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Sean Costello Jun 12, 2008, 12:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/06/06/western-digital-workin...m-raptor/1


Hot damn, the response and write times would be ridiculous.



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Edited: Jun 12, 2008, 01:19am EDT

 
>> Re: 20k Raptor In the Works
sources said that the drive will be ‘silent’


Wow. That is an added bonus. Also, a housing that acts as a heat sink will be a cool feature.

I am going to assume this will be extremely expensive. Will it be worth it with SSD as another option?

I don't think so.

Sean Costello Jun 12, 2008, 01:23am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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im guessing its gonna be a $300-$500 drive.

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>> Re: 20k Raptor In the Works
You're probably right, and what capacities will it come in?

If they could bring it out sooner, then the market for it would be much better.

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I've heard of this a few months ago. Something about a built in RAID 0 array within the drive from what I've heard. If this is the case along with the 20,000 RPM, wouldn't it be like two of them in RAID 0 all packed into one package? Can two of these fit in a 3.5" housing or something?


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>> Re: 20k Raptor In the Works
im hopeing the capacity is at least 150.


Super i think its just one drive, not two in one.

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Wow, I didn't thought SSd's were posing a threat, considering the low capacity that they have and the murderous brutal prices. Do you guys think they will lower in price that much? I mean a 64gb SSd costs a whooping $900.

Oh well as long as this moves Hard Drive technology forward then it's ok I guess.

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But the countless advantages of SSD are what will make it prosper.

The price of SSD will drop, and capacity will increase.

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waaaayyyyy to late. by the time they release it, the prices for ssd's will have drop so low that even if it could beat there performance it, it would still not be feasable. not to mention the added noise of a 20k rpm motor and disc spinning up and down or it's sensetivity to shock. can you imagine a read/write jumping around on a 20k rpm platter? since these drives will be geared for the consumer...or performance enthusiast, i doubt that they will put in the effort to achieve the quality of an enterprise class scsi or sas drive.

impressing numbers but i would not in my wildest dreams throught that kind of money at it

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20,000 RPM, holy cows! Any faster, it will explode! LOL ;)

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Meats of Evil said:
Wow, I didn't thought SSd's were posing a threat, considering the low capacity that they have and the murderous brutal prices. Do you guys think they will lower in price that much? I mean a 64gb SSd costs a whooping $900.


I guarantee they will, most of the cost right now is research and development, plus yields. The manufacturing process isn't that expensive when comparing everything else.

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Super XP said:
I've heard of this a few months ago. Something about a built in RAID 0 array within the drive from what I've heard. If this is the case along with the 20,000 RPM, wouldn't it be like two of them in RAID 0 all packed into one package? Can two of these fit in a 3.5" housing or something?




from what I can remember reading.... the built-in raid 0 functionality is taking the total capacity of the drive and split it in half and then creating a raid 0 array..... By the way, this 20k drive is just like their up coming VelociRaptor where the formfactor will be 2.5" mounted to a 3.5" formfactor heatsink.

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SuPeR Xp Jun 13, 2008, 10:39am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sean Costello said:
im hopeing the capacity is at least 150.


Super i think its just one drive, not two in one.

O.K. just heard about 2 drives from somewhere. The Capasity from what I've read on another forum is going to be 300GB.

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FordGT90Concept Jun 13, 2008, 11:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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They don't even have any 15k drives available and they have this ambitious goal of 20k? I think they are being either plain stupid or this is a diversionary tactic. Seagate, Fijitsu, and Hewlett Packward (all 15k drive producers) would have aimed for 20k drives if they thought it was feasible and fiscally sound. They haven't so that should tell you something...

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FordGT90Concept said:
They don't even have any 15k drives available and they have this ambitious goal of 20k? I think they are being either plain stupid or this is a diversionary tactic. Seagate, Fijitsu, and Hewlett Packward (all 15k drive producers) would have aimed for 20k drives if they thought it was feasible and fiscally sound. They haven't so that should tell you something...


Agreed. I bet "20k" ends up being two drives, each running at 10k rpm...lol

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Yeah, that does make sense. 2 x 10k RPM platers stripped between the platters which theoretically means it handles data at the speed of a 20k RPM even though it isn't. That makes sense--but dirty.

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FordGT90Concept said:
Yeah, that does make sense. 2 x 10k RPM platers stripped between the platters which theoretically means it handles data at the speed of a 20k RPM even though it isn't. That makes sense--but dirty.


The 74 and 150 GB raptors already have 2 platters.... This "Internal RAID" idea people keep passing around is already being implemented. All large hard drives are using mulitple platters each with their own read head. You guys need to disassemble an old hard drive.

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No... I think the difference is how data is split across the platters. Modern drives have all the data in line on the platter. What WD is trying to do is place the data parallel across the platters instead of just on one. That way all heads are reading/writing the same piece of information at the same time. If you have two platters, that means the drive only has to spin half the distance in order to get all the information. The downside to it is the same as RAID0 where small files consume at least two sectors instead of fitting to just one.

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Let's hope they don't start screwing around with "virtual" RPM. That's just going to be bad for everyone. But, if marketing can make a buck off such a blatant and mis-leading mis-representation, I bet there's no avoiding it.

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Agreed. It spins at the speed it spins. Try not to exagerate it just to grab up all the idiot buyers. That is just cruel. XD

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FordGT90Concept said:
Agreed. It spins at the speed it spins. Try not to exagerate it just to grab up all the idiot buyers. That is just cruel. XD


meh, just let marketing and natural selection take over.

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