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A_Pickle Dec 30, 2008, 11:23am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey guys!

I have done some poking around on Newegg... and, I've rather totally revamped the desktop I intend to buy. I decided to go ahead and purchase the Razer Copperhead mouse and the Tritton 5.1 surround sound headphones, along with an ASUS Xonar U1 (the USB Xonar -- it blows the effing pants off of my previous USB SoundBlaster Live! 24-bit External) -- so those expenses are nixed, and the resulting price will be that of the desktop and only the desktop.

I decided to do a complete revamp of the desktop after coming to the realization that, frankly, $1,600+ is a bit much to blow away on a desktop that could do most everything I want it to do for quite a bit cheaper -- especially given the price of computer parts these days.

It just so happens that, since my last update of this thread, AMD has launched the "competitive" versions of it's Phenom processors (the Phenom II's, imaginatively :D). And, it just so happens, that the Phenom system that I built on Newegg undercuts the Intel Core 2 Quad system by a close $60-ish dollars. What does that mean? Well, it means that hell hath frozen over, and that, yes -- it looks like I will be getting a Phenom II-powered system. Super XP, you may get all giddy and faint now.

I still have the same basic requirements for the system:
1.) I want a quiet system.
2.) I want a "premium" gaming experience -- IE, good image quality, good in-game performance (1920x1200, 4x AA, 8x AF, 40 FPS in CoD 4 -- that's my baseline) and good audio.
3.) I want good multithreaded performance -- which means I won't be settling for a fast dual-core or triple-core, I want Premiere and 3dsmax to go fast.

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128381
I looked at most of the X58 motherboards, and once again the Federa- er, I mean, Gigabyte's offering seems to offer the best featureset and port layout for my needs. Whee!

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 920
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103472
Apparently the Phenom II 920 and 940 are quite competitive with the Core 2 Quad Q9300 and Q9400 in a LOT of benchmarks of multiple varieties. They perform well in gaming to 3D rendering, and potentially offer a superior upgrade path. At the moment, unfortunately, the good Phenom II's are only available in AM2+, but... eh.

Memory: OCZ Gold 8GB (4 x 2GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227290
Again, my condolences to Señor McFly and his G.Skill, but... I haven't had the best of luck with them. OCZ has treated me pretty well in the past. And I'm getting 8 GB so that Beavis will stop pointing this gun to my head and leave my friggin' apartment... :D

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319
Your suggestions have added two years of warranty to my original selection. Thanks!

Graphics Card: Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 4850 1 GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125258
So, I've pretty thoroughly decided on this Gigabyte 4850. It's nice, see, because in addition to the fact that this puppy is packing a full gigabyte of onboard video memory, this bitch is also passively-cooled. That's right, you read correctly: This Radeon HD 4850 1 GB has NO fan. Know what that means? You're damn right you do. No noise, that's what that means.

Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132006
After reading reviews of these, and then having heard one myself (with a pair of stereo headphones, no less) I am getting one. They're unbelievable. In addition, I now own the USB "version" of this card, the ASUS Xonar U1 and... I'm speechless. These cards rock. Sorry, G. G, but... down with the Creative hegemony! Víva la revolucíon!

Power Supply: Zalman ZM600-HP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817379003
Originally I was going with the 750 watt version of this power supply, but... I just don't think it's necessary.

Case: Cooler Master Cosmos 1000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119138
It's a cool-looking, high quality, sound-absorptive case that none of my friends own. It also has a front panel with every connector imaginable: A headphone jack, microphone jack, FOUR USB ports, a firewire port, and an eSATA port. Finally, a proper set of front panel connectors. <3


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Reason   Dec 30, 2008, 01:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Nice setup. A few comments:

Do you intend to OC? If not, you might save a few bucks on that CPU cooler.

Same goes for the video card/cooler/fan.

The Xonar sounds like a great card, but those who are having a problem seem to be having a hard time getting it resolved.

Do you *need* a brand new case? You can often find a decent used one on craigslist.

At that price, why not go for a full 8 GB of RAM? Or will that come later?

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PICKLE,


I really have 3 suggestions that you should highly consider...... (gpu, memory, and hdd)


GPU -

Rather than settling on Sapphire 4870 512mb w/non reference cooler.... for 219.00 AND getting Arctic cooler and Fan for an additional 40.00 Totalling 260.00....

Get the Sapphire 4870 1GB w/non reference cooler for 239.99 with 15.00 mail-in rebate for a total of 224.99 (free shipping).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801



The reason I suggest this is because even though both cards will have the same core/mem speeds, the additional memory will benefit your 1920x1200 resolution and above. Plus, the fan on this card is very quiet out of the box. With stock fan settings, the card will run ~54C idle and ~68C load (going on my memory).... BUT... with CAT 8.12, you can preset/adjust the fan speed... stock settings is at 16%.... Manually set at 35% will result in temps ~46C idle and ~55C load... AND at 35% the fan is still silent. I can tell you this is because I have this card and totally pleased with it. The best card that I have ever owned barn none...



Memory -


Rather than settling for Kingston HyperX 1066 4gb for a total of 51.99......


Get Corsair Dominator 1066 4gb - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145214 for 69.00 with 30.00 mail-in rebate for a total of 39.00 (free shipping)


Reason I suggest this is because...... originally, I had that very same exact Kingston HperX 1066 memory but in 2GB version..... but changed my mind to go with a total of 4GB and then I chosed the Cosair Dominator...

The thing I noticed between the two memory is that..... HyperX would be recognized in my motherboard as 800 speed upon bootup and then I had to change the Memory strapping to get it to run at 1066... But still in bios, it would show a display of 800 and 1066 at the same time.

BUT.... with the Corsair.... that same odd looking memory display in bios NOW shows 1066 + 1066.... Also my mb recoginzed it as 5-5-5-18.... I manually set the timings to 5-5-5-15. Also I set the memory volts to 2.08v. All is stable... By the way..... my motherboard (if you are wondering).... is a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R.... so practically we would be family if you get that UD3P version..... it is definately a great motherboard..



HDD -

Rather than going with the WD 640gb WD6400AAKS drive for 74.99.......


May I suggest going with the WD 640gb WD6401AALS drive for 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

Reason I suggest this is because, for 5.00 bucks more.... you get two processor on the interface card, you get 32mb cache vs 16mb cache for the AAKS, and most importantly of all....... you get a 5year warranty (http://support.wdc.com/warranty/policy.asp#policy) vs the 3yr warranty for the AAKS....




as you can see...... since I have the Sapphire 4870 1GB w/non reference cooler, originally had the Kingston HyperX 1066 (now with the Cosair Dominator) and most of all a Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R........ I have a little insight of the components.....

When I finally got to build my new system (all within the last month)..... my first priority is to build something that I can hope to last me 3~4yrs.... since once I build it... i will not be able to upgrade or build a new system anytime soon... so it gotta last me. By the time I reach 3.5~4yrs........ i would be definately be ready for a new system... Plus.... as a whole, it would be a huge improvement in upgrades VS the incremental upgrades if one were to upgrade when the winds change or sooner than two years....


With my suggestions above, you will in the long run.... save more money and have more features.

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Beavis Khan Dec 30, 2008, 01:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Point 1 - way to pilfer my mobo/CPU combo there, champ. Both excellent choices if I do say so myself. :)

Point 2 - decades in the making, and you're only going 4GB RAM?!? Drop to DDR2 800 and max out those slots! I will mock you for all time if you only go 4GB! OK maybe not for all time, but you get the idea :P

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Bungle Dec 30, 2008, 02:33pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I couldn't agree more with the 4870 1GB suggestion.

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Michael C Dec 30, 2008, 02:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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lol @ not getting the 1GB version.

A_Pickle Dec 30, 2008, 05:25pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Do you intend to OC? If not, you might save a few bucks on that CPU cooler.
I don't plan to, but I want it to be nice and comfortable. Besides, the Xigmatek isn't terribly expensive, especially when you consider just how well it performs at cooling. And, I don't know if I'll OC or not, but I may in the future when my system isn't quite so apt at gaming...

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Same goes for the video card/cooler/fan.
Honestly, the Accelero and the Turbo Module were there to remedy a 4850, and I just kept them when I upped the GPU to a 4870. Most of the stock, plastic heatsinks are noisy, though, and... near-silent operation is something I'm looking for here. I'm even thinking about replacing every Cooler Master case fan with Scythe S-Flexes, at about $14.00 a pop. Quietness. Do want.

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Point 2 - decades in the making, and you're only going 4GB RAM?!? Drop to DDR2 800 and max out those slots! I will mock you for all time if you only go 4GB! OK maybe not for all time, but you get the idea
While this is true... I was looking at this (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/08/is-more-memory-better/1) article from Bit-Tech.net, and... 8 GB really doesn't seem all that appealing. 4 GB seems to be the sweet spot, and... I figured I'd just chill there with an extra 266 MHz until 8 GB becomes more standard...

I may end up getting the 1 GB 4870, and I may end up backing down to a 4850. I dunno, but... with the 1 GB version as cheap as it is, that may kill any chance of me going back down to a 4850. Unless they have a cheap 4850 with 1 GB of RAM on it...

EDIT: Scratch that. There's a nice (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125236) Gigabyte 4850 with 1 GB of RAM. I might just go with that...

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this looks like a very nice setup and i think you will have a lot of fun with it.
but i would like to put in my two cents as well

1. Motherboard: i like the UD3P and think it's a good choice. i have the P5Q-E and can recommend it as well. the sound on the board is good and if you go with the Xonar it won't matter anyway.

2. Processor: i would probably go with the E8500. i am not sure how much multitasking you do and if it would be tooo much for a dualcore to handle but for overclocking this would be a better choice. i also would prefer a 45nm cpu over a 65nm cpu. most use less power and run cooler. they also support SSE4 which can make quiet a difference in media en-/decoding, etc. between the two cpu's you picked i'd probably go with the Q6600 as well, just because of the higher multiplier.

3. Heatsink: the XIGMATEK is good no doubt. i take it you done your research. my favorites are still the true and the true extreme. i can also recommand the core contact freezer from sunbeam.
i recently switched to the Swiftech H20-220 Compact. i was inspired by mothow. i am now build out my first WC experience and really gonna get my feet wet. i can only highly recommend this WC kit. it is easy to setup and maintain and your case basically screams for it.

4. Video card is good but i like the suggestion G.G. made. i personally like HIS ATI cards and here are a couple of examples why

HIS Hightech H487F1GP Radeon HD 4870 1GB - $239.99 (750MHZ Core/ 3600MHz Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161247

HIS Hightech H487QT512P Radeon HD 4870 512MB - $259.99 (780MHz Core/ 4000MHz Ram)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161264

5. Memory: this set of OCZ is the same price
OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) - $51.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227362

6. the case is very nice. Newegg also has a side window panel pre made. would be a sweet addition if you are into that
COOLER MASTER RA-1000-SWN1-GP Transparent Acrylic Side Window Panel - $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999187

7: PSU: PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W - $134.99 (99.99 after MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

i hope to see some picks, benches etc once you build


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Beavis Khan Dec 30, 2008, 08:23pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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[quote]Beavis Khan
Point 2 - decades in the making, and you're only going 4GB RAM?!? Drop to DDR2 800 and max out those slots! I will mock you for all time if you only go 4GB! OK maybe not for all time, but you get the idea
While this is true... I was looking at this (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/08/is-more-memory-better/1) article from Bit-Tech.net, and... 8 GB really doesn't seem all that appealing. 4 GB seems to be the sweet spot, and... I figured I'd just chill there with an extra 266 MHz until 8 GB becomes more standard...


They spend the whole article trying to show that 4GB is the sweet spot, and then bail on the last sentence with this gem: "In all, there's no outright conclusion here - but like quad cores, we can't deny that having more spare resources available is always a good thing."

:/

Anyway, plenty of games benefit from 4GB right now. In a couple years it stands to reason plenty of games will benefit from 8GB - and DDR2 will be silly expensive by then (see: DDR). I think I spent....$39?...to go to 8GB, hard to imagine that won't be money well spent. And, contrary to the bit-tech article's fearmongering, that Gigabyte you've selected doesn't seem to have any trouble at all with 4 DIMMs. *shrug*

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why did you pick the Xonar DX over say....... a

Creative Lab's PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024


I didnt get into the detail of any comparison but...... other than the Xonar being 5.00 bucks cheaper than Creative (not much difference when it comes to price).... what is it that pulled you over to Xonar? Does it have anything to do with it just being Creative stigma?


The benefit of staying with Creative X-Fi I would say is the wider support in games ... ie EAX processing... which is important when it come to games and the imerse experience of a game. And that Creative brand to sound is the same as Kleenex is to tissue. Hence the wider support from software producers...

I am sure there are comparable features between the Xonar and X-Fi that going either way would be fine...

Oh two things I would like to bring up if you hadn't notice.....

On the Xonar side, in regards to SPIF in/out...... it only contains SPIF "out" that is shared with LINE/Mic "in".... So in other words.... if you have that connector used as SPIF out to your HT system and then you need a mic for teamspeak or whatever ..... you will have to disconnect and do a switherooo..... that's gonna be a pain in the butocks....

The version of X-Fi above has separate LINE/Mic "in", optical "in", and optical "out" connectors....

And...

It seems that DTS decoding support is missing from Xonar DX product.... and that you would need to upgrade to the Xonar DX2 version to have this feature at an additional 110.00 bucks over the DX version....


The version of X-Fi above has support for DTS-ES decoding.

As for DTS, IMO.... when it is available on a particular movie... On my HT system, DTS is clearer and more expansive over DD... i'm not sure if it is my system or the differences between the two sound format.. but I can tell the difference... I had heard somewhere in the past that DD has a much more compression ratio when compared to DTS, hence DTS being the better sound quality. So as a habit, when I watch a movie, I make DTS the default if it is available (majority of the movies are DD encoded).


I dont know if either of these features I mentioned above would be of any importance to you or not but I figure I would bring it up to you in your quest of that extensive research :D for your new desktop....



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Meats_Of_Evil Dec 31, 2008, 04:40pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yes, G. I too noticed a much clearer sound and crispness to it when I heard it with optical and DTS.

EAX to me makes a damn nice difference in the sound quality in games so if you want that go with the X-fi since the Xonar has been reported to have crackling sound and more issues when trying to use Eax.

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Honestly G.G, part of my selection of the Xonar is the Creative "stigma," as you put it. Truth is, I can't honestly bring myself to cozy up to a company which has very recently admitted that it was deliberately suppressing features existent in their own products which their customers purchased. In addition, I can't really help but wonder why it took Creative the better part of a full year to develop halfway decent drivers for Windows Vista. Honestly, that company needs competition, they've been the only ones developing in-game sound cards since... I can remember. If Creative wants the green colored paper from my wallet, they can earn it -- and they won't by sending cease and desists to Daniel_K and other enterprising customers that just want their money's worth. [/rant]

The thing is, the Xonar's 5.1 surround sound *should* work in any game in which Creative's EAX effects are implemented -- because it basically translates an EAX call into it's own on-hardware format, and then outputs it to speakers. And, according to reviews, it works quite well. Also, the Xonar supports Dolby Digital, which... is good enough for me. I've never heard Dolby or DTS, but... they're about the same, so whatever. I don't even have a digital 5.1 speaker set -- I'm just using a set of Logitech Z-540's on analog connections and they're doing fine... and the Xonar has a front panel header. 'S all I need.

PS: I totally just typed all of that while a bit drunk, with extraordinarily minimal use of the Backspace key. Go me. :D

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It's ok.... folks have choices.... you have choices... you can get whatever you like.... LOL...

My stigma is that You wont see me purchasing a APPLE product anytime soon.... or ever... No iPhone, no iPod or whatever i-something........ and especially NO MAC ... LOL.... i'll look at some other alternative.... LOL....

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G. G. said:
why did you pick the Xonar DX over say....... a

Creative Lab's PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024

Because he knows that my old X-Fi XtremeGamer is going to be target practice next time Pickle and I go shooting. :P

Myself and a mutual friend of Pickle's and mine both have nothing but great experiences with the Xonar. And I've hads**t experience with the X-Fi. :P

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Bitmap said:

Because he knows that my old X-Fi XtremeGamer is going to be target practice next time Pickle and I go shooting. :P

Myself and a mutual friend of Pickle's and mine both have nothing but great experiences with the Xonar. And I've hads**t experience with the X-Fi. :P


Bitmap,

I'll just have to let you know how my experience with the X-Fi Titanium turns out..... I just recieved the particular model i mentioned above about a couple of days ago for my new system. I am slowly building up my system trying to be careful in how I build the OS/Drivers/Apps.... as of today's date.... my system is running beautifully... So prior to installing this card... I need to clean her up... by take an image of my hdd (for safety sakes prior to any major change), disabling the onboard sound, removing onboard sound drivers, clean up registries, install new hardware, and then its drivers/apps... The only part I am kinda stuck as to which direction to go is .... either use the included CD and then go to their website and do the auto update..... OR..... try to figure out which driver and app packages to use with my Vista x64 (kinda difficult because there is so much packages).... hmmmm...

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Bitmap said:
Because he knows that my old X-Fi XtremeGamer is going to be target practice next time Pickle and I go shooting. :P

Myself and a mutual friend of Pickle's and mine both have nothing but great experiences with the Xonar. And I've hads**t experience with the X-Fi. :P


Bitmap, Pickle, or anyone else.........

I dont know about your guys experiences with Creative's X-Fi........ BUT..... I must tell you that I personally had have a totally opposite experience with this product.... Now i dont know if im just lucky or what or maybe I have chosen the right combinations for it to work properly.... but I can tell you that the Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-e product is one excellent product.... My onboard HD audio couldnt put a pimple on a tick's butt.... The sound coming from this product is just superior to that of the onboard HD sound...

As mentioned... I have the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R and the Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-e... I decided to install the drivers and all software bundle from the included CD.... and immediately after installation, I ran the update program and installed all updates... all this on my Vista x64.... Everything worked out perfect without any errors...

Sorry that you guys didn't have the same experience as i .... but I am glad that i made the choice to go with this Creative product.


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G. G. said:

As mentioned... I have the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R and the Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-e...


Maybe it's because I have the older plain old PCI X-Fi Xtreme Music edition card, but I have to say, I've been thoroughly unimpressed with the X-Fi under Vista (Ultimate x64). Sounds skip all the time, or have short periods of garbled output, or long periods of fuzzy/low-fi output - especially when other processes are running. Oddly the screensaver seems to be the worst offender here. WTF? I only have a quad core and 8GB ram, I should hope that's sufficient to keep the X-Fi well fed :) This card was nothing short of brilliant using XP on a dual core with 2GB - hard to believe it could be so mediocre under Vista.

Oh, and Pickle, just get 8GB already you stubborn stubborn bastard! :P

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lol @ 4xAF

Looks like a decent rig, enjoy.

I definitely agree with the 4870 1GB model though, it really helps the card at higher resolutions.

Memory, 1066 V 800.... you're not gonna notice the difference. Most 800 kits will OC to 1066 anyway (they're the same chips), so if you can save $$$ there, thats what I'd suggest, and throw the extra $$ at the gfx card.

The HD that GG suggested is a no brainer.

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......, but I have to say, I've been thoroughly unimpressed with the X-Fi under Vista (Ultimate x64). Sounds skip all the time, or have short periods of garbled output, or long periods of fuzzy/low-fi output - especially when other processes are running. Oddly the screensaver seems to be the worst offender here. WTF? I only have a quad core and 8GB ram, I should hope that's sufficient to keep the X-Fi well fed :) This card was nothing short of brilliant using XP on a dual core with 2GB - hard to believe it could be so mediocre under Vista.
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Beavis.... sorry... but my experience on my system is totally opposite from yours......

I too have a Quad (q9550) with 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066....

My sound is totally clean with none of the properties you are getting. My sound is clean, extremely quiet with NO hiss, frequency down low to the very highest comes in loud and clear, and is very expansive. Heck, even my set of headphones sound crystal clear and expansive and even seems as if you were actually listening to a 5.1/7.1 speaker system. You can hear the different sounds at all different locations while gaming and watching movies.

Maybe getting the PCI-e Titanium version is the key.... maybe they got their act together with this card.... who knows....



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Edited: Jan 19, 2009, 04:15am EST

 
>> Re: A_Pickle's Next Desktop (Updated: 19 Jan 2009)
Aight all, this is a bump post cleverly disguised as an informative update. Bah ha haa.

Anyways. I updated the motherboard, CPU, CPU cooler and the RAM... and I added the fan controller. And, so that Beavis won't kill me, it looks like I'm going with 8 GB of RAM instead of a simple 4 GB.

G. G.
Maybe getting the PCI-e Titanium version is the key.... maybe they got their act together with this card.... who knows....

It's possible, PCIe makes sense. Moar bandwidth nomf nomf nomf. I'm just saying, after the slew of initial X-Fi problems, the Daniel_K incident, and the apparent inability to grant it's older customers a service (Audigy owners have to pay $10 for ALchemy) I don't feel entirely endearing towards Creative. Plus, I've heard an ASUS Xonar DX in action, and it's outstanding. :D

A dedicated SPDIF port would be nice, but... feh.

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>> Re: A_Pickle's Next Desktop (Updated: 19 Jan 2009)
I've never built a Core i7 system yet, but I would think that with a Core i7 and X58 motherboard you would want a triple channel ram kit not a dual channel ram kit. This could mean 6GB of ram instead of 4/8GB (3x 2GB).

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