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Adam Kolak Jul 01, 2010, 11:29pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have been thinking of purchasing a Panasonic plasma over an LCD (which would probably be a Samsung if I were to go that route). This would mostly be for console gaming, some movie watching, and occasional watching of over the air HD broadcasts using a fancy new device called bunny ears. A plasma for gaming? Are you crazy? Probably. Anyone on here got one?


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>> Re: Any Panasonic plasma owners on here?
I've had a p42g10 for about 8 months now. It's a wonderful TV. I play games on it all the time. The successor to my TV is supposed to have netflix built in and wifi.

Whatever you do, don't get a 120hz or 240hz LCD without looking at them first. They are so smooth it's weird to watch.

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>> Re: Any Panasonic plasma owners on here?
My friend has a 42" panny plasma. I have a 46" samsung. Both are good sets, not the cheap ones.

My buddy games quite a bit with his plasma panny. When he first got it, he was worried about the screen burning. He has not had a single problem and now he wonders why he was ever worried.

My samsung (a650) does have noticeably better colors. I am not saying that the plasma isn't great with great colors, but my lcd does do better in that area. I know sd via satellite looks better then expected on my set.

One thing we both agree on though is that our next upgrade will be an led lcd, rather then a lcd or a plasma.

here is a great forum. If you find a tv that you are thinking of buying, check it out here first.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/

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micro (52353) said on Jul 01, 2010 at 09:16pm PDT:
One thing we both agree on though is that our next upgrade will be an led lcd, rather then a lcd or a plasma.

I dislike the designation "LED LCD," but the industry advertising term, "LED TV," is even worse, as it's a pure misnomer. More correct (and more descriptive) is "LED-backlit LCD," as opposed to a 'regular' LCD, which would normally be a "CCFL-backlit LCD."

LED-backlighting certainly makes a difference, though. Esspecially with RGB LED's (as opposed to white) and full-grid backlighting (as opposed to edge-backlighting). Colors are better, blacks are better, uses less power and runs marginally cooler. Quadruple-win.

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I have always called them LED-backlit LCDs as well. My parents have a CCFL-backlit LCD that was highend a few years ago and that thing is very impressive in all but it's black levels. Looking in various stores I have noticed that black levels are still an issue with LCD TVs these days. During black scenes its instantly recognizable which TVs are plasma and which are LCDs. The LCDs have a dark blue/greyish tint during black scenes while the plasmas show various shades of black and grey. This may be the number one reason I want to go with a plasma.

From what I have read the burn-in and image retention problems are most prevalent during the first 100 to 200 hours of usage.

I was originally going to get an LCD, but watching plasmas and LCDs side by side in a store, I don't know why I would pay more to get an LCD.

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My parents own a 50" Panasonic Plasma(not sure which model exactly) and I can vouch for it. The quality is pretty amazing, it's still one of the best looking televisions I've seen to date. It's not quite as good as 'LED-LCD' TV's but it is fairly close. That said, they did pay too much for it in my opinion. I would recommend it though.

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>> Re: Any Panasonic plasma owners on here?
Be sure that you are comparing apples to apples. You can't go to walmart or even Best Buy to truly compare tv's. There is a big big difference between a high end tv and an expensive one sold at big box stores.Pay the extra $200 and get twice the quality.

My samsung a650 has a lot bettter black then my pc monitor (samsung) or my friends panny plasma. with quality, you will get what you want and you will want what you got. No matter the brand or what screen it has.

I know some people who just bought a 50+" sanyo. they paid clost to 1k for it. It is the biggest piece of junk i have ever seen. You can't calibrate the colors and the tv has never heard of the term "black". They could have had a smaller b650 series samsung for almost the same price and had a great picture. (i am not saying that you are going to buy a sanyo or that the 650 series is the best)

Just do plenty of research on the screen that you find from the avs forum and you will be happy with your purchase. The larger the screen the better quality you need.

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Adam Kolak (38980) said on Jul 02, 2010 at 05:17am PDT:
My parents have a CCFL-backlit LCD that was highend a few years ago and that thing is very impressive in all but it's black levels.

We bought our midrange (720p/1080i) 42" LCD about 3 years ago, and the picture quality is pretty good (more than great for the price we paid), but yeah, the black levels are pretty high. Not enough to distract me, though. We just wanted big+cheap. :)

I tend to stay away from plasmas. I know it's a small sample set, but I've seen quite a few plasmas die prematurely. On most of them, it was the power supply, so I was able to fix them for around $50-$100.

The black levels are generally better on plasmas, but our next TV will certainly be an LED-backlit LCD.

On topic ... are there any LED-backlit Plasmas?

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On topic ... are there any LED-backlit Plasmas?


No such thing. The process of turning noble gases into plasma in a plasma tv produces light.

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Chris M (25127) said on Jul 02, 2010 at 12:22pm PDT:
No such thing. The process of turning noble gases into plasma in a plasma tv produces light.

Ah ha. Thanks for schooling me on that. :_) Shows how much I pay attention.

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I have a Panasonic 50"! :_)

Well what can I say? Of course the color and picture quality is amazing, I had to tweak it a lot till it was perfect for my eyes. One thing you should keep in mind if you;re going to be watching HD channels is that not all of them will look great, some of them look nice, some have bizarre colors, some are upscaled tos**t and are ugly as hell and some channels crop the content on the size. I have dish HD and one of my favorite channels that I can certainly spot the mistakes in picture quality is Food Network. Some of the shows have an intense red hue which can get annoying depending on how you configured your TV.

At 50" everything is immersing and I guarantee you'll enjoy the experience and best of all is the audio. Plasmas for some reason sure pack a punch with their speakers, I haven't heard a TV with better audio quality and volume. It can be very very loud, trust me.

Now for the thing that might give you doubts. From what I understand, "most people" favor LCD's because they don't know any better :P But some will worry about the ol' "burn-in"
And yes even the Panasonic 50" suffers from it, I think all Plasmas do actually. But it's not as bad as you may think, in fact the only way you'll get the so called burn-in is if you let an exact image paused on frame for minutes, I think it starts to get the effect after 5 or 6 mins but don't quote me on that. I first noticed it when I played Inglorious Basterds on Blu-ray, I left it on pause on a trivia menu while I went to Burger King which took about 10 to 12 mins and when I went back the movie was stopped by the player probably to preserve power, oddly the TV was on ( I still hadn't configured the Viera Link settings). Now, since I have an eye for quality thanks to PC gaming which trains you to spot these sort of things :P I noticed a very faint glassy image of the trivia menu. You can only see this if your TV is on one full color, like black, white, etc. Although I didn't notice it once the movie started, I also noticed theTV kind of refreshed itself when you change inputs which maybe some kind of anti burn-in feature or maybe its the Dish 722k receiver. You also have a tool in the menu of the TV for burn-in which you see some bars go back and forth on the TV, I used it once to see what I was like but it isn't really needed.

Customization to me was pretty good, you can tweak a lot of settings to your liking or use one of the profiles which to me were very distinct and each did its own theme some justice.

You also get no ghosting, I've been seeing The World Cup Soccer every day it's on and thanks to the size of the TV and the quality you really get immersed into the game.

The other thing is that if you get another Panasonic equipment it will work with Viera which is sort of like a smart manager, its nice but it's not perfect.

Hmm, what else...

Do not buy into the whole internet has Youtube access or internet access crap, sadly our TV has that feature but it's awful, it's slower than anything you can imagine, it's like everything is being run by a 50mhz cpu or something. Even an iPhone is faster!

If you like the feature first try it out yourself, don't believe the employees about anything. Oh, and especially, don't buy a HDMI cable for them, I swear I remembered one cable priced for $80 and more, the damn a**holes are ripping people off! >:o

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Meats_Of_Evil (57359) said on Jul 02, 2010 at 04:31pm PDT:
Plasmas for some reason sure pack a punch with their speakers

Internal speakers? :~ Their only use to me is to serve as a center speaker in a surround sound setup.

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Well I don't know if they can be classified as speakers. What should those thingamajigs that produce sound be called?

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Who knows? :P

I figure anybody who is willing to spend money on quality video shouldn't suffer with in-TV speakers. *shudder*

Digital audio output -> reciever/amp -> bookshelf speakers

Adam Kolak Jul 14, 2010, 11:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Just figured I would do a little update on this. I have figured out what TV stand I want to get and I ordered 3 HDMI cables on monoprice for under $6. I am currently torn between the Sony 40EX400 and the Panasonic P42S2. Of course, one is an LCD and one is a plasma. In terms of performance, the Panasonic destroys the Sony LCD and pretty much everything else on the market. It is kinda sad that there are so few plasmas still being made today outside of Panasonic. Among LCDs the Sony is very good for the price and the input lag is better then the Samsungs. My only thought is with the Panny I will have to make sure I don't stay on the desktop too long while hooking up my laptop to the screen (maybe I'll just set the screensaver to 1 minute). The price is just about the same, the Panny being slightly more expensive but of course it is 2" bigger and looks much better. Watching in Best Buy, when a dark screen comes on you instantly know which TVs are Plasmas and which aren't. I guess really want the Panasonic, but I am worried about not being able to use my laptop on it occasionally. More worrying is my roommates hooking a laptop up to it...scary stuff.

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Stop saying Panny damnit ... XD

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McFly said:
Stop saying Panny damnit ... XD

Panny is a well accepted nickname for Panasonic.

However, Sammy isn't. :_)

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i think it is also a nickname in a hospital setting for a bed pan x)

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You shouldn't have to worry about damaging your plasma, since supposedly now a days burn-in isn't permanent. Maybe you'll the ghostly like image of the desktop if you leave it on a lot but there's a tool the TV has that erases any residue.



You know you wan't the awesome contrasts and vibrant colors!

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So just an update here, I ended up buying a 42" 1080p Panasonic plasma. I have had it for a few weeks now, and so far so good. No signs of burn-in so far, and I have been using my laptop on it and playing lots of games with HUDs. There was some noticeable phosphor lag when the display was brand new on fast moving objects, but that seems to have mostly disappeared now that the TV probably has around 100 or so hours of use on it. Picture quality is top notch, and for the price there is no way you can beat it. We have a PS3, Xbox 360, and an antenna hooked up to it for HD over the air.

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Hey Adam, how's it holding up? There's a 50" plasma at a local store for $500, very tempting. It's a "too low to print" type thing so I don't know the brand or model.

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