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dan abbott Jan 19, 2010, 05:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hi all, i just bought an unlocked i phone (i'm with t mobile) which was unlocked by o2. i think i read somewhere about not updating the phone or it will lock itself back to o2. is this right? can i connect to my computer without it trying to update itself? i don't think its been jailbroken (how would i know?).

is there anything else i need to know

cheers all
Dan


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Plug & Play Jan 19, 2010, 06:22am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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You can do nothing with the iPhone without connecting it to a PC, and TBH if you dont jailbrake the phone its useless. I mean no decent apps or ring tones nothing, I am not mad on my iPhone now really. I taught it was UBER when I got it but meh....maybe the 3Gs is better.

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dan abbott Jan 19, 2010, 06:45am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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so is it ok to connect to my pc or not?

mothow Jan 19, 2010, 09:46am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Yeah you should be able to

GG i dont think the Gs can be jailbroke yet

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Dublin_Gunner Jan 19, 2010, 11:30am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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3Gs can indeed be jailbroken.

I wouldn't say its useless without being jailbroken, but it is a very closed system.

You should be fine to update - do it through iTunes and not 02 and then it should be fine to update.

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john albrich Jan 19, 2010, 11:44am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Jan 19, 2010, 11:48am EST

 
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Are they hauled "back to jail" by an update that merely changes the SIM card, or do they actually modify something else inside the phone?

If an update essentially hacks the phone without the user's permission, wouldn't that possibly qualify as a computer crime in some jurisdictions? Now it's got me wondering what the TOS say.

If it is just a SIM change, then to be safe he could make a copy of his current SIM card before doing any updates. If they "arrest" the phone, putting the copy of the unaltered SIM might restore the "out of jail" state.

Dublin_Gunner Jan 19, 2010, 11:57am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: unlocked i phone - anything i should know?
john albrich said:

Are they hauled "back to jail" by an update that merely changes the SIM card, or do they actually modify something else inside the phone?

If an update essentially hacks the phone without the user's permission, wouldn't that possibly qualify as a computer crime in some jurisdictions? Now it's got me wondering what the TOS say.

If it is just a SIM change, then to be safe he could make a copy of his current SIM card before doing any updates. If they "arrest" the phone, putting the copy of the unaltered SIM might restore the "out of jail" state.



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This:
http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=159

Is a pretty good resource for all things iPhone/iPod Touch.

The sim lock is merely vendor specific for the carrier - once its removed it cannot be put back (at least not without doing it on purpose - just like a regular mobile / cell phone).

The firmware updates from Apple have nothing to do with this.

Once the phone is Jailbroken, once again, this cannot be reversed unless done so on purpose. However - a jailbreak IS specific to the firmware version on the phone. You install a new firmware, you must jailbreak it again (if there is a jailbreak available for that version).




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dan abbott Jan 19, 2010, 12:06pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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so my iphone is a 3g, on 3.1.2 firmware and is unlocked to any network. i want to do the jailbreak. do i just use the blackra1n programme? loads of vids on youtube how to do it but some mention yellowsnow/blacksnow etc but don't know how mine was unlocked. the guy who had it before said it was unlocked by o2.

Dublin_Gunner Jan 19, 2010, 12:10pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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dan abbott said:
so my iphone is a 3g, on 3.1.2 firmware and is unlocked to any network. i want to do the jailbreak. do i just use the blackra1n programme? loads of vids on youtube how to do it but some mention yellowsnow/blacksnow etc but don't know how mine was unlocked. the guy who had it before said it was unlocked by o2.



If you have your phone on a bill pay package, generally all you have to do is call them and ask for the unlock code. Sometimes they'll insist you have to clock up a certain amount of time/cost - but in my experience with O2 they just give you the codes.

Go onto the forum I linked to above, anything you need is there.

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john albrich Jan 19, 2010, 12:20pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Dublin_Gunner said:
...a jailbreak IS specific to the firmware version on the phone. You install a new firmware, you must jailbreak it again (if there is a jailbreak available for that version).


Good to know. Makes those 3rd-party unlocked phones for sale a lot less attractive. DIY...the only way to go.

Can an iPhone firmware update be performed "behind the scenes" without the user's explicit approval? Or, alternatively can a user set an option to disallow automatic firmware updates (and of course suffer possible functionality consequences)?

Dublin_Gunner Jan 19, 2010, 04:14pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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john albrich said:
Dublin_Gunner said:
...a jailbreak IS specific to the firmware version on the phone. You install a new firmware, you must jailbreak it again (if there is a jailbreak available for that version).


Good to know. Makes those 3rd-party unlocked phones for sale a lot less attractive. DIY...the only way to go.

Can an iPhone firmware update be performed "behind the scenes" without the user's explicit approval? Or, alternatively can a user set an option to disallow automatic firmware updates (and of course suffer possible functionality consequences)?



No, it will always pop up that new firmware is available in iTunes, and if you want to d/l it.

Also, most new versions require you pay for the update (well.... ;) ), so, well, they can't charge you for something you haven't agreed to!

I know my iPod usually tells me if there are updatres when plugged to the computer, but I can;t recall if I had to set it to not do it automatically. I don;t think so though.

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mothow Mar 20, 2010, 09:27am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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john albrich (70933) said on Jan 19, 2010 at 12:44 AST:
If an update essentially hacks the phone without the user's permission, wouldn't that possibly qualify as a computer crime in some jurisdictions?


This won't happen john. The iPhone is first of all Steve Job's phone, you guys don't own an iPhone, you just rented it from Steve Jobs and if he decides to change code or whatever to render your jailbreak apps and unlocks useless then its all your fault for not using Steve Jobs property as he intended. Simple as that.

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