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Dec 01, 2009, 01:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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~Vel Dec 01, 2009, 01:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: We hardly knew each other, but it's time to say goodbye
Oh dear.. Haha. Just so long as you know your graphics and wireless drivers will work!

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>> Re: We hardly knew each other, but it's time to say goodbye
McFly, windows 7 is not a girl. There is no "break up" or posting on windows 7 myspace/facebook with "I dont love you anymore!"

Linux gives me free software, free drivers, all open-source and there for the taking.


You can have all that on windows. Torrents.

We started off our tender, yet passionate, relationship during the heat of the summer -- I, the programmer; you, the young daughter of Microsoft. As I explored your body and the depths of your soul/registry, I came to admire you.

The fact that you see it that way is..uhm...disturbing to say the least? :P

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McFly said:
~Vel (69519) said on Dec 01, 2009 at 10:10am PST:
Oh dear.. Haha. Just so long as you know your graphics and wireless drivers will work!

Yep, both do. Even on my Intel X1300, the Compiz animations actually runs a lot better than Aero's. Wireless drivers are proprietary (f**king Broadcom, I'm going to get an Atheros card anyway).

I realized that I was spending more time in my Debian VM than actually using Windows itself (and spend way more time using Cygwin than Command Prompt) ... decided it's time to swap and put Windows in the virtual role.

I'm not much of a gamer anymore, anyway. The only game I really like to play is UT2004, which runs great under Linux.



Ah, yeah. The switch between booting and VM is pretty much a no-brainer at that point.

On a side note, am I correct in the understanding that your first operating system was Linux?

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>> Re: We hardly knew each other, but it's time to say goodbye
Wow. I am the exact opposite. The release of Win7 was my much anticipated excuse to finally get Windows back on my laptop after two years of far too many Linuxes.

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I have tried 5 Linux distros (the three *buntus, openSUSE, and Knoppix briefly), and all of them sucked. I hated having to spend several hours getting anything to work. Something as simple as installing a program takes me days to finish because you have to freaking compile whatever you want to use and in order to do that, you have to download several hundred megabytes of libraries and compilers, many of which are not available to a certain type of Linux. Also, drivers don't exist for much of today's popular hardware, like my Lexmark printer, ATI graphics adapter, and my Conexant sound card. And with Linux programs, EVERYTHING is homemade by people who may or may not know what they are doing and, since they aren't getting paid, there is no incentive to create quality piece of work and there is no incentive to fix any problems with at work after you release it. Every single piece of software is absolutely crawling with bugs that require you to spend more time debugging than actually working. Event the OS itself is a hive of bugs. And since every piece of the OS is made by someone else, nothing works together. Every time one application updated a library file, every other application that used it would fail to run. Its like the "DLL-Hell" from earlier Windows but it is happening in 2009.

That being said, as an amateur programmer, I still find myself drawn to the overcomplexity. I enjoyed the thrill of getting something done, no matter how mundane (such as getting a piece of paper to print after many weeks of trying). Maybe when I get a new laptop, I can put a Linux on the old one and mess around with it.

Final note:
Every single piece of software in the world, save for games, has a free alternative for Windows users somewhere out there. They just aren't all in repositories like with Linux, you have to search for them.

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~Vel (69519) said on Dec 01, 2009 at 10:54am PST:
On a side note, am I correct in the understanding that your first operating system was Linux?

Well, between Linux and Windows. I guess my first OS was TI-BASIC


TI-BASIC was my first programming language! I brought me into this world of computers. I wanted to learn the language to make little games to pass around to kill time in class. I found out I really loved programming and deiced to take a cs class in high school. I feel that if I didn't have my TI-89 Titanium, I would be a Physics or maybe a Business major now, instead of a CompSci. And, god forbid, I may be using a mac!

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Jay Premiere Dec 01, 2009, 03:18pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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What the hell lol. very funny . i like that XD

<a class= Dec 01, 2009, 03:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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As for you, sovietdoc ... I do still love you.


Oh gawd. Now I have to delete my account and make a new one under a different name.

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A_Pickle Dec 01, 2009, 05:14pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: We hardly knew each other, but it's time to say goodbye
You know... I love Linux. Rather, I love the idea behind it. I love the idea of a free, open-source operating system. I love the idea of almost all software being free, so that ANYONE who wanted to get in on the possibilities opened by technology could do so at the cost of hardware and not a cent more.

My issue with it comes with it's implementation. Sadly, ANYONE cannot just jump into Linux and use it. I'm fairly computer-saavy, and I borked my Kubuntu install by trying to install CutePDF (so I could print webpages/documents to PDF files on my HDD).

Ideally, I'd be using Linux. It takes a lot to gain my trust, as a person, and so I'd rather NOT trust Microsoft or Google with my operating system. They SAY it doesn't have a backdoor, but I don't know that -- I can't see the code. I have TrueCrypt for that (hooray FOSS), but I'd still rather have a wholly open-source operating system.

It's just that Linux is so damn confusing. It doesn't seem to make any sense whatsoever, like, I don't know how or why I need to get into the terminal so much... I just want to install a PDF printer! Do you have any good places to go for Linux beginners?

Nathan Daniels Dec 01, 2009, 06:20pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah but the problem with open source stuff is it is open source! Anyone can see the code and find security holes. I am sure that if Linux were as widespread as Windows, it would be the most virus-prone, unsecured OS out there.

Open source is like Communism. Everyone working together for free to make something for everyone to use. And like Communism, it looks great on paper but in practice, it fails.

Oh and I use Firefox, not IE.

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Ecosse Dec 01, 2009, 06:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Once again McFly gets us smling - a noble art and no mistake fella! :D

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Dr. Peaceful Dec 01, 2009, 07:00pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You scared me there for a moment, I thought you're leaving the forum... We need you, man! ;)

Linux = programmer's heaven.

Dr. Peaceful Dec 01, 2009, 07:08pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: We hardly knew each other, but it's time to say goodbye
Your title reminds me of this song... LOL ;)

"Time to Say Goodbye"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbN0g8-zbdY

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TamTheBam Dec 01, 2009, 07:34pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I f**kin hate Win7.
My Steam account don't work.
The GPU Drivers ares**te.
Some games that played slick on Vista plays**te on Win7.

You lot are bedazzled by the GUI and the neatness. I prefer Vista.

....I'm back, but only as a part-timer... :)
Nathan Daniels Dec 01, 2009, 08:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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McFly, that link had a quote in it that made me rofl.

The few, the proud, the penguins.

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Meats_Of_Evil Dec 01, 2009, 09:14pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: We hardly knew each other, but it's time to say goodbye
Tam, you have the devil in yer Pc! My steam account works fine and I'm sure everyone elses. Try going to the steam forums and see if you need to re-install steam or just delete a few cache files.

Also, is that the reason you haven't been on steam for a while Tam? I have no one else to talk to at those weird hours you usually pm me :(

Also, I thought the same thing as Dr. Peaceful! I thought somebody was leaving. I'd hate to see anyone go, we'll any of you guys since we are all that's left :(

I was thinking of this other song too hahah:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs

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