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Dave Dec 18, 2009, 05:14pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Having had windows 7 on my laptop for a couple of months, it is now time for the desktop to move away from windows XP! However, i've run into a couple of teething troubles which I can't seem to find any solutions to.

System:

Motherboard: MSI Platinum PowerUp Edition 975x
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2.4GHz
RAM: 2x1GB Corsair DDR2 800Mhz
Graphics: ATi Radeon X1950XTX
Hard Disks: 2x 320GB 7,200rpm Hard Disks... no Raid that I know of because I know nothing about Raid
Optical Drive: Bog standard Song DVD RAM drive
PSU: Enermax Noisetaker 600W

PROBLEM!

When attempting to install Windows 7 Professional x64, at first it would lock up constantly at the "Setup is Starting" menu, after being really bloody slow loading the language screen as well. The screen would totally freeze, the loading thing would stop turning and I wouldn't be able to move the mouse. Trawling the internet a bit, it turned out I needed to disable the BIOS Floppy Disk Driver. The machine used to have a floppy drive in it, its now been taken out so that sort of made sense.

That done, the setup ran much faster, blasted through setup no problem at all. Formatted the correct disk and started the installation. Copying files worked fine, happy days.

HOWEVER, just as it got to the "Expanding Windows files (0%)" the *buggerating* thing locked up again. Same stuff, screen freezes unable to move the mouse. Once again going back to the internet, I don't seem to be able to find any solutions.

Every peripheral has been unplugged and half the ram has been removed so its on 2 sticks of 1gb. I'll probably try it again in a sec with just the one stick, but I know the RAM isn't faulty so.. blerjerhh.

Any ideas or suggestions people? Anything REALLY simple i've missed?


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Dave Dec 18, 2009, 05:28pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 18, 2009, 05:45pm EST

 
>> Re: Windows 7 install woes!
In another couple of tries it got to 5% on the same section, and just now 0% again.

What a pain in the arse.

Edit: Unplugged the 2nd hard drive and decided to have another crack at it, I also moved the mouse during the installation as encouragement. It got to 96% this time before locking up. 4th time lucky!

TamTheBam Dec 18, 2009, 05:44pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I had similar issues in the past on my old folks machine. So I created a boot from USB mem
stick, and it installed feckin sweet. Why don't you try this? Wanna link?

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/howtos/how_to_install_windows..._a_usb_key

I'll bet it works for you too! Just give it a try!

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Dave Dec 18, 2009, 05:47pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hmmmm... I have only a 2GB memory stick, apparently I need a 4GB :(

Thanks for the idea though!

john albrich Dec 18, 2009, 05:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 18, 2009, 05:50pm EST

 
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Since it seemed to have some problem with a non-existent floppy, I'd suggest it has an issue with drive management. Simplify things to absolute minimum by disconnecting the data cable from the 2nd non-essential hard drive before starting the install process.

If the problem continues, and you have both IDE and SATA drives available to try, then re-attempt installing with one you've not already tried to see if you get past the hitch (e.g. if you've been trying with SATA drive, try an install with an IDE drive or vice-versa)

Dave Dec 18, 2009, 05:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah I tried again with the secondary drive unplugged and it got to 96% before locking up, so i'll just try that again and hope for the best :/

I don't have any IDE hard drives in the house anymore either... blergh

Had a thought. The CPU has been overclocked before, but it's back at stock levels at the moment. Could that make any difference?

john albrich Dec 18, 2009, 05:56pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 18, 2009, 05:58pm EST

 
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Also, I didn't check to see if the MSI mobo has integrated video, but I'm guessing it does.

Remove the video adapter card and run the installation using the integrated video.

Remember to unplug the PSU or turn it off using the rear power switch and waiting a minute before removing any devices from the computer. Do NOT just rely on turning it off via the front panel as that doesn't actually remove all the power from the motherboard. Removing an adapter card while the motherboard is still active can damage the adapter and/or the mobo.


edit to add:
And of course follow proper electrostatic handling procedures throughout.

Dave Dec 18, 2009, 05:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 18, 2009, 06:11pm EST

 
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Seem to be cramping peoples ideas here but there is no integrated video on the motherboard. Yeah thanks for the advice, i've been powering it up and down properly. I decided it would be a good idea after I fried a PSU by hot swapping hard drives a few years back.

Dave Dec 18, 2009, 06:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Riiiight....

It seems to just lock up at any random point during the installation, i've just been trying over and over again and in the latest attempted it completed the third step.

So this suggests to me that....... I should keep trying until I win the lottery and it doesn't lock up?

TamTheBam Dec 18, 2009, 06:21pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You must know someone with a 4GB stick you can borrow?

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Dave Dec 18, 2009, 06:24pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah... but its 11:30pm here. If needs be I can go and pick one up tomorrow.

Although there has been a development. It passed the first stage, restarted. Got to about 1cm of the end of "Completing Installation".... and then it locked up.

It'll give it 20 minutes then restart. Seems like i'm getting closer with every reboot.

This problem is utterly inexplicable.

Suspended User Dec 18, 2009, 06:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Tam, you have a Sony drive as well. I wonder if you ahve the same model and if there is a firmware update for it. It may be Sony related

Dave Dec 18, 2009, 06:36pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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DVD drive is ok, thing is a clean install of Windows Vista Home Premium x64 has been completed on the same computer, same hard drive with all 4 RAM sticks and other hard disk in, no problems at all.

Like I say, inexplicable.

<a class= Dec 18, 2009, 06:43pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Meh. Your stuffs are alls messed up.

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Dave Dec 18, 2009, 06:45pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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My computer is resisting modernisation it seems. Just locked up again at 96%.

I'll install this fecking operating system if I'm here all night!

Rawawrrararr!

TamTheBam Dec 18, 2009, 06:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Kieran B said:
Tam, you have a Sony drive as well. I wonder if you ahve the same model and if there is a firmware update for it. It may be Sony related


I use the Pioner drive I have. Although, my old folks puter had the sony drive, and yes I
do think it has/had something to do with it. I'll never buy sony ANYTHING ever again!

....I'm back, but only as a part-timer... :)
TamTheBam Dec 18, 2009, 06:51pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 18, 2009, 06:52pm EST

 
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Dave I said:
DVD drive is ok, thing is a clean install of Windows Vista Home Premium x64 has been completed on the same computer, same hard drive with all 4 RAM sticks and other hard disk in, no problems at all.

Like I say, inexplicable.


Dave, I'm telling you for sure, you're experiencing what I was experiencing installing
Win7 on my folks computer. They got my old mobo, cpu, ram, etc and that f**kin
sony drive! I posted a link about this last month. And yup, I had Vista installed on it too
before I gave it to them! Spooky eh!

Have you not got an MP3 Player of some sort to use as HDD? Or even an external HDD
to install the OS?

....I'm back, but only as a part-timer... :)
Dave Dec 18, 2009, 07:11pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have not, but come tomorrow I should be able to acquire one. With luck, this will work at some point during the night... but if it doesn't, i'll use your USB idea.


TamTheBam Dec 18, 2009, 07:13pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dave I said:
I have not, but come tomorrow I should be able to acquire one. With luck, this will work at some point during the night... but if it doesn't, i'll use your USB idea.



Lol fingers crossed... but if it's like this now, it'll be like this all night. Let me know how
you get on tomo when you get a hold of one!

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Dave Dec 18, 2009, 07:30pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 18, 2009, 07:44pm EST

 
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All USB devices unplugged.. all expansion thingies (even though they weren't actual expansion cards, just port extenders), if I take anything more out it wont work.

On we go!

Edit: Failure.... disabled everything on the motherboard... onwards!

john albrich Dec 18, 2009, 08:26pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Windows 7 install woes!

1) Reinstall Vista or XP

2) Change/edit the splash screen to show Windows 7

3) Installation completed!


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