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Bungle Dec 19, 2010, 12:03am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sandy Bridge will be launching soon, from what I've been reading sometime in January. The system in my signature is due for an overhaul I'm just not sure if I should jump on the Socket 1155 stuff or wait another 6+ months and get one of the Socket 2011 chips. Does anyone know how much faster the 2011 parts are over the 1155?

If you haven't already I would suggest anyone that is interested in Sandy Bridge check this out:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-th...s-in-a-row


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I've heard really good things about the IGP on Sandy Bridge, although I doubt many people here would be utilizing it. :P

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I'll use the sandy bridge IGP if by some miracle its faster than my GTX 480.

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Bungle,

You are in the exact same place as me tech wise, I have skipped the last 2 generations of CPUs as the performance was not much over what I have....in terms of games not all that benchmark s**t....real world performance. So I am GAGGING for sandybridge to be a great chip....

I have the funds put away 90% in anyway...I am just dont know if I should get a new TFT aswell.

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TamTheBam Dec 19, 2010, 11:53am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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An iCore with a buily in Graphics proc. That's what Sandy bridge will be lmao

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Bungle Dec 19, 2010, 01:49pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Plug & Play said:

Bungle,

You are in the exact same place as me tech wise, I have skipped the last 2 generations of CPUs as the performance was not much over what I have....in terms of games not all that benchmark s**t....real world performance. So I am GAGGING for sandybridge to be a great chip....

I have the funds put away 90% in anyway...I am just dont know if I should get a new TFT aswell.


I've been watching the performance monitor on my G15 and newer games have been getting dangerously close to pegging out my CPU... BF:BC2 sits around 80% and peaks in the low 90's... This system just won't be able to take another GPU upgrade because it will be CPU bottlenecked. I guess it is pushing 3 years old.

I'm toying with the idea of picking up an i7 2600K (3.4GHz) and trying to overclock it somewhere into the 4GHz range... I'm sure it would be fast as hell but, will the skt 2011 chips with their quad channel RAM run circles around it? If the difference is as small as it is between 1156 and 1366 in the current generation parts then I don't think I'd wait.

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Bungle Dec 19, 2010, 01:51pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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TamTheBam said:

An iCore with a buily in Graphics proc. That's what Sandy bridge will be lmao


Whatever Tam,

You're only saying this because you're worried that your e-peen is about to get lopped off at the nuts! lol

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Edited: Dec 19, 2010, 03:41pm EST

 
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Hah! It's not required in my book.. yet.. I'm well happy with my epeen. Nothing's gonna
utilise it for a year at least anyways. I could have waited, but what for.... something only
slightly better. Hmmm

Besides, my so called "e-peen" maybe big on HWA but it's nothing compared to what's
outside of HWA. It's not an e-peen anyways. I tend not to think like that. How can you,
when there's a never-ending upgrade plethora of hardware out there!! :P

Anyways, technically, the power of the sandy bridge should have been fcuking YEARS
ago - not today. We shud be MUCH further down the road map than what it is now.
Intel messed up over a decade ago with the CPU's. Yea they're powerful today, cos that's
what we're getting. We're told they're "uber" on pre-release. Just the usual crap.
1GHz was out a decade ago. Now we're just about to break the 4.0GHz stock barrier.
That's roughly an outstanding massive 0.3GHz leap per year! Amazing! Hah! The fecking cheek of it! Well done Intel. A standing ovation NOT!
Oh sincere apologies, I forgot - they gave us extra cores. Oh big deal!

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Bungle Dec 19, 2010, 07:46pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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There do seem to be times when advancement seems to slow to a crawl... I kinda felt that back in the pentium days when it took forever for them to get past 200MHz... seems about like things have been lately with systems all hanging around 3GHz in quad core trim for what seems like ages.

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Meats_Of_Evil Dec 20, 2010, 01:28am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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TamTheBam (34692) said on Dec 19, 2010 at 12:53 AST:
An iCore with a buily in Graphics proc. That's what Sandy bridge will be lmao



Some of the iCores already have a built in igp.

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Plug & Play Dec 20, 2010, 07:51am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Dec 20, 2010, 08:05am EST

 
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TamTheBam said:

An iCore with a buily in Graphics proc. That's what Sandy bridge will be lmao



Ohhhh the haters......bad time to spend big bucks on an upgrade wasnt it TAM.....:P

Nah,

You right Tam, the CPU tech is not as advanced as it should be. I particulary taught the 1st gen i7 chips were not worth it TBH over the older Quads.....But then again why would Intel forge ahead with no visable competition for the chips it has out now.....all due respect to AMD they have made great steps in both the CPU and GPU stakes...more so in the GPU stakes but they are so far behind Intel in the CPU stakes....there is no need for them to knock out far superior chips when the mediocre stuff is far superior ALREADY!!!!

There are 2 main things to consider when upgrading.....IMHO. and it all depends on where you and your rig are at the time of said release. If you have a really old system then it does not matter what you upgrade to as you will see huge benefits across the board. If you have a newer system then you really do have to pick the bones out of things and see if the pros out weight the cons.....

I think with the newer mobos out now (Asus Sabertooth in particular got voted best board around at the moment!!!) with triple channel memory and the new sandybridge chips will be a great performer.....but you gotta look at the numbers upon release....

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TamTheBam Dec 20, 2010, 08:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Why's that? Jus cos i have a say on a new intel chip i'm a hater or being negative because i've just upgraded?

Did u think i didn't kno what was around the corner? I couldn't care less. I didn't buy my stuff 2 impress on here ffs. I bought my hardware because that's what I Wanted not what some on here would like to dictate. I've a build that does ME proud and i'm more than happy with it. And i am not hanging around waitin for new stuff fcuk that. I built the rig to my specification for my needs. I'm at wrk havin a f**kn bad day so there's ur response bite back

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MrBungle said:
Plug & Play said:

Bungle,

You are in the exact same place as me tech wise, I have skipped the last 2 generations of CPUs as the performance was not much over what I have....in terms of games not all that benchmark s**t....real world performance. So I am GAGGING for sandybridge to be a great chip....

I have the funds put away 90% in anyway...I am just dont know if I should get a new TFT aswell.


I've been watching the performance monitor on my G15 and newer games have been getting dangerously close to pegging out my CPU... BF:BC2 sits around 80% and peaks in the low 90's... This system just won't be able to take another GPU upgrade because it will be CPU bottlenecked. I guess it is pushing 3 years old.

I'm toying with the idea of picking up an i7 2600K (3.4GHz) and trying to overclock it somewhere into the 4GHz range... I'm sure it would be fast as hell but, will the skt 2011 chips with their quad channel RAM run circles around it? If the difference is as small as it is between 1156 and 1366 in the current generation parts then I don't think I'd wait.


TBH mate, I dont think that is performance related....more like badly optimised games....MY rig (as yours), is today still quite fast games wise. I think I could even skip this round of CPUs and still be okay for games coming out. I am not gonna get a new GPU either unless the ATi 6990 is 25% faster then the 5970 I have, or the 580GTX gets a super overclock edition out that beats the 5970 across the board not just in some games.

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TamTheBam said:

Why's that? Jus cos i have a say on a new intel chip i'm a hater or being negative because i've just upgraded?

Did u think i didn't kno what was around the corner? I couldn't care less. I didn't buy my stuff 2 impress on here ffs. I bought my hardware because that's what I Wanted not what some on here would like to dictate. I've a build that does ME proud and i'm more than happy with it. And i am not hanging around waitin for new stuff fcuk that. I built the rig to my specification for my needs. I'm at wrk havin a f**kn bad day so there's ur response bite back

;)

You dont have to explain yourself to me Tam, go take 2 XANAX and stroke your ears yoga style and you be grand.....Im sorry you hit enter instead of backspace in work, I hope you save your documents regulary.

I did not know the GRINCH was scottish......:blush:

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It's not my fault you're all jealous of my rig haha!

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Yep, big time...Jealous.... :~


Admit it. Just admit it.....the only reason you got 480's in SLi is coz of the scottish winters....its just so dam cold up there!


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TBH mate, I dont think that is performance related....more like badly optimised games....MY rig (as yours), is today still quite fast games wise. I think I could even skip this round of CPUs and still be okay for games coming out. I am not gonna get a new GPU either unless the ATi 6990 is 25% faster then the 5970 I have, or the 580GTX gets a super overclock edition out that beats the 5970 across the board not just in some games.


Nah, I don't think its poor optimization at all... I think the optimization is just fine, it seems to work all 4 cores about evenly. I would go so far as to say I think it speaks to the quality of the coding done that the game uses 4+ threads and will run smoothly on a 3 year old processor... Now something like Suppreme Commander... one core pegged out, one at around 50%, and the other two in the 30's with the game simulation speed running at about 1/3rd real time... I'd say that is poor use of computing resources.

I'm not sure about skipping another generation... I don't think my core 2 quad is going to make it to 2012 or so and still be able to consistently run games with all the settings pretty much maxed out. Its 3 years old, its time for it to be retired to glorified mp3 player duty in my HTPC.

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Bungle Dec 20, 2010, 11:32am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Some word on launch pricing:
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/cpu_mainboard/sandy_bridge...revealed/1

I'm pretty sure for most of the people on this site the two CPU's to consider will be the 2500K or 2600K, which will be $216 and $317 respectively.

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MrBungle said:
Plug & Play said:
TBH mate, I dont think that is performance related....more like badly optimised games....MY rig (as yours), is today still quite fast games wise. I think I could even skip this round of CPUs and still be okay for games coming out. I am not gonna get a new GPU either unless the ATi 6990 is 25% faster then the 5970 I have, or the 580GTX gets a super overclock edition out that beats the 5970 across the board not just in some games.


Nah, I don't think its poor optimization at all... I think the optimization is just fine, it seems to work all 4 cores about evenly. I would go so far as to say I think it speaks to the quality of the coding done that the game uses 4+ threads and will run smoothly on a 3 year old processor... Now something like Suppreme Commander... one core pegged out, one at around 50%, and the other two in the 30's with the game simulation speed running at about 1/3rd real time... I'd say that is poor use of computing resources.

I'm not sure about skipping another generation... I don't think my core 2 quad is going to make it to 2012 or so and still be able to consistently run games with all the settings pretty much maxed out. Its 3 years old, its time for it to be retired to glorified mp3 player duty in my HTPC.


Well, when I said badly coded I was not specifically referring to BFBC2..but I know what you mean. I bet you did not think your current CPU would last 3 years either...I mean computer years are akin to dog years you could nearly multiply it by 7...lol.

Quoted from your article:-

"Given that there has been evidence of these processors reaching up to 5GHz on air, there is inevitably very little room to complain. Much like how certain processors in a given family become the overclocker's choice, we expect that the same will hold for the upcoming 2500K and 2600K processors"

SW33T!!! :cool:

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I mean computer years are akin to dog years you could nearly multiply it by 7...lol.


I'm not sure its even that good lol.

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Plug & Play said:
TamTheBam said: [quote]
I think with the newer mobos out now (Asus Sabertooth in particular got voted best board around at the moment!!!) with triple channel memory and the new sandybridge chips will be a great performer.....but you gotta look at the numbers upon release....


I canceled my backorder for the gene, and have the Sabertooth in my hands. Amazing price for the quality. $215


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