. Still looking.

http://www.filedudes.com/IndieVolume-download-22832.html
~US$25

"IndieVolume is a supplement to Windows Volume Control that dramatically improves the way Windows applications sound.

IndieVolume is for experienced Windows users dreaming about those handy features Windows Volume Control is lacking for years-- per-application volume, per-application balance and mute, support of FX, support of multiple audio devices, etc. IndieVolume has all that functionality. With IndieVolume you get the most out of your audio.

IndieVolume allows every application have separate volume level, independent from other applications volume level. For example, you are listening to the music, and suddenly some application LOUDLY shouts or dings. With IndieVolume you just configure shouting application to sound at different (lower) volume compared to the volume at which player application is playing music."





edit to comment: looks like your $20 "kinda crap" and my $25 find crossed-paths in the intertubes.

Bitmap May 10, 2007, 01:21am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
Yeah, honestly, I think it's bogus that some of the programs out there cost as much as they do, let alone that some of them actually do cost money.

A program that will aid me in making a database or 3, worth some money.
A game, worth some money.
A program to aid in creating a few websites, worth some money.
A program that lets me control volume... eh, not so much.

I appreciate it, though. :)

Anyone else?

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john albrich May 10, 2007, 01:22am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 10, 2007, 05:27am EDT

 
>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
Again, not exactly what you're looking for, but these are freeware, and they could make setting volume control much easier. I've still got hooks out for the freeware you requested.

The "Sound Volume Hotkeys v1.0" by Softarium.com looks like it would be the easiest w/r to your goals, and least intrusive re: installation.

I've included 3 groups based on volume control approach:
Hotkey Volume Control (allows preset volume selections via hotkey)
Mouse Wheel Volume Control (control volume with mouse, with hotkey mouse-wheel function switchover)
Automatic Gain Control

One of the Pre-set control programs is a shareware, but it looked interesting enough to include.

Just had a thought...the hotkey approach might actually provide even more value, in that you could very quickly select a specific volume profile for a game depending on what you're doing, what time it is, whether people are sleeping...that sort of thing.

I haven't tried any of these so can't speak from personal experience.

John


THIS GROUP OF PROGRAMS PROVIDE HOTKEY MIXER PRE-SETS
(would make setting audio for various apps much easier but not fully automatic)

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Kcplus/
Sound Control Plus v2.15
by Really Effective Software
Release date: 13-Apr-02
File name: scp.exe
Size: 613K
License: Freeware
System Requirements: Winamp (latest version); Windows compatible Soundcard
Sound Control Plus is a freeware replacement Windows Sound Mixer applet which together with most of the features of the standard Windows mixer it also allows you to add hot keys to adjust any combination of your sound mixer volumes. Support to control Winamp with a series of hot keys, CD Player and an On Screen Display is also included.
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http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/SndVol/
Sound Volume Hotkeys v1.0
by Softarium.com
Release date: 05-Jun-05
File name: SoundVolumeHotkeys.exe
Size: 373 KB
License: Freeware
System Requirements: Windows 2000 or XP
Control sound volume using system-wide hotkeys. Customizable on-screen sound volume indicator will show you the current level.
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http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickmix/
QuickMix 1.06
by Martin Saxon
Release date: 20051031
Windows 9x/NT/Me/2000/XP
File name: QuickMixIn.EXE
Size: 384 KB
License: Freeware
Are you fed up with carefully setting the audio mixer on your Windows 95/98/NT4 computer only to have the settings changed by another application or when you reboot?
Do you need to store and recall different sets of mixer settings quickly and easily?
Then QuickMix is for you.
QuickMix is a simple applet that allows you to store all or part of the current state of your audio mixer in a settings file, and to restore the mixer to that state whenever you want.

edit to add-QuickMix may allow command-line control. This is based on an update list I read. If it does process via command-line, and could thus run in batch operation, that would make it a much more useful utility - john albrich
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THIS ONE IS NON-FREEWARE
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/PowerMixer/
Power Mixer v3.0b
by Actual Solution
Release date: 30-Nov-06
File name: Power_Mixer_3.0b.exe
Size: 581 KB
License Conditions: 14 Day Trial. Registration: US$17.95
System Requirements: 500K Disk Space, Sound Card
Power Mixer is an advanced Windows audio mixer, powerful replacement for the standard Volume Control. It includes audio mixer, scheduler, On Screen Display, command line support, the ability to store and recall different unlimited presets via one mouse click or system-wide hot keys.
This application allows you easily change the sound volume just rotating mouse wheel in the system tray or using keyboard hot keys. Using presets you can change all parameters of a sound simultaneously! It is designed to be especially useful for those who play games, professionally work with a sound, or are everyday users.
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THIS GROUP LETS ONE USE THE MOUSE WHEEL TO CHANGE VOLUME

Fast Volume 1.2b
I think the OS compatibility list was truncated. It probably supports XP.

http://www.download3k.com/MP3-Audio-Video/Utilities-Plug-Ins/D...olume.html
Fast Volume 1.2b
Size: 466.43 KB
License: Shareware (but $0)
OS: Win95,Win98,WinME,WinNT 3.x,WinNT 4.x,Windows2000,
Price: $0
Publisher: Digital Fantasy
Fast Volume is an easy-to-use freeware utility, which allow you to change volume level very fast. How it works? Press Hotkey (winkey by default) to see current volume level. When hotkey pressed: mouse wheel up -- increase volume level, mouse wheel down -- decrease volume level.Hotkey can be WinKey, Alt, Ctrl, Shift. Beginning with version 1.1b of Fast Volume hotkey also can be WinKey + (A .. Z), Alt + (A .. Z), Ctrl + (A .. Z), Shift + (A .. Z); i.e.: WinKey + Z Beginning with version 1.2b of Fast Volume volume control can be linear or logarithmic
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Wheels of Volume
This might be adware...text said it was released to promote FuzLez. Could just be they're nice folks. Don't know.

WheelsOfVolume 1.00
Size: 432.03 KB
License: Freeware
OS: WinXP,Windows2003
Price: $0
Publisher: FuzLez.com Date added: 12/20/2005
Date updated: 12/20/2005
Total Downloads: 109
Freeware application that allows you to control the volume of your computer using the mousewheel. When the mouse wheel is clicked (middle mouse button) the sound will be muted. When used with a full screen application the top right corner will be used. Extremely intuitive in use. Uses very little computer resources and comes with full installer and deinstaller. Standard functions of the mousewheel are not affected in any way. Non-commercial distribution in any form allowed.
Requirements: Mouse with wheel
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THIS PROGRAM IS AN AUTOMATIC GAIN CONTROL TYPE OF PROGRAM

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/AutoMixer/
AutoMixer v1.1
by F-Group Software
Release date: 04-Dec-04
File name: Amsetup.exe
Size: 775 KB
License: Freeware
System Requirements: 2Mb on hard disk
The program AutoMixer is intended for automatic control of volume level. This program can be used for hearing MP3-music, radio of viewing TV or playing games. The flexible tuning will allow you effectively use by the program in all cases.



edit to add-comment on hotkey approach value-add depending on what you're doing, etc
edit to add-comment on possible QuickMix may allow command-line control and thus batch operation. Which would make it a much more useful utility. I also updated the QuickMix link to point to version 1.06 instead of 1.05.

Bitmap May 10, 2007, 02:07am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
I have a Logitech G15, and that has a volume wheel on it, so I don't need anything for system volume overall, I just need something that will allow me to control individual volumes of individual programs, much like Adam showed on Vista. If there's a good piece of freeware that'll accomplish this, I'm there. Alas, I'm still here, not there. :(

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*wink*

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Edited: May 10, 2007, 04:53am EDT

 
>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
Here's one freeware program that takes a different approach, allowing you to use command line options.

So you can create a shortcut to a batch file that pre-sets the volume before starting a specific game.

This looks like it has the same value-add that hotkeys had as well. You could setup several batch files for the same game, and just click on the shortcut that loads the volume profile you want depending on what you're doing and when you're doing it.

I included the info on how to do that.

It depends on how the game is generating sounds as so far it looks like it only handles a handful of audio parameters.

I'm going to give this one a try.

John



http://fp.futuresights.com/~angstrom/volumizer.html
Volumizer
Download Volumizer 2.0.1 (420 KB)
http://fp.futuresights.com/~angstrom/cgi-bin/countdown.cgi?volumizer.zip

Volumizer lets you save "sound schemes" of your system's volume settings, similar to how Windows now lets you save "color schemes" under Display Properties.
Volumizer lets you interactively set the volume levels for 4 standard volume controls (CD, Line-in, MIDI and Wave) just like the standard Windows mixer controls. However, Volumizer also lets you save your settings as a "sound scheme", and easily recall those settings at any time.
Features
* Interactively set the 4 standard volume controls: CD audio, Line-in, MIDI, and Wave
* Save multiple different "sound scheme" for instant recall at any time
* Command-line options for use in a batch file or script
* Display as system tray icon, taskbar icon, or both
* Free!

Volumizer is completely free.

Volumizer Command-Line Options
Volumizer can be started using several command-line parameters to automatically load a certain sound scheme, or programatically set certain volume levels.
Usage: volumizer.exe <parameters>

All command-line parameters are optional. If no parameters are specified, the program will start normally. If any parameters are specified, the program will run with those parameters. If you want the program to close immediately after setting the volume levels, use the "/X" parameter.
Parameters:

/S:"<scheme>" - load the specified sound scheme
/C: - set the CD volume level to "xxx"*
/L: - set the Line-In volume level to "xxx"
/M: - set the Midi volume level to "xxx"
/W: - set the Wave volume level to "xxx"
/X - immediately close after loading other parameters
* where "xxx" = 0-255
eg.
volumizer /C:150 /L:0 /M:0 /W:200
volumizer /S:"My Sound Scheme" /X

Sample Batch File
Volumizer's command-line options are ideal for using in a batch file used to start a game or program.
For example, to load a certain sound scheme every time you run a program, you could use notepad to create a simple batch file as follows:
@echo off
volumizer /S:"My Sound Scheme" /X
c:\gamedir\mygame.exe

Save the file as "mybatchfile.bat" and create a Windows shortcut pointing to this file. The batch file sets your desired sound level, and automatically runs the program.

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Edited: May 13, 2007, 11:36pm EDT

 
>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
I ran across an update list for the QuickMix utility (see my above post of May 09, 2007, 11:22pm MDT )

The list suggests QuickMix can process command-line parameters. If that is true, it makes QuickMix much more useful, and probably a better program than Volumizer for this situation.


edit to add-20070513 QuickMix author confirms QuickMix handles command-line parms. The info becomes available only after installation. He also told me the program is provided as a convenience and has no formal support. If Volumizer has support, even with less functionality, it might thus be a better choice for some people.

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>> Re: Independent Program Volume Control for Windows XP?
I have a solution for you but I will PM it to you and if anyone else wants the solution PM me.

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If you have a solution to where you are not trying to sell a product, then post it here. Otherwise, I think he resolved the problem shortly after he posted this. Not only that, but he has made the switch over to Vista.

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I am not selling a product. vista suxs and switching to vista right now would be the worst thing anyone could do. horrible operation system that should still be in development not in the market.

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what is your problem with Vista, don't ressurect old threads just to p**s all over Vista, which isnt a bad operating system at all. I installed Biz x64 3 days before it came out (courtesy of MS giveaway) and have not had to look back at all.

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Aggressive Prefector said:
I am not selling a product. vista suxs and switching to vista right now would be the worst thing anyone could do. horrible operation system that should still be in development not in the market.

As I have stated, if you cant backup yoru claims then dont bother posting. Most of the "senior" users around here including myself use Vista.

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Aggressive Prefector said:
I am not selling a product. vista suxs and switching to vista right now would be the worst thing anyone could do. horrible operation system that should still be in development not in the market.



lol sounds like what I use to sound like. Now look at me vista premium X64 and will most likely never go back.

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Vista is about to come into its prime. Service Pack 1 is less than two months away. I'm skipping Vista for Server 2008--not big into OS upgrades.

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