Just came to tell you that the last 2 months Ive learned what the Fraze "Dont judge a book by its cover" means.
I recenlty bought 2 MacBook Pro`s.
! is a 2.5Gighz 17 inch and other one is 2.4Gighz 15 inch.
And I bought a 2.4Gighz 17 inch about 5 months before.

The 2 new ones are both running Bootcamp with Windows XP.
NOTE "these where bought from an official I-Store."

About 2 weeks ago while working in Photoshop I started smelling something really bad like something burning and then the Mac made a few weird things on the screen and then I switched it off.
After that it didnt want to go on again.
Right....soo
No worries cause I have warranty cause its only about 5 months old.

I carry on doing my work on another Mac.The Brand new 2.5Gighz.
I am not kidding you!!! After about 6 hours of work the screen goes of but the Mac is still running and when you look really close you can see that theres stil things going on.
So I figured its the Back lamp light that gone off.
Weird enough,Soo I keep pressing the little button that makes the screen brighter but still nothing.I could see the little blocks become more though but nothing happend.
After a couple of restarts in disbelief the screens lamp light didnt go on.
This Mac though also had the tendancy to make the sound glitchey while the Airport card is on.Like a really bad stretching of sound.(While running XP though)

So...My only option was to take the 2.4Gighz and as most of you know its quite a drag to work with Photoshop on a 15 inch screen.
Anycase I had work to do so I Carried on working.
But this computer I noticed a really weird clicking sound.Now from my PC experience this is quite a common problem with HD`s as they call it "The click of death"
Its basically just your Hard Drive giving up on you or soon will.
But it was still running and that gave me time to finish.
Because its another family members Mac I never noticed the clicking up until now.
After being really pist and confused the "?" buttons pops of while my thumb swings over it coming from the s**tft key.What is going on??
The next day I took all 3 of them back to the I-store and explained what went wrong.
The guy starts of telling me..

The 2.4Gighz 17inch has a Faulty Logicboard (A.K.A Motherboard) and that they can replace it for free.
Good enough.

While busy explaining the 2.5Gigz`s probem he stopped me and started telling me whats going on!
"Yes this is a common problem as its a faulty Backlight.And yes we can fix that FOR FREE"

ARE YOU Fkn KIDDING ME???
2 brand new 2300$ and 2500$ MACs with their HUGE name??

So now to the 2.4Gighz.
I told him the Hard Drive is making clicking sounds and that the "?" Buttons poped of while working.
He said well sorry we cant fix that because the button has been broken of."showing me the evidince I said fine Ill buy a new button.
Gues what...Ohhh nooo THATS not allowed.Youl have to buy a new Keyboard layout.
And as for the Hard Drive.
Yes we can fix that.

But come on guys......
Is it just me or am I having the worst weak of my life?
OR is it just THE wonderfull quality of THE BIG APPLE.

Please tell me what you think!

I found this to be very interesting, seeing as how the Mac book Pro's received such highly praise and reviews. It makes me wonder if they're just stylish on the outside but use low quality components to make a huge profit since the laptops are a bit expensive imo.

Your case somewhat demonstrates that indeed they're being build with low quality components and in your line of work you used the laptop to a pre-mature death, meaning possibly that they're not built to last? Or maybe you just had the absolute most rotten luck and bought from a bad store or bought 3 faulty macbooks?

Either way I'm interested in how they'll perform once they're "fixed for free " and how much they'll last you.

You should post back the result even if it's months from now

At least they are fixing the newer computers for free; however, there shouldn't be any problems at all with them...

Either you got really bad staticial probability of encountering no problems or the computers are built to break but, in your case, they broke too soon.


Meh, I still would never buy an Apple product. They are way too proprietary and have little good to show for it.

And they are really way over priced!

Well confirms what i always knew macs sucks. I would never own a mac or give Steve Jobs my money. They all suck even the IPHONE.

While you seem to have had some seriously bad luck on the MacBook front, I cannot agree that Mac's are bad.

They do build really great computers (though personally I prefer the customisability of a PC), and I quite like OSX.

Yea I should say that the OS is quite ok.They have some pretty neat Ideas besides the fact that about 80% if not more of the programs are only for Windows based comps.
One thing I really find irrtating is the "No second button on the Mighty Mouse"
Why are they so stubern?Its just so much easier to work with a mous that has 2 buttons.
The one button koncept just doesnt work for me.It fatigues my arm(not really).

R G said:

Psst...click on the right side of the mouse...presto, it's a right click! See, that wasn't so hard, was it?

Rofl.
Nope sorry...doesnt work for me??
Ohh what you gonna tell me I got a s**tty mouse from the I-Store aswell?

I like OSx BUT DISLIKE the giant price tag that comes on virtually every Mac.

I also dislike the fact some games etc, don't run on OS x and that unless you upgrade through them you might get boned by a part not running with OSx.

Other than that, OSx is cool, but Apple as a whole is not

I never had good luck with Apple computers or OS X in general, until I decided to run OS X Leopard on my PC and that gave me zero problems. It runs better then any real Mac I have ever used.

f**k the one click mouse, but I think they have 2 click mice now.

I don't really like the look of MACs or the price/performance ratio, but I like OSX and I have never really had a major problem with them through use, apart from them locking up with that little rainbow loading mouse icon for about 5 minutes.

I would never buy one, because it does nothing better that a PC would do which costs less. But that's just my opinion.

Kieran Blenkarne said:

They are expensive, but very decent machines that look good and perform very well.

You can pretty much stick any USB mouse into a Mac, and have the buttons function correctly, or set it up as you like - but their stubborness for the 1 button mouse is a bit annoying. The mighty miuse does have a 'side' button, which you could configure as a right mouse click (ctrl+click) but it just feels un-natural.

I love the dock in OSX, if Windows had something similar it would be a great addition.

My main gripe with OSX is this - you close down a programs window, ut the program keeps running, until you switch to it and tell it to close dwn from the program menu - thats really annoying.

I dont know how many times I've been working away, wondering why it seems slow, only to find that indesign, photoshop etc etc are still bloomin' running!

Yea I fins that all the time.
At first I liked the whole apple scene.
But now that Xp`s on the machine ill much rater use it because of software compatibility.
Ive never tried uninstalling a program in Mac OS-Leopard but I heard its quite a mission.

What's worse is (stating the obvious here) Apple has a cultist following. Few Apple users would rather look away than admit to shortcomings:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/08/29/apple.loyal.ap/index.html

Democrats use Apples
Independents use PCs
Republicans use Pen and Paper

ROFL! That's pretty close to the truth. Then again, Bush said he loved his email but gave it up due to security reasons when entering the oval office. I don't know if the secret service (or some other agency) required Bush to stop or not.


I wonder if Apple causes people to become stubborn or if Apple simply lures the stubborn ones in like insects to a light.

Benefit of an Apple PC:
1. A decent OS, thanks large part to its Unix core. Back in when they have OS 9 or older, they sucked big time. The Unix core improved Mac's stability and security greatly. Besides a few neat utils, all the rest are just pretty declarations and the same old Mac philosophies.

2. Intel chipset. Betters the older PowerPC chips. No more big endian. And brings only a thin line of difference between a PC and an Apple, chipset-wise. In turn improves compatibility with Windows.

That's about it. Notice neither is because of Apple directly. And yes, all there remains is Bullsh*t, indeed. There is nothing you can do in a Mac, that a PC can't do.

Remember, as discuss in another thread, which went into great length in looking at Apple's hardware engineering ( http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/68956/?o=20#513265 ):

Dragon Peaceful said:
Intel processors (x86) are little endian. Motorola (including PowerPC) are big endian. IBM was no longer going to supply processors so Apple was forced to look at either Intel or Texas Instruments. TI really doesn't offer anything for IBM-PC compatible computers so they came knocking on Intel's door. Intel, of course, answered. Windows has always been a little endian product. Apple had to adapt to the Windows world through an alliance with Intel.

You're right. Me so confused about endians.

I LOVE the 68000 Motorola Chips! The hardware was great!
I hated the monolythic, benevolent dictator taste that apple brought to the 68000, and have never recovered from it.....nor does it seem Apple themselves.
If I did have a time machine, and could only use it once, I'd have a huge dilemma over whether to go back and:
A.) Keep Wozniak at Apple.
B.) Keep Bill Gates from stealing what would become MSDOS.
C.) Keep Jack Tramiel from the Amiga Computer
D.) Making Hitler a respected artist (thus keeping him from politics).
E.) Telling a certain Roman that allowing the people to decide would just "F-up" the next 2000 years of history.

Apple DOES usually deliver on what they say they can do, but at the cost of Actual Individuallity. Bizarre how that works out isn't it?
The seeming monolythic IBM standard, though IBM as divested from the PC market, is that IT is the dynamic environment now, thus the less standardized, easy to use and reliable standard.
Isn't it interesting how the marketing of a product has become more real than the product itself?

Apple makes a good product overall, and I'm sorry that you've had a bad week/month.
I don't use thier products because I disagree with the closed box mentality.
Working with a closed box does lead to higher reliability and usually higher ROI.
But a closed box does not lead to huge gains (or the inverse of losses), and seems to be a "safe" environment.

I guess it's all about your risk tolerance or aversion.
I want to be free, no matter what the risk, but my clients need a safe working environment.