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Pwnzilla May 27, 2003, 10:31am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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alright i just put a Gig of ram in my good computer and i want to set up a ram drive of like 400-500 MB so i can run games and benchmarking software in it ,so i go online and sites say use ramdrive.sys and edit your config.sys file with it well ok thats easy enough....well XPpro doesn't have a ramdrive.sys or at least i can't find it anywhere....so my question is how do i set up a ram drive in XP...


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eyes only Aug 31, 2003, 03:15am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
You can use the dos based ramdrive.sys in Win XP by following these steps.

1.start the add hardware wizzard
2.Click on 'Next' on the 'Welcome' screen of the Hardware Wizard.
3.The Hardware Wizard will scan your machine for new hardware.
4.When it finds no new hardware, say YES, you have the hardware in.
5.Go to the bottom and choose the 'Add a new hardware device' option.
6.Use the 'Install the hardware that I manually select from a List (Advanced)' choice.
7.On the next screen, use the first choice 'Show all devices'. [WAIT!!]
8.From the next screen, choose 'Microsoft' in the list and select the 'RAMdisk Driver'. There is also the 'Have Disk' button - if you click that button, you can manually select ramdisk.inf from C:\WINDOWS\INF
9.Click 'Next' and the Hardware Wizard will install the RAMdisk driver

That installs the hardware so that it now exists on the system. The next thing is to configure it so as to be useful. A quick way may be to add this to your registry and see what happens on your machine. I do not know if this will work for you but I have this in my registry.

Put this into a text file called <whateveryouwant>.reg and click it -> yes

-----start----
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Ramdisk]
"Type"=dword:00000001
"Start"=dword:00000000
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,44,00,\
52,00,49,00,56,00,45,00,52,00,53,00,5c,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,64,00,69,00,73,\
00,6b,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00
"DisplayName"="Ramdisk Driver"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Ramdisk\Parameters]
"BreakOnEntry"=dword:00000000
"DebugLevel"=dword:00000000
"DebugComp"=dword:ffffffff
"DiskSize"=dword:002e8000
"DriveLetter"="Z:"
"RootDirEntries"=dword:00000200
"SectorsPerCluster"=dword:00000002

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Ramdisk\Security]
"Security"=hex:01,00,14,80,90,00,00,00,9c,00,00,00,14,00,00,00,30,00,00,00,02,\
00,1c,00,01,00,00,00,02,80,14,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,\
00,00,02,00,60,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,14,00,fd,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,\
05,12,00,00,00,00,00,18,00,ff,01,0f,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,\
20,02,00,00,00,00,14,00,8d,01,02,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,0b,00,00,00,00,\
00,18,00,fd,01,02,00,01,02,00,00,00,00,00,05,20,00,00,00,23,02,00,00,01,01,\
00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00,01,01,00,00,00,00,00,05,12,00,00,00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Ramdisk\Enum]
"Count"=dword:00000001
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001
"0"="Root\\UNKNOWN\\0000"
--------end-------

This ramdrive.sys only supports up to 32 MB but Microsoft also have a sample driver you can download and modify to suit your specific needs. It was mad for 2000 but should be suitable for XP. This will hopefully get you to the 256MB you desire but I do not know since I have not used it.
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q257/4/05.ASP


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Andy Parker Aug 31, 2003, 06:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
The only problem with this is that most games will look for a CD drive rather than a RAM drive, so you may find most won't work anyway. The best way around this is to use a virtual CD-ROM drive and place an ISO image file of the program on it. Also, you'll have to find a way to defeat the security systems present on most games.


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Biggus Dickus Jan 08, 2004, 03:20pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
One other thing you can do is to put your swap file (Page File) on the RAM drive. This is probably better than putting anything you want to keep on it in case you ever want to restart your machine, anyway.

UQ

Frank Gibbons Dec 11, 2005, 02:15am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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"One other thing you can do is to put your swap file (Page File) on the RAM drive."

Please, for the love of God, tell me that you are joking. Put your page file on the ram drive? That is such a retarded idea I signed up for this forum just so I could let you know how stupid of an idea that is.

What is a page file/virtual memory? It is space on your hard disk set aside to use just like system memory in case you don't have enough RAM. Say you have 256 MB RAM, and you decide to run 23 games at the same time. This would most likely utilize all of your RAM, and windows would start using the page file. This might also be when you get one of those neato "windows is out of virtual memory" messages.

Do you see how retarded your idea is? Then again... your name is Biggus Dickus... so maybe you were just jokeing.

Jonathan Worrel Feb 20, 2006, 03:47am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
Yeah, notice how he has one post. And I just signed up for this forum to ask the question:

It's 2006 now. This thread was created back in 2003. What's the newest way to boot Windows from your RAM, but then load all of your stuff from your hard drives? Sorry if it's such a noob question, I'm new to all of this and have 3GB of ram so I was curious.

Michael Paladin Feb 20, 2006, 06:39am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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There are a number of RAMDisk progs available, but they all have their individual pros and cons. Find them with Google. In the meantime, try Daemon Tools. This is a virtual CD maker, and you can run as many as you have RAM for.

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Jonathan Worrel Feb 20, 2006, 01:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
but my question is, when I set up a RAM drive, how can I get Windows to boot off of it?

james john Apr 02, 2006, 12:18am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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'"One other thing you can do is to put your swap file (Page File) on the RAM drive."

Please, for the love of God, tell me that you are joking. Put your page file on the ram drive? That is such a retarded idea I signed up for this forum just so I could let you know how stupid of an idea that is.

What is a page file/virtual memory? It is space on your hard disk set aside to use just like system memory in case you don't have enough RAM. Say you have 256 MB RAM, and you decide to run 23 games at the same time. This would most likely utilize all of your RAM, and windows would start using the page file. This might also be when you get one of those neato "windows is out of virtual memory" messages.

Do you see how retarded your idea is? Then again... your name is Biggus Dickus... so maybe you were just jokeing.'
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DUDDDDEEE...do you even know about virtual memory...
"It is space on your hard disk set aside to use just like system memory in case you don't have enough RAM."
lol not "in case"...there's always the swapping. go do some research.
but yes, I have implemented that technique. I only use some of the total ram for average swap usage. then I allocated 3.5gig on a separate partition on A fast -storage- hard drive for backup swap.

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Apr 02, 2006, 01:59pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
ramdrives are really meant for Photoshop etc.

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AZEEM Apr 02, 2006, 03:48pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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What is Ram Drive??
Is it Pagefile Memory??

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Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Apr 03, 2006, 12:22am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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in a sense, more like a scratch pad, basically some people take an Old 7200 Drive say 20 gigs and make it into a ram drive,

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Chris McNally Apr 03, 2006, 12:54am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
Eh? You don't make a ram drive with a hard drive. A ram drive is a drive made of ram, without using a hard drive. Therefore it's a lot faster, but of course the capacity is severely limited compared to today's hard drives.

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Jonathan Worrel Apr 03, 2006, 01:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
Yet still, no one has answered my question. How can I get Windows XP to boot off my RAM (3GB), but all my files and settings to load off my hard drive?

Shadow_Ops_Airman1 Apr 03, 2006, 02:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
well Chris i was reading recently that they do now have harddrives that you add Ram Modules to and plugs straight into a PCI Slot, but before you created a Ram Drive using an additional HD.

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Reason   Apr 03, 2006, 02:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
I don't think you can get Windows to boot from your RAM. You'd need flash memory to do that, which doesn't lose the data when the power is switched off.

As mentioned, there has been some research into flash drives as HDD replacements, and there is also an 8 GB RAM drive available, complete with its own power supply.

Check out Bart PE builder; IIRC it has instructions that can allow you to make [as small as] 256 MB thumb drives boot XP, or something like that.

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>> Re: XP RAM drive???
well Chris i was reading recently that they do now have harddrives that you add Ram Modules to and plugs straight into a PCI Slot, but before you created a Ram Drive using an additional HD.

That sounds more like a page/swap file. I know what you're talking about with the drives with RAM modules that plug into PCI, but I think that "RAM Drive" in the context of this thread is referring to a virtual drive created from system memory. It's like assigning a drive letter to a portion of your system memory.

Bill Mismo Apr 14, 2006, 03:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Using a RAM drive from system memory for your swap file is indeed retarded.

But using a RAM drive that plugs into mobo for your swap file is awesome.
A company called GigaByte makes one called i-RAM
A board of medium size with four DIMM sockets, a buffer battery and a serial ATA interface. Power is supplied by a PCI plug, so you need to have at least one free slot, while the card requires the space of two expansion cards due to the size of the memory module on the side.

MAybe, just maybe this is what Biggus Dickus was refering to.

THe i-RAM drive is perfect for use as a swap file drive because it is about 10 times faster than any magnetic hard drive on the market and because it is limited right now to just 4gigs.
It also can be used to boot windows from RAM and had been used for this with great results.

Hope that answers your question.

tingc222 Apr 15, 2006, 04:44pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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yes teh goold old gigabyte i-Ram

lookie here for the pure speed of it:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-51784544344753709&...mp;pl=true

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Man, that's PDQ. I don't think I can even shut down that fast lol.

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That is an impressive reboot.


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