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GtoX (capt Guns) Apr 15, 2010, 09:48am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey guys, i got a question regarding cooling..

now, i dont have any warranty left on the motherboard on my htpc, so i figured i wanted to cool down the northbridge by superglueing another northbridge heatsink one to it.

now, when u read this ure thinking "hey u cant superglue it just like that", and i wasnt thinking of it.. instead, i was thinking that for example, i had a square surface, i superglue 2 dots on it, add a cover of thermalpaste from Arctic cooling, then put the 2 northbridges together..

technically, wouldnt that work? cause theres only 1 or 2 small dots used as superglue, and the rest of the contact surface has thermal paste on it..

is it worth giving it a go???


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Liquid Shadow Apr 15, 2010, 09:50am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
Why not just use thermal adhesive?



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Meats_Of_Evil Apr 15, 2010, 10:04am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
As Liquid said. But what I'm wondering is if the northbridge blocky heatsink (that's the one you're referring to right?) gets sufficiently hot so that the heat dissipates all the way to the top.
Cause if you put put the other one on to and the heat is not enough to reach the top of the heatsink then I believe that adding another won't have any effect.

Note, that's how I imagined it, I don't know if that's how heat dissipation works but it's a cool think you can think of before you try it. Of course, just for kicks I would do it but I don't have any spare blocky heatsinks laying around.

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GtoX (capt Guns) Apr 15, 2010, 10:53am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
well it does get hot, but i mean if u think about it logically, the superglue wont be in the way, since most of the area surface is taken up by thermal paste..

and not thermal adhesive please, u have to understand that i love Super glue and that i would love incorporating it into the PC world in which i live xD

so just think about it.. would it work to dissapate the heat if the northbridge is really really hot? i think it would..

1-2 dots of superglue, rest of area covered in thermal paste, then applying the 2nd heatsink. just so people understand what im tryin to say :P

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~Vel Apr 15, 2010, 11:17am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
I'm gonna go ahead and say no on this one.

Bungle Apr 15, 2010, 11:46am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
supergluing a heatsink to something is probably better than no heatsink but there are definately better ways to do this.

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Shawn Langley Apr 15, 2010, 11:46am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
I'm with Vel.... also super glue is pretty brittle.... any expansion due to heat will break the bond.

You could always use thermal adhesive and lie that it was super glued? =)

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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
Superglue will not be able to handle high temps, plus super glue cna be abrasive and wear into the chip and eat away at it causing dimples, then thermal paste will work less efficiently

Sean Costello Apr 15, 2010, 07:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
i did a mix of thermal paste/superglue on this behemoth heatsink i put on my old GF2 gfx card, never tried it though but It probably wont work.

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Jon Bailey Apr 16, 2010, 05:30am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
I agree, it sounds like a dubious method to provide extra cooling

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GtoX (capt Guns) Apr 16, 2010, 08:59am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
but guys, im not talking about directly superglueing a northbridge heatsink to the chip.. im talking putting a heatsink on top of the flat surface on another NB heatsink thats on the chip.. so the only contact is between the 2 metal parts.. basically making it a much bigger heatsink.. and if it would lose adhesivness it wouldnt matter since no damage would be made to the board..

but think about it, technically it should work?? top part of the NB heatsink will have a dot of superglue on one side, and the rest will be covered in thermalpaste which the standalone heatsink will be placed upon...

remember, no glue will be touching the Mobo or chips itself!!

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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
If you want to do it so bad then go ahead and try it, just be ready to pay the price. But I beg the question, why not just get some proper Arctic Silver 5?

G. G. Apr 16, 2010, 10:40am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
Capt,

are you talking about getting heatsink and "stacking" ontop of the original heatsink that is currently attached to the NB?


If this is the case.... its not going to work....

the first sink will have fins at the top....... the second sink botton is solid and flat... when you put the two together... you get dot contacts to each other... Basically the top of the fins touching the base of the second sink getting dot contact points........

can you post pictures of the two heatsinks to show us what you are talking about????



The better route to better cooling is to get a larger and more effective NB cooler.... and one with a small fan on it.


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mothow Apr 16, 2010, 04:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
Liquid Shadow said:
Why not just use thermal adhesive?

thats what i would use

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Jon Bailey Apr 16, 2010, 05:15pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
even with thermal adhesive, I dont think that the heat would effectively travel through one heatsink into another, if anything you would hinder the effectiveness of the first.

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GtoX (capt Guns) Apr 17, 2010, 01:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
well guys, i will be using the Arctic silver 5 as thermal paste.. and about the fins.. the main heatsink on the mobo has a long flat surface in the middle that to the eye should suffice enough to have somewhat good contact surface for the Flat surface of the "external" heatsink..
So yes, there is more surface area than just tryin to get the fins to connect :P

does anyone get the idea i have? the original heatsink has a flat surface, i take the new heatsink, and put the bottom on the top of the newer heatsink.. its a few centimeters of area to cover.. if a processor which is somewhat bigger can transfer heat to the cpu cooler, then why cant my idea?

im not worried about anythign breaking, im just looking for input from u guys :)


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GtoX (capt Guns) Apr 17, 2010, 01:17pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
ok.. this is the best way i can describe it.. will post a picture below.. now try to imagine it in ure heads as i describe the whole process :P

[IMG]http://i40.tinypic.com/mkhlkk.jpg[/IMG]

http://sv.tinypic.com/r/mkhlkk/5


now.. nr1 is very similar to my NB heatsink on my motherboard.. my idea is to place a tiny dot of super glue on the end of that middle segment of Heatsink 1... then i spread thermal paste on the rest of that surface area..

and in the end, i take heatsink nr2, and place the flat bottom on that middle..

now, do u think itll work dissapting heat? i do believe so..

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Meats_Of_Evil Apr 17, 2010, 02:34pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
I wouldn't be worried about damaging anything. I completely got the way you describe it from the beginning. Now I'm dubious it would work but you should try it anyway. Although, if it gets too hot (it probably won't) I believe the super Glue could melt and loose it's hold on the top Hetasink. Worse thing that could happen is the hs falls off but so what? It's not like it ways 3 pounds.


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Reason   Apr 17, 2010, 05:01pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
As someone who once rigged my PC to run off two PSUs simultaneously, I am all for goofy, cockeyed schemes and modifications.

now, do u think itll work dissapting heat? i do believe so..

I think it will dissipate heat, yes... will it dissipate very much heat? probably not. is it worth doing as a fun engineering experiment? absolutely. are you going to see a significant decrease in temps? i seriously doubt it.

having said that, if you can work in some duct tape, that would be awesome. Post pics when you're done in any case.

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Jon Bailey Apr 17, 2010, 06:06pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Apr 19, 2010, 07:33pm EDT

 
>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
Heatsinks are designed to transfer heat from direct contact with the hot surface, I dont think it will transfer through one heatsink to another regardless of flat surfaces, all I think you will accomplish is a reduction in the air flow around the original heat sink.

but Im interested to see your results.

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Dave Apr 18, 2010, 08:58am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Using Superglue for cooling? *check it out*
Yeah.. theoretically I think it should work, but the less surface area in contact with the bottom of the heatsink there is the less effective its oviously going to be.

If the top of the normal heatsink is hot, it will transfer through to the new one. But like everyone says give it a shot! Nothing like a good experiment to prove you're right.


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