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Willz Brown Apr 22, 2003, 05:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I am running the following:

Philips 107e 17" monitor
Jetway 663as ultra motherboard
Athlon 1.333 t/bird
2 sticks pc133 256memory oem
geforce 2 mx 32mb
western digital cavair20gb 7,200
artis sound card(crap but does the job for me)
windows 98se

The problem is only from i changed the processor from my 800duron to the 1.333 athlon.I have changed nothing in the bios other than the jumper for the 100mhz to 133 mhz for the athlon processor.The settings in the bios are set as optimised .

Now when i play any games the pc crash to desk top or when i start the game and the games plays a few minutes then crashes to desktop.

When i run paint shop pro which apart from games is the only other software i run it never has a problem.

I have changed the jumper back and put the duron back in and have no crashes at all.I have taken the processor back to my father who gave it to me and put it back into his and it runs fine no crashes so i think its safe to say the processor is ok.

Is there anything in the bios which needs to be changed.I understand nothing about what it all means so a plain option and setting change would be easy to follow for me if anyone can help me out.You know enable disabble sort off thing.

i have installed the latest drivers for everything and it still happins with the athlon in so i believe it must be in the bios settings some where.

Not sure though need someones expert advive.If you live in Ireland i will personal buy you a pint or two first for getting me sortted and gettiong the kids off my back while they are off school lol.





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Richard Rolls Apr 22, 2003, 05:41am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
You said the settings were optimised. have you:
1. Checked if your M/B needs a jumper to distinguish between
Athlon/Duron ( or is the chip a Palamino?).

2. Fan/heatsink doing it's job? (ie system not overheating and shutting down.

Don't know if it helps...

Willz Brown Apr 22, 2003, 05:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
All i know is its a ddr processor 1.333 athlon i only changes the jumper cause it was when i put it in reg as a 1g processor then .With the jumper it now reads as a 1.333 processor.

As far as i believe its not over heating the fan was the fan for the processor and the same fan which my father has run on it for the last year trouble free.

I will look to see if it says somewhere in the manual about settings jumper for duron to athlon .

Thanks i hope there is will let you know asap

Willz Brown Apr 22, 2003, 05:56am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
there are only 2 jumpers one for the clearing off the bios and the other for cpu fsb which i have changed already from default 100mhz to 133 mhz.


Willz Brown Apr 22, 2003, 09:19am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
Right i was just thinking off what else to do and took off my glare screen from the monitor.I the noticed that when the games crash there is a green line across the very top off the screen in small verticle sections left to right like a fence.

Could this be a hint to gfx card failure or maybe as previously asked gfx card over heating.This geforce 2 i have had in from they came out.Could the thermal paste need replaced in between the cooling fan on it?

Or anyone else have an idea.

Willz Brown Apr 22, 2003, 07:37pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
mother board spec incase it helps:

FEATURES
Support Socket-A for AMD Athlon /Duron TM uni-proccessor at 266MHz Front Side Bus with double data rate
VIA Apollo KT133A(VT8363A) System controller and VT82C686B PCI to ISA bridge
Support ATA 100
Extend AGP Slot Support 4X AGP
Support VCM SDRAM
PC'99 Ready & PC'99 Colorful I/O Ports Design
Support USB Controller & PS/2 Mouse , Standard IR (infrared) Function
Provide extra " three-wire" fans connectors
JumperLess
Frequency Magic Setting
PC Health Monitoring On Post Screen
Magic Install
Support Add CPU Voltage Select in BIOS setup.From +0.1V ~ +0.075V(one step 0.025V)
Auto Power OFF when CPU FAN malfunction to protect CPU
SDRAM Asynchronous choice for PC133 DIMM (133MHz) when system clock is 100MHz to increase system performance
BIOS Auto Detect CPU voltage
Y2K Compliant
ACPI Supporting For OS Directed Power Management
Modem Ring remote wake up
RTC alarm wake up
Wake on LAN For OS
Support software suspend & power off
Support Power Button Ride (Instant off or Delay 4 second power off)
SPECIFICATION
Processor
Support Socket-A for AMD Athlon /Duron TM uni-proccessor at 266MHz Front Side Bus with double data rate
Chipset
VIA Apollo KT133A(VT8363A) System controller and VT82C686B PCI to ISA bridge
CPU Bus Frequency
CPU Bus Frequency , Choose One Step Add 1MHz From 100MHz Up to 166MHz in BIOS Setup (Frequency Magic Setting)
Jumpless
Support Jumpless Function by BIOS SETUP Let Users More Easier to Change The Frequency
Expansion Slot
Five 32-bit PCI Bus Master slots
One 16-bit ISA Bus Slots
One AMR Slot
System Memory
Support 64 bit DRAM memory Interface (66/100/133MHz)
Support 3 Banks of SDRAM from 8Mbyte to 1.5GByte Main Memory
Support SDRAM & Virtual Channel SDRAM (VCM SDRAM)
3 X 168-pins DIMM Scockets
SDRAM Asynchronous choice for PC133 DIMM (133MHz) when system clock is 100MHz to increase system performance
On Board IDE
Support 2 X IDE Connectors for up to 4 IDE Drives
Support PIO Mode 3 and Mode 4 and Bus Master IDE DMA, Mode 4 Timing for up to 16M Bytes/s
Support UTRA DMA-100 Bus Master IDE, Provide faster transfer rate up to 100M Bytes/s
Support LS-120 / ZIP Device
AGP SLOT
Support 4X AGP VGA Mode for 266MHz of AD and SBA signaling
Pipelined split transaction long-burst transfers up to 1GB/sec
On Board Hardware PCI sound chip
Fully Compliant AC97 Analog I/O Component
48-Terminal TQFP package
Multibit Converter Architecture for inproved S/N ratio greater than 90dB
16-Bit Stereo Full-Duplex Codec
4 Analog Line-Level Stereo Input
High Quality CD Input With Ground Sense
Stereo Line Level Output
Hardware Sound Blaster Pro for Windows Dos box and real-mode DOS legacy compatibility
Sound Driver for Windows 95/98 , Windows 2000 & Windows NT4.0 , Media Rack
On Board Ultra I/O
2 X Serial Ports (16550 Fast UART Compatible)
1 X Parallel Port (EPP and ECP capabilities)
1 X Floppy Disk Connector (Supports 2 Floppy Drivers)
1 X PS2 Mouse Connector
1 X Keybord Cnnector
2 X Three Wire FAN Connector (Include CPU FAN)
1 X LINE IN / LINE OUT / Microphone Connector
1 X Game Port Connector (Support Two Joysticks)
2 X Analog Audio CD Music line Connectors (different connector)
1 X Consumer IR Connector
1 X Standard IR Connector (Infrared)
VIA Health Monitor
VIA Hareware Monitoring to Track CPU & SYSTEM Temperature, Voltage, Fan speed, Monitoring your Computer
Driver For Win95/98 and NT4.0
On Board USB
4 X USB Ports Connector
Support USB Keyboard & USB Mouse
Power Saving
ACPI/APM Power Management
Modem Ring remote wake up
RTC Alarm Wake up
Support Software Suspend & Power off
Wake on LAN For OS
Support Power Button Ride (Instant off or Delay 4 second power off)
Power Supply
Support 20-pin ATX power supply (ATX-PW)
BIOS
Award BIOS , Support Green function, Plug and Play Function
2MBit Flash ROM
Dimension
ATX Form Factor with 30.5cm X 21cm


Drizzit Apr 23, 2003, 03:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
Might need to update your BIOS!!
Try this site:
http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/download/bios/index-1.htm#kt133

Willz Brown Apr 25, 2003, 02:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
Just flashed the bios reset the cmos and its still happens.

Any other ideas please

ant decto Apr 25, 2003, 03:16pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
Boot the PC up with the duron

within windows go to control panel > system/device manager .. depends on version.

from the list of devices right click on the processor and select uninstall.

Shut down the PC, install the Athlon and reboot.

I've never tried this proceedure with a CPU but it may just work.

Regards
AD

System in Bio
Willz Brown Apr 25, 2003, 03:38pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
I will give it ago have to wait till tomorrow no thermal paste to change them over again.

But i will do tomorrow morning and post what happins.

Thanks all for the help much appreciated.

Willz Brown Apr 26, 2003, 11:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
well what it has done is lets me play for about 2 hours before a crash.You could nearly time it to the minute.

Now have another glich sometimes when i do a start up it boots twice as in,when it get to the password screen it then boots again running scan disc then goes to desktop?


Is the removal off the processor support fron system devices a cause offf this

James Crowley May 08, 2003, 08:13am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
Ok try to set from optimal to lower setting and see if it does it allso check the cpu temp (just touch it) if it is to hot to touch it is overheating (could be fan failture replace fan ) allso like said before update bios also look on the MB site for problems with cpus. I have had lock ups like yours and it allways seems to be cpu overheating or a bios setting. good luck

James Crowley May 08, 2003, 08:15am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
Allso check for patch updates for the game . Becasue most of the newer games are made on new os systems you might find solution with a patch..

Jason Simper Mar 10, 2004, 12:17pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
i am also using a Jetway 663AS Ultra motherboard with VT8363 northbridge & 686A southbruidge(integrated sound chip).

was using with Geforce MX100/200 video card

replaced after xmas 2003 with Geforce FX 5200, fan on video card now dead(not cooling processor), behind processor on video card, is feeling a bit hot.

Have now replaced with Sapphire Radeon 9200 series.

I have tested new memory(had 256mb, now have 512mb memory) with memtest 3 on boot-up floppy, no problems.

Also, using AMD 1.4GHZ processor, cpu cooling fan making most of the noise, temperature at boot-up is between 70-80 degree, needs new cpu cooling fan?

pc crashing every 1/2 hour to an hour and a half with 0x00000005, 0x0000000A, 0x000000C2, 0x0000008E, 0x0000007E BSOD error.

any advice?

porkchop Mar 10, 2004, 02:17pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
are the temps you gave C* or F*
what size is your power supply



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Jason Simper Mar 10, 2004, 02:50pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
300w power supply


Jason Simper Mar 10, 2004, 02:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
also the temperature is in 70-80 C* not F*

Jim Harr Mar 10, 2004, 03:25pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
This sounds very much like an overheat problem. CPU should be around 50C at idle.

Ensure CPU heatsink is fitted correctly.
That you did use Thermal Paste (or pad) before fitting Heat Sink.
Heat sink is fitted correct way round
Heat Sink Fan is working correctly.
You have good airflow around the cPU.

Check the temps again with the case side off, and if you have a desk fan - direct this at the CPU.
If all above ok I would get a better CPU Heat Sink Fan

James Crowley Mar 11, 2004, 04:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
As most of you seem to agree on is it is a temp over heat problem .I think he should check the video card for over heating . Check if it is to hot to the touch. Your card will shut down your pc. sence most game's reguire a lot of proceses the gpu will get real hot and with you having a faster cpu your video proceses are a lot faster which means hotter gpu I mean that I think is the logical effect .

Jim

Brendan MacG Apr 13, 2004, 07:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Crashing Pc after athlon processor upgrade
I have similar problems i am running an AMD Athlon 2600+ on a GA-7N400-L1 with a 107E monitor. I have had some overheating problems but now have them under control but Medieval Total War, Age of empires II, Europa Universalis II and a couple of other games crash to the desktop. However games life Half-life and its mods run fine not a problem. Also my processor clocks at about 2Ghz, is that right i have been told it should be around 2.1 to 2.2 Ghz?


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