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GtoX (capt Guns) Sep 17, 2009, 10:49am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey guys, been a while.. btw, im saving money for when the 58xx cards come out, about 30% left from my desired amount of cash saved... :) btw, what card do u think i should get for my main rig? its a 22" 1680x1050 2ms (i would love to use alot of AA/AF for it)

anyways, to my main issue i have..

i got 2 x 80gb Western digital HDD's (1 of them is like a year older, got a black coating instead of silver), i do believe they are the same though... shouldnt matter though as it only shrinks the size to the lesser HDD though?

so one of the HDD's i installed my XP pro on it since i cant run BF2 on windows 7.. now since i found my other harddrive, i was considering raid:ing them together.. is it possible to do that, even though one of them already has the games installed etc on them?

and how would i go about doing that on a EP35-DS3?


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McFly Sep 17, 2009, 12:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can i raid an existing Harddrive?
If there's already data on the drives, you'll have to back it up, create the array, and then copy the data back.


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G. G. Sep 18, 2009, 12:13am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can i raid an existing Harddrive?
Capt,

as mentioned by McFly, You cant just add the second hdd to the existing one without either a reload or re-imaged. When you go through creating an array raid 0 or 1, the header of the original hdd gets blown away to make way for a new header that will config the two hdd together.

The easiest way to create the array and save time from a complete re-install of the OS, apps, and data.... is to image your current hdd......attach the new hdd, create the new array raid 0 or 1 during bios.... then fire up the re-imaging program of your choice and then restore the image to the raid. Or you can just do a total reinstall from scratch.

IMO.... i would not bother doing a raid 0 with the 80gb hdd... with that size... I am assuming they are of older vintage hardware of yesterdays... 80gb, 7200rpm, and 8mb cache at the most.

The reason I say this is that a single 640gb or larger hdd with 32mb cache and even at the regular 7200rpm is going to be faster than two 80gb hdd of yesterdays technology in a raid 0. Here is a prime example. My last system that I had for 4yrs... had two 120gb WD 8mb cache 7200rpm hdd in a raid 0.... using HD TACH benchmark... they average read runs about 89~91mb/s.... My current system today contains two single WD 640gb black edition 32mb cache 7200rpm benchmarked as individual hdd at 95~98mb/s average by themselves.... And I believe that the TB hdd is a bit faster than mine too..

But then again... if you want to mess with it and give it a whirl.... no harm in doing that...


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Meats_Of_Evil Sep 18, 2009, 09:22am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can i raid an existing Harddrive?
Well if he has it laying around he should go for it. Use that old junk! :P

GtoX (capt Guns) (73170) said on Sep 17, 2009 at 10:49am EDT:
im saving money for when the 58xx cards come out,

I had to look at the date when I read that. i thought you meant of the Ge-force Fx5xxx line lmao!

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GtoX (capt Guns) Sep 18, 2009, 10:09am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can i raid an existing Harddrive?
hahah nah, for the Radeon series ;)

ah.. well what about raid 1? i mean, shouldnt it technically be faster considering its a double image of the information so it can read it at the same time?

just had these old hdd's and i figured it would be fun to just play around with, nothign really important installed on them, i just cant be buggered to go about reinstalling the games, OS etc..

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2 x 2 GB Samsung ram Pc6400 800mhz
MSI 8800GTS 512 OC @ 752mhz
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http://www.mypicx.com/uploadimg/1601972979_10092009_1.jpg
Shawn Langley Sep 18, 2009, 11:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can i raid an existing Harddrive?
Just for you.... Quickly loaded up the girlfriends PC

Athlon XP 2500+ Mobile (OC'd of course)
Abit NF7
2GB DDR400
Geforce 6600
2x 80GB SATA drives in RAID0 running through a PCI SATA RAID card Silicone Image chipset
1x 80GB PATA HDD WD800BB (backups)
Running Vista Ultimate

Raid Set Average Read 85.9MB/s
Single 80GB Average Read 49.2 MB/s

Take into consideration its running through a dated PCI card, the massive dip at the start of the test lowering the average, and the fact these are average times not max or burst I'd say without buying new gear its worth it if its just lying around for the price of a reinstall.

Also I've seen these do around 90MB/s but the PC was still booting when I ran this, also I am using HD Tach here, I seem to get better results with HD Tune under Windows XP on the same system.

But alas yes you would have to clear off both drives, create the RAID set, format and reinstall but its worth it IMO.

http://blackhawk.rrss.co.uk/HWA/HWA80GBTests/Raidset0.jpg
http://blackhawk.rrss.co.uk/HWA/HWA80GBTests/WD800BB.jpg

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mike cal Oct 01, 2009, 03:21pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Can i raid an existing Harddrive?
I had a harddrive failure that was configured with raid 1. one drive was saved -- but we could not save the operating system and had to rebuild and put the data back on. the drive is partitioned with a c and d. The hosting company put raid on c, but has informed me that they will need to back up the d partition, delete it, then put the data back. How was it that the c partition did not need this?


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