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BoT Jul 28, 2009, 07:57pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 29, 2009, 12:58pm EDT

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need some decisions making help

i didn't plan on upgrading or acquiring any new hardware till late this year or early next year
i waiting for the i5/p55 curve

problem is that i need a 775 board .. like now
i was able (or thought so at least) to revive the ud3p board that went up in smoke some time ago, so i treated my server to a p5q-e.
server is running fine but the ud3p is not. i bought a ds3l out of desperation and it just doesn't cut it for me.

now i am thinking of getting a new board .. options i consider so far:
1. ASUS P5Q Deluxen - i know the p5q and trust it but do i really want to spend that much?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131297
2. GigaByte GA-EP45-UD3P - another one, should i try it again. it was fun while it lasted but that wasn't long - this would also be the cheapest option
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
3. Foxconn BlackOps - !?! blackops for $120.-? ...x48 chipset .. WC NB .. good PWM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681318614...k=blackops
i like, but ddr3 would mean i have to shell out extra money for memory, which i could still use for the p55 setup since both will be dual channel ddr3.

btw, i will oc and wc

so, opinions please


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Mothow Jul 28, 2009, 11:11pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jul 28, 2009, 11:12pm EDT

 
>> Re: decision making help
Gigabyte P45 board is a great board .I would go with that.This board loes 45nm Quads as well as dual cores

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Plug & Play Jul 29, 2009, 06:29am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help

Well I would get the Asus P5Q does not have to be the deluxe version. The PRO is just as good....but I would go with Asus over the Gigabyte....I had two Gigabyte boards and both went faulty and they were high end boards aswell. Just me giving me two cents.....

BTW,

Foxconn have a great 775 board out as do FOXCONN check them out have no links in work.

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Michael C Jul 29, 2009, 09:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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A friend of mine has a similar board to that Gigabyte and it is crap really. Get the Asus, the Pro preferably.

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sovietdoc Jul 29, 2009, 01:40pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
I've used both Asus and GBT boards for many years now. If you want to run the board 24/7, go with GBT. Just my experience with Asus shows that they burn out too quickly if running them 24/7 for a long time. Other people might object, but like I said, that's just how it was for me.

I ran a torrent tracker server for 3 years using Asus boards at first, A8N-SLI Premium (2 of them fried within a month), the nforce 4 SLI x16 board (that lasted about a year) and a GBT board (still running that after about 2 years)

So yeah, I'd recommend Gigabyte.

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BoT Jul 31, 2009, 08:51pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hmm, 3 for gigabyte, 1 for asus and none for the foxconn. interesting

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I'd reccommend FOXCONN to anyone. The board I have is excellent and was very cheap.

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G. G. Aug 01, 2009, 03:01pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
BoT,

I highly recommend getting the Gigabyte. Very reliable board and has alot of features for the price. If you dont need the second pci-e for dual gpu setup and can make due with a single video card setup.... I recommend getting the GA-EP45-UD3R and regain a pci slot back for i/o. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128359 and save a few bucks. I have had a gigabyte socket 478 running for 3.5yrs now (wife's system), mine (GA-EP45-UD3R) and my brother's (GA-EP45-DS3L) have been running since OCT... all running great and no issues. Plus, I recently just fired up a brand new Gigabyte socket 775 865chipset for the first time that had been sitting in the box for the past 2yrs and it fired up just fine with no issues.


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Liquid Shadow Aug 01, 2009, 03:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I've had my Gigabyte board for almost 5 years now, K8N Ultra-9, I ran it almost 24/7 and never experienced any reliability problems. So another vote for Gigabyte.


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BoT Aug 01, 2009, 09:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
so looks like gigabyte, majority vote. eh, dunno .. not crazy about the idea but it might just be the best option.
the DS3L was not impressive, it's a solid board but many of the BIOS features found in the UD3P are not available. i hope they are available in the UD3R.
*flipping a coin for UD3R and UD3P*

thanks for the input guys

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GtoX (capt Guns) Aug 01, 2009, 09:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
Gigabyte! got one myself, however i got the cold boot issue :P

but except for that, the other gigabyte boards ive had and this one have posed no problem..

Q9650 @ 3.0ghz w/ Scythe Kama Kross
Gigabyte EP35 DS3 - F3 bios
2 x 2 GB Samsung ram Pc6400 800mhz
MSI 8800GTS 512 OC @ 752mhz
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G. G. Aug 01, 2009, 09:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
BoT,

The GA-EP45-DS3L/UD3P/UD3R are solid boards. Just different features both bios and hardware wise. Out of those these 3, I would stay away from the DS3L. My brother has this board and with his particular board, the P45 chipset and memory runs very hot. Too close for comfort in my opinion. My motherboard (GA-EP45-UD3R), it is totally opposite. My EP-45 chipset and Memory runs totally cool. Barely lukewarm... To me, this would benefit logevity of the board. Now between the UD3R and UD3P.... The difference would be in dual PCI-E 16 slot for dual video card setup and Dual Giga LAN. I'm sure im leaving something out, but those two are the major feature difference.. Oh and the additional cost that goes to the UD3P. So it is your choice between the two on what best fits your needs and total cost of the motherboard you want to spend. For me.... I choose the UD3R because I dont need dual video card now or in the future... nor do I need dual lan... I could use the extra pci i/o slot and save a bucks in the process.


Oh by the way... the cold boot issue that Capt had on his Gigabyte board is mainly due to the P35 chipset. With the P45 chipset... this is not an issue.

Best of luck on your decision.

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Liquid Shadow Aug 01, 2009, 09:52pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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To add what I said earlier, I used Gigabyte boards for my parents' computer, and for numerous builds for my friends, and none of them had any issues.


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BoT Aug 03, 2009, 06:50pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
G.G. .. how different is the bios from the UD3R to the UD3P?
i really need all the options available in the UD3P, i don't need a second pci-e for SLI.
thats why i was soo disappointed and dissatisfied with the DS3L.

i think i order tomorrow, can't wait much longer

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G. G. Aug 03, 2009, 10:34pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Aug 03, 2009, 11:00pm EDT

 
>> Re: decision making help
BoT,

I cant exactly tell you what the difference in Bios between the UD3R and UD3P. If I had to guess it would mostly be the same with the exception to enable/disable dual gpu and dual lan. I have not had the opertunity to look at or compare these two mb. My suggestion would be to go to Gigabyte's website and download the manual for both boards and then do a compare of the bios screenshots OR..... find reviews of both boards that would have images of the bios where you can compare.

here is a compare of features at Newegg between the two

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&a...6813128359


[edit to add]

BoT,

UD3R rev 1.0 manual - http://america.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manua...ep45-ud3(r)_e.pdf


UD3P rev 1.0 manual - http://america.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manua...ud3p_e.pdf


I did a quick compare of the Bios section in each manual and they are practically the same with the exception for the integrated peripherals. You may want to look up some reviews.

But in the end... pick the board that best fit your needs and price. Oh by the way... the P45 chipset does not do SLI.... only Crossfire.


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BoT Aug 04, 2009, 12:12am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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thanks G.G., thats great help. looks good so far. i probably will go with the UD3R.

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Zero Aug 04, 2009, 02:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: decision making help
I just got my UD3P about 3 or 4 weeks ago.
It is a great board...and the O/C options are great.

A few friends and I have been using Gigabyte MBs for a very long time...6+ years now.
It is very rare to have a problem with these boards.

Gigabyte is always my first choice.

I was eyeing the UD3R, but couldn't find it in any store nearby...and I had a good deal
with UD3P.

Good luck with whatever it is you choose.

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BoT Sep 09, 2009, 12:24am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hate it, hate it, haaaaate it >:o

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G. G. Sep 09, 2009, 10:40am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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??????? :/ ????????

what's up ?????

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BoT Sep 09, 2009, 12:36pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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got the new board, against my gut feeling and with hwa recommendation .. no pun
well at least it didn't burn up in barely two weeks, it's running and it's running fairly well.
this board is not as good a clocker then the first one. 450 fsb is a shacky max here but what really drives me is that now i can't turn off my computer. not that i do that frequently anyway but still.
what is happening? i have it running at 400x8 to push the q6600 to 3.6 and it's solid .. runs for days but as soon as i turn it off ... even reboot, i get into a endless reboot cycle.

sometimes it take up to an hour before it finally goes back to default settings.
then when i get in, set it back to what it was and it runs again, no probs

i am done with this, i retire it i think. anybody interested in a ud3p?

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G. G. Sep 09, 2009, 02:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Sep 09, 2009, 02:19pm EDT

 
>> Re: decision making help
BoT,

In regards to the constant rebooting thing after you manually reboot or after a power on? my guess is that has to do something with your memory, let it be timings, voltages, speed, or maybe the memory itself.

I remember when I first was building my brother's system (GA-EP45-DS3L) it had the constant reboot thingie going on and when it does reach desktop...then it would at times get BSOD.

I ended up manually adjusting memory options. He had Kingston HyperX 1066 2gb x 2. Then all was good.

because you are OC'n....... Your memory settings settings maybe becoming too sensitive for the board to handle and that you might have to tweak it for a stable OC.

Also just for giggles.... you may want to check on the Gigabyte's website for you UD3P's memory compatability list.... who knows... hmmm...

So how did it go when everything was at stock settings when you first put the system together prior to starting your OC ?????

[to add]

Oh by the way... what do you mean that you can't turn off your computer???? So if you do a shutdown from the OS Start Button or hit the case's off button.....what happens?


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