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Plug & Play Oct 27, 2010, 07:47am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Windows 7 for laptop here I come!

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Meh. I don't feel like spending hours trying to kill the WAP or w/e its called. :P

On the other hand, Win7 runs beautifully on my 1.6ghz single core AMD. I am amazed.

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If you have trouble installing the final version of Win7 SP1, this may be why. Apparently there's been some back and forth on this so it's unclear exactly what the impact may be. See the Jan 12, 2011 update for more info. It's near the middle of the webpage. The rest of the article is interesting as well. Seems like some things are in flux.

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=698
"Update @ January 12, 2011 : We were checking our updates recently and found that KB976902 is back! We have no idea why Microsoft pulled it off the web almost immediately after they released it, or why the Knowledge Base page on the update was not available, but we do know now what the update does."

TamTheBam Jan 16, 2011, 06:22pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Lol so the KB976902 is to prevent hacks, and future hacks and prevent pirate users
from updating to Win7SP1. Lol. Like this will already be cracked before the SP1's officially
out!

....I'm back, but only as a part-timer... :)
R Silverlok Jan 17, 2011, 04:52pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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wow, if their past practices ( http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/31874/?o=800) are anything to judge by does this mean that W8 will be RTM only be two years to the month after we finally have w7sp1 and it's teddybear hugginess "anti-piracy" 'benefits'? or will they wait for w7sp2 to start the force migration "desire" through questionable anti-piracy 'measures'? The pulling of that file is highly suspicious, I sure would like to compare the before and afters to see how (or if to give the benefit of the doubt) it changed.

I mean Vista showed us that MS considers our machines theirs , and that as with drm we as consumers shouldn't be left to make our own hardware/software choices or even believe that we own stuff and all that worked out SOOO very well for them , somehow I doubt that commercial success for W7 has moved them too far from the thinking behind overly proprietary "we know best" business models (I mean look how far Apple got all the way to Iphone 4, before the customer 'stupidity ' started to make the product suck). Especially considering the thinking goes all the way back to WXP sp2 in 2004.

I think the only reason they waffled on the 'open' kinetics thing was that it's open use was to cut and dry to be explained away by magical OS programing fairies, and they feared the angry angry torches and spears mob that would have seen Darth Vaders helmet taken from Apple and placed back on MS

It's the most likely reason the pulled that file....something was there , even if only perception ....that made them worry about public exposur, with the whole ball game shifting a couple of mistakes ( like missing the mobile explosions were/are for MS ) and they could be looking at some narrower market share , it's not like they have had to fake numbers before to shift public opinion....


http://techrights.org/2010/11/16/towards-evidence-of-fraud/

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials

http://techrights.org/2011/01/14/fake-phone-shortages/

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/stacking_vista_li..._high.html

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/corporate/microsoft_q2_...mbers.html

http://news.cnet.com/Running-the-numbers-on-Vista/2100-1016_3-6207375.html

....or straight out run an obvious line of near true sh@t to hide bigger problems

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/07/after-18-months-...-story.ars

...which no one noticed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HELrxLdP85c


...or complained about...

http://chris.pirillo.com/windows-vista-complaints-department/

...or complained about and laughed at...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiG7KFDYkLI&feature=related


..they respect us as consumer and are striving to offer a top notch product we desire and need without coercion or extortion ....

http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-c...complaint/

....so I am sure the W7 sp1 , file thing is merely quality control on their part

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R Silverlok said:
wow, if their past practices ( http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/31874/?o=800) are anything to judge by does this mean that W8 will be RTM only be two years to the month after we finally have w7sp1 and it's teddybear hugginess "anti-piracy" 'benefits'? or will they wait for w7sp2 to start the force migration "desire" through questionable anti-piracy 'measures'? The pulling of that file is highly suspicious, I sure would like to compare the before and afters to see how (or if to give the benefit of the doubt) it changed.

I mean Vista showed us that MS considers our machines theirs , and that as with drm we as consumers shouldn't be left to make our own hardware/software choices or even believe that we own stuff and all that worked out SOOO very well for them , somehow I doubt that commercial success for W7 has moved them too far from the thinking behind overly proprietary "we know best" business models (I mean look how far Apple got all the way to Iphone 4, before the customer 'stupidity ' started to make the product suck). Especially considering the thinking goes all the way back to WXP sp2 in 2004.

I think the only reason they waffled on the 'open' kinetics thing was that it's open use was to cut and dry to be explained away by magical OS programing fairies, and they feared the angry angry torches and spears mob that would have seen Darth Vaders helmet taken from Apple and placed back on MS

It's the most likely reason the pulled that file....something was there , even if only perception ....that made them worry about public exposur, with the whole ball game shifting a couple of mistakes ( like missing the mobile explosions were/are for MS ) and they could be looking at some narrower market share , it's not like they have had to fake numbers before to shift public opinion....


http://techrights.org/2010/11/16/towards-evidence-of-fraud/

http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Financials

http://techrights.org/2011/01/14/fake-phone-shortages/

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/stacking_vista_li..._high.html

http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/corporate/microsoft_q2_...mbers.html

http://news.cnet.com/Running-the-numbers-on-Vista/2100-1016_3-6207375.html

....or straight out run an obvious line of near true sh@t to hide bigger problems

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/07/after-18-months-...-story.ars

...which no one noticed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Windows_Vista

...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiG7KFDYkLI&feature=related...

...or complained about...

http://chris.pirillo.com/windows-vista-complaints-department/

...or complained about and laughed at...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HELrxLdP85c

..they respect us as consumer and are striving to offer a top notch product we desire and need without coercion or extortion ....

http://classactionlawsuitsinthenews.com/class-action-lawsuit-c...complaint/

....so I am sure the W7 sp1 , file thing is merely quality control on their part


WHAT THE f**k ARE YOU ON ABOUT MATE.







john albrich Jan 17, 2011, 06:01pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I particularly like one of Chris Pirillo's more interesting assertions...

"Now more than ever, we're in control. The user's are in control. And, that's just the case...that's just it...that's just the case...."

Uh huh. Yup. Just keep repeating that to yourself. Move along. Don't look behind the curtains (or read those pesky things called "bills" and last minute amendments)

Yup. Just ignore those pesky DRM laws, the lawyers, MPAA and RIAA, Net "neutrality", etc. and your life will be filled with fluffy puppies and kitties. You'll be fiiiiine (.....d). We are so in control, aren't we?

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WHAT THE f**k ARE YOU ON ABOUT MATE.



As john points out , Microsoft (and corporate america in general) has a long history of draconian product management that limits or eliminates all together consumer choices or controls. One notorious tactic is their "anti-piracy" measures, which generally are not apparent at product launch but are slowly "eased" into operation over time.

The one glaring exposing and deviation from this rule was 'vista' which was so domineering that it alienated nearly everyone ( i.e. MS thought they owned the OS world so tightly they could implement management much farther afield than previously to their own and their chosen partners enrichment).But, because it's intent was TOO obvious to bury under a deluge of smoke it exposed the OS's problems as being far more thaan simply technical in nature

And don't get me started on the history of IE ( another of MS's epic control failures)

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R Silverlok said:
Kieran B said:


WHAT THE f**k ARE YOU ON ABOUT MATE.



As john points out , Microsoft has a long history of draconian product management that limits or eliminates all together consumer choices or controls. One notorious tactic is their "anti-piracy" measures, which generally are not apparent at product launch but are slowly "eased" into operation over time.

The one glaring exposing and deviation from this rule was 'vista' which was so domineering that it alienated nearly everyone ( i.e. MS thought they owned the OS world so tightly they could implement management much farther afield than previously to their own and their chosen partners enrichment).But, because it's intent was TOO obvious to bury under a deluge of smoke it exposed the OS's problems as being far more thaan simply technical in nature

And don't get me started on the history of IE ( another of MS's epic control failures)


One notorious tactic is their "anti-piracy" measures, which generally are not apparent at product launch but are slowly "eased" into operation over time. - They are always apparent at launch. If you really think MS would release software without these measures, you are delusional. This is how they make their money, they have the right to protect their assets.

Why don't we talk about OSX for a minute? Apple has far lower morals than Microsoft.

You won;t ever have control. Don't bother thinking you ever will. You're connected to the WWW. Got facebook? used google maps from your home IP address? How many details have you given out to fill out user profiles online, websites you've registered to?

Don't worry about your control, you never had it mate



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Be careful to not misinterpret what I'm saying. As the owner of copyrighted and patented intellectual property myself, I'm all for appropriate protections...but the keyword is "appropriate". I think that the original intentions of and needs for "fair use" have been utterly forgotten and trampled on by Congress, and corrupted by some judicial rulings, and enforcement sometimes far over-reaches individual rights and can exclude "fair use" provisions still in effect. For example, simply accessing something does not necessarily mean you have violated copyright. There are "fair use" instances where you can use parts of copyrighted material for a number of reasons in entertainment, politics, education (schools/libraries), etc. But the smack-down often doesn't take that into consideration and ends up hurting people when it shouldn't.

Nevertheless, it's important to remember that when you buy a product, or the rights to use said product, that you are agreeing to the terms of the contract and licenses associated with that action. But, keep in mind that some states and countries hold that some of the conditions in such agreements may be void or partially void. But such are geopolitically-specific exceptions and do not apply to the population at large.

R Silverlok Jan 17, 2011, 06:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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@john: Agreed, but the line separating theft of Ip from control of Ip is something brutally raped more often than not, and the mind set of "the customer is the enemy" is something that MS has been guilty of to the expense of many people. Management of Ip is an interesting dilemma , and the caveats of honest mistakes made in it's pursuit can be damn hard to tell from dishonest or misrepresentative intent.

Given MS track record 'monopoly' wise , financial situation, and recent aborted attempts in a number of new market penetrations, desperation might be driving denial and regression in planning, or it might be forcing the company to take a new approach (like with "allowing" an open kinects), in either case pulling files so close to the lodestone in the compass and replacing them is interesting business

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@john: Agreed, but the line separating theft of Ip from control of Ip is something brutally raped more often than not, and the mind set of "the customer is the enemy" is something that MS has been guilty of to the expense of many people. Management of Ip is an interesting dilemma , and the caveats of honest mistakes made in it's pursuit can be damn hard to tell from dishonest or misrepresentative intent.

Given MS track record 'monopoly' wise , financial situation, and recent aborted attempts in a number of new market penetrations, desperation might be driving denial and regression in planning, or it might be forcing the company to take a new approach (like with "allowing" an open kinects), in either case pulling files so close to the lodestone in the compass and replacing them is interesting business


Is english your first language? If it is, please proof read your posts

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R Silverlok said:
...the caveats of honest mistakes made in it's pursuit can be damn hard to tell from dishonest or misrepresentative intent....

I agree.

But, in the US we have a strong heritage of "innocent until proven guilty" and also the requirement of "probable cause" (which means you can NOT just have a suspicion that someone is doing something wrong) before judges are to approve warrants for searches, seizures, etc. And, simply accessing or even downloading something does not necessarily meet the requirements of establishing probable cause...they suspect someone will do something illegal with the material, even if he doesn't and never intends to.

However, as I said earlier, investigation and enforcement actions have IMO recently pushed a lot of fundamental principles, case law, and even the US Constitution to the side in the pursuit of protecting commercial interests...and it appears to be accelerating.

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Kieran B :
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One notorious tactic is their "anti-piracy" measures, which generally are not apparent at product launch but are slowly "eased" into operation over time. - They are always apparent at launch. If you really think MS would release software without these measures, you are delusional. This is how they make their money, they have the right to protect their assets.

Why don't we talk about OSX for a minute? Apple has far lower morals than Microsoft.

You won;t ever have control. Don't bother thinking you ever will. You're connected to the WWW. Got facebook? used google maps from your home IP address? How many details have you given out to fill out user profiles online, websites you've registered to?

Don't worry about your control, you never had it mate





If I came into your home and broke something and then was not ever held accountable , would you find that acceptable?

You clearly miss my example of apple dropping the ball by telling people they are too dumb to hold a phone right...this neither a MS bash or an apple BASH ( or suck-off in either case),

Protecting IP is not in question here. How a company protects it's IP is. And using questionable IP 'protections' as a cover for various forms of market penetration or product "choice"coercion is no longer smart or progressive management or business
You clearly missed that bit.

Is the update file removal/replacement something to watch , well any good detective will tell you YES, does it imply complicity or duplicity on the part of MS, a pattern of behavior suggests "yes" , but as always only time will tell .


"You won;t ever have control....Don't worry about your control, you never had it mate"
Perhaps, but neither am I naive.If such tawdry fears as being tracked and accountable, predictable and marketable where high on my list I would never post anything ever, or use a cell phone, or go out where google might photograph my underwear...etc, etc, I count on having a very precisely predictable profile, in today's world it's hardly escape-able. But I do have a highly unusual skill set so perhaps I do not view 'control' the way you do.

I know that the right meme is much more powerful than physical control. Rebellion is an idea in the mind ... try to physically suppress it and it only grows. The failure to grasp this concept killed America and it threatens to kill the world ( socially speaking ),

but then again let's not confuse control in commerce with control in society, oh whoops you already did...well that's telling isn't it mate.



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Is english your first language? If it is, please proof read your posts


hwy when you will do it for me


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john albrich said:
"innocent until proven guilty"


Damned I wish , you must not have been in a situation where you had to test that recently :-)

"However, as I said earlier, investigation and enforcement actions have IMO recently pushed a lot of fundamental principles, case law, and even the US Constitution to the side in the pursuit of protecting commercial interests...and it appears to be accelerating."

Agreed, as unfortunate as it is, and it is one of the reasons companies feel they can get away with damn near anything. The only thing that keeps that acceleration from becoming exponential is finding the buds, or bad seeds, of public acceptance for the erosion of liberty in their inception and shining a little light on them. The commercial realm dominates American thinking and is a "great" place to look for trends in the acceptance and failure in applying control mentality.

The Patent system is a fine place to see a ridiculously top heavy system balanced on a pin.

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R Silverlok said:
Kieran B said:


Is english your first language? If it is, please proof read your posts


hwy when you will do it for me



Because you come across as an idiot.....and a lazy one

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R Silverlok said:
let's not confuse control in commerce with control in society, oh whoops you already did...well that's telling isn't it mate.


Commerce effects society directly, as you have proven in your previous rants.

R Silverlok Jan 19, 2011, 01:54am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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@Kieran B

One moment an idiot and in the next breath you cite me as proving your point through my arguments?
Yes I can see your superior wisdom that definitely merits the 'expert' status that thousands of posts of this nature have earned you.

"Commerce effects society directly, as you have proven in your previous rants."

Incorrect,

in America from 1776 until 2006 the system was designed specifically to keep that from ever being the case. There is a difference between republic and democratic not that you would recognize the difference.Nor do you seem to see the irony in you giving a near text book description of capitol fascism and failing to see how corporate polices have come to mirror them.

Of course I would not expect you to be familiar with H.R.6166, the Military Commissions Act 2006 that effectively strips the right of habeas corpus from the people. It is why companies can and will use "commerce" to effect society, and feel they have the right to do so , but you are using commerce in a broad spectrum sense which makes your comments unfocused , and in-concise, a bit like trying to throw hay makers at a judo competition.
To be concise 'commerce' should be an extension of society(and thus controlled by it), your vague comment lets the implication hang that commerce controls society,and that is what a number of very powerful people would very much like every worker bee to believe. And an actual response to my assertion is that with microsoft and it's policies we are talking about control in commerce that is illegal if you get caught trying to control society (and sometimes even other 'commerce') with it ( it's a pretty good joke really )

Why don't you try to show me where the idiocy lay in my 'rants'? you who yourself fails to notice his own grammatical and typing mistakes (of course it's hard to make many with such small words and short posts) and misses out on obvious jokes at his expense ?

It seems you consider this forum your p**sing ground, so I suppose that makes you another of the oh so rare internet tough guys that doesn't get out of his sphere much, but don't let that stop the wonderful flow of your oh so useful comments, we're getting a hell of a kick out of going through these posts.

oh, and about being lazy and idiotic, sure that's true, er, about 85% of the time.

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I took the risk and installing this didn't break anything on my system.


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