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Steven Banks Nov 01, 2010, 11:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Motherboard: Abit An-M2
ram: DDR2 2 Gb
PowerSupply 400 Watts




hi im new to this site but, ive been having problems with my computer for a long time, and im getting desperate to get my computer back up in running...

This is what happened...

ok so one day i deleted nero burning software from my computer, and replaced it with a different version, and i tried to shut off my computer and it wouldn't shut off.. i know im stupid for this i dont know what i was thinking... haha (smoke another one)
after it wouldnt shutoff i unplugged the powercord from the powersupply to turn it off
and it hasnt been on since

i opened up the power supply to see if anything visible has happened, and i had a conducter that was raised so i knew it wasnt good.. but the l.e.d on the motherboard would still light up.. but nothing

i got a powersupply from a friend to see if it was just the powersupply , but i think it was only half the voltage of the other power supply


ive tried making sure everything is plugged in
moved the ram chips
different outlets
touch the pins together to see if it will boot



and if the motherboard is dead, is the Processor dead?, and ram chips, and hardrive and stuff




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Reason   Nov 01, 2010, 11:47pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
touch the pins together to see if it will boot

Careful, voltages can be lethal. Which pins?

Short answer: spend money. Sounds like you're going to need a quality replacement PSU in any case.

Longer answer:
Test computer with quality PSU. If you can't borrow one, save for one. PSUs tend to get overlooked, but it's your gas. Ferrari can't go nowhere without gas.

and if the motherboard is dead, is the Processor dead?, and ram chips, and hardrive and stuff

Maybe. A surge could go through other stuff and tear it up, although it seems to me to be less likely to surge when you're "un"plugging stuff.

I'd start with a PSU you KNOW works and is quality, and go from there.

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john albrich Nov 02, 2010, 12:33am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"

I second Reason's advice re: the PSU.

Check out
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/71973/#540296

Skip the section on PSU evaluation, borrow a good PSU, and go right to the
"The next thing to do to see if you can get a screen to display in the absolute minimum functional configuration:.."

Pay attention to the System Handling advice section while handling parts, especially regarding power, or you very likely will damage things even more.

The PSU probably doesn't have to be very high total watts while you are testing the minimum configuration, so your "half the voltage" (you meant watts, I'm pretty sure) PSU will likely be fine for this initial "minimum functional configuration" assessment.

And for your own sake, at your level of knowledge you should not be messing around INSIDE the PSU. Those voltages can be LETHAL...even when the PSU is unplugged from the wall (AC mains).

Steven Banks Nov 02, 2010, 02:54am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
ya i know i try to be very carefull when messing around with the computer parts.. im not extremely smart about computers, but i can build em, and know other things

i actually made progress today, i dont know what i did differently, but i got the powersupply to fire up.. i just hear a beep every other couple seconds now, nothing shows up on the screen

what should i do now?

PIRATE Nov 02, 2010, 10:15am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
Beeps mean either a RAM stick not working or the videocard not working. Try one stick of ram at a time and try taking out the CMOS battery for a minute and putting it back in.

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Steven Banks Nov 02, 2010, 04:08pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Nov 02, 2010, 04:09pm EDT

 
>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
im doing this with the cmos on clear
ive taken out the ram and tried it one by one, still nothing
ive taken out the cmos battery for awhile nothing

if i plug my monitor into the dvi slot, is that the same graphics adapter?'

should i try to replace the cmos battery ??

i put the pc together in 2007.. it crashed about a year ago
2year battery maybe?

the power needed to run this is min. 300w
and im using 300w MAX. could it not be enough power?

and since ive made it this far is my processor ok?
and motherboard?

thanks for all the help you guys.. the anxiety to get this fixed is overwhealming lol
sorry i suck at all the details

Meats_Of_Evil Nov 02, 2010, 05:43pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
I don't think it will be necessary to change the CMOS.

Unfortunately when problems like this arise the bets thing you can do is try a lot of options and start deducing everything one by one.

First get a new PSU, something in the range of 300-400w. Nothing expensive, I will allow you to get a cheap one, such as long as its Coolermaster, Thermaltake, Antec etc. You'll be alright since your system isn't a power hungry beast.

If the new PSU works then problem solved, just try to boot into the OS and do a backup of your important files just in case. If it does not work, boot or still gives you the beeps then we will assume that it is something else. So we can now check off the PSU from the list.

Next, what Pirate said. If there are multiple beeps it is usually an indication of bad RAM. Maybe the RAM got damaged when you unplugged the PC. Btw you don't have to pull of the power cord if the system is not responding, just leave the power button pressed until it shuts down the PC. Ok, so try and get some compatible RAM borrowed and test them, try in each slot and try each Ram module separately just in case. If it still hasn't booted then we're moving on with the list.

Ok, I will assume that you have an integrated graphics processor since you didn't specify a video card. If this is the case then make sure that you're connecting your monitor into the correct port so that it gives you a signal to the monitor. You can try a different cable if it still doesn't display anything to rule the assumption of a damaged cable which is weird but it can happen. Still nothing? Moving on then.

An assumption I can think of is that the CPU hasn't been damaged since the motherboard will beep till you ears bleed if it's missing a CPU or it will give you a very distinct indication as shown on the manual.

Ok, so what you will want to try out next is to get a dedicated video card. I checked your motherboard and it has 1 x PCI-E X16 slot which you can use to add in a video card. Check your nearest hardware store for a reasonable card depending on what you plan on using it for, gaming or just browsing. Then see if the PSU you have meet the minimum requirements which will be the total wattage and the power in the12v+ rails.


I think this explain most of what you will need to do to get your Pc up and running. If I missed anything or if you have any questions don't forget to reply back or PM me.

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Steven Banks Nov 02, 2010, 08:59pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Nov 02, 2010, 09:00pm EDT

 
>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
Thank you :), its still beeping for the moment i have no money so im trying to sell some stuff to get a new PSU ill keep you posted

or if anyone wants to buy Or TRADE a Dell inspiron 2200 laptop, or radioshack 4 channel mixer.. email me twoskate4@juno.com All i want is my computer back
im a Rapper/Producer/Engineer.. Life feels Empty without my Computer

ill keep you guys posted on what happens.. this has been a real helpful site. thank you very much for helping me

PIRATE Nov 02, 2010, 09:20pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
I'd try a different videocard. I had beeps with dead gpus aswell. They just refuse to work.

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Meats_Of_Evil Nov 03, 2010, 08:42am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
Also, when you buy the PSU test it as quickly as possible so if that doesn't fix the Pc you can return it and exchange it for something else.

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john albrich Nov 03, 2010, 10:03am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Nov 03, 2010, 10:05am EDT

 
>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"

I don't know, Meats. He said earlier about finding "...had a conducter that was raised so i knew it wasnt good..." when he opened the suspect PSU. So even if the new PSU doesn't fix the problem, it might be a good idea to keep it and not use the old PSU again.

Meats_Of_Evil Nov 03, 2010, 10:20am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
You're right John but since he doesn't have money I thought I should mention it to help his pockets a bit.


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Steven Banks Nov 04, 2010, 04:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: what i did, Computer Wont Start "Please Read"
ok so my computer is fixed :), well i still need to buy a new power supply i think my computer is only running half of what its supposed to.. instead of like 3.2 Ghz its 1.6Ghz....

so when my power supply went out it took one of my ram chips with it..

thanks for all your help.. Great Website. I will Recommend it on my music page


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