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C J Dec 20, 2010, 01:41pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Which is better for gaming? for Eyefinity/3 monitor setup.??


3xIPS or 3xLED? Please help.


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Michael C Dec 20, 2010, 01:53pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Thanks Mike, so you think LED will be better for Eyefinity instead of IPS? I thought IPS has the better angle viewing that LED TNs..? or am I incorrect?

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LED is a type of backlighting.

TN vs IPS is the question you should be asking.

TN = cheap, 6bit color (uses algorithims to simulate NTSC color spectrum), fast response times, crappy viewing angles.

IPS = more expensive, full 8 bit color (usually natively supports the entire NTSC color spectrum), decent response times, good viewing angles.

Get an IPS panel... side by side there is no comparison between a TN and an IPS.

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MrBungle said:
LED is a type of backlighting.

TN vs IPS is the question you should be asking.

TN = cheap, 6bit color (uses algorithims to simulate NTSC color spectrum), fast response times, crappy viewing angles.

IPS = more expensive, full 8 bit color (usually natively supports the entire NTSC color spectrum), decent response times, good viewing angles.

Get an IPS panel... side by side there is no comparison between a TN and an IPS.



True true, however I thought you folks would automatically understand the comparision even though I left out the TN part, anyway I will have to see the money flow situation, but I must ask here instead of starting another thread..

What about IPS Panel vs 120Hz TN for eyefinity?

TamTheBam Dec 20, 2010, 04:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Do you guys still use NTSC? Who ever invented that pish should be killed slowly! That
was the worst invention created! Fcuking horrible!

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C J Dec 20, 2010, 04:27pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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TamTheBam said:

Do you guys still use NTSC? Who ever invented that pish should be killed slowly! That
was the worst invention created! Fcuking horrible!


Pardon my ignorance but what is NTSC?

Bungle Dec 20, 2010, 04:32pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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The standard used for displaying video in movies, TV, etc in North America...

Europe is PAL I think.

At any rate the colors on a TN panel are not what were intended by the contents creator because a TN panel cannot display all the colors of the NTSC spectrum.

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Yea we have PAL. Far superior. I've often wondered why you lot didn't opt for this?!

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I'll start with it would make it impossible for me to watch all my Blu-ray/DVD movies without some sort of expensive (guessing) converter contraption.

EDIT: or did they fix that in recent years? is newer equipment compatible with both standards?

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i don't even think NTSC exists like it used to? Does it? We all now have at least 100Hz
tv's now. NTSC is for the old CRT's.

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TamTheBam said:

i don't even think NTSC exists like it used to? Does it? We all now have at least 100Hz
tv's now. NTSC is for the old CRT's.




What do you think about 120Hz TN panels vs IPS Panels for Eyefinity?

Bungle Dec 20, 2010, 04:57pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I think it does in standards with an "i" at the end of them. (480i, 1080i) im pretty sure the progressive scan stuff (480p,720p,1080p) that is taking over has a much higher refresh rate than NTSC. That said I think (and this is a guess here) that the color spectrum is still the same.

Anyway, back on topic. TN panels suck even with LED back lighting. IPS is better everytime even if you have to get one with cathode lighting, you'll spend a lot more time looking at the screen then you will at the back side of the monitor so you probably won't notice/forget about the extra 1" or so of depth to the thing.

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Michael C Dec 20, 2010, 05:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I've heard that TN panels are better for gaming, which he is going to be doing. Can you link me a good IPS model from Newegg? I'd like to see one that looks better than my current monitor.

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Michael C said:
I've heard that TN panels are better for gaming, which he is going to be doing. Can you link me a good IPS model from Newegg? I'd like to see one that looks better than my current monitor.


I'm getting mixed reviews, but more on the sucky side for TN panels..


Anybody have any experience with a 120Hz TN?

G. G. Dec 21, 2010, 09:24am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I wouldnt worry too much about 120hz TN. That is not going to make a break your visual quality on a TN. There are plenty of LCD monitors that run at 60hz and there is NO ghosting while gaming. Now if you get a very cheap cheap cheap monitor then you are chancing it... but even then it may not be a problem. My current 24" LCD (HP w2408h), came out prior to LED type monitors, has no issue with ghosting running at 60hz. Now when it comes to "TV" sets.... that might be a little different as they have different components. This is where you really need a set that is at least 120hz if you are going to game on at "TV" set. 240hz is just throwing money out for nothing.

When it comes to monitors, look for quailty of the monitor..... let it be a single monitor a 3 monitor setup...... visual quality should be your most priority. IPS monitors will do a better job when it comes to visual quality.

Bottom line is.... it is your choice.... if you feel 120hz is important...... then go for it.

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I wouldnt worry too much about 120hz TN. That is not going to make a break your visual quality on a TN. There are plenty of LCD monitors that run at 60hz and there is NO ghosting while gaming. Now if you get a very cheap cheap cheap monitor then you are chancing it... but even then it may not be a problem. My current 24" LCD (HP w2408h), came out prior to LED type monitors, has no issue with ghosting running at 60hz. Now when it comes to "TV" sets.... that might be a little different as they have different components. This is where you really need a set that is at least 120hz if you are going to game on at "TV" set. 240hz is just throwing money out for nothing.

When it comes to monitors, look for quailty of the monitor..... let it be a single monitor a 3 monitor setup...... visual quality should be your most priority. IPS monitors will do a better job when it comes to visual quality.

Bottom line is.... it is your choice.... if you feel 120hz is important...... then go for it.



G.G.

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G. G. said:
I wouldnt worry too much about 120hz TN. That is not going to make a break your visual quality on a TN. There are plenty of LCD monitors that run at 60hz and there is NO ghosting while gaming. Now if you get a very cheap cheap cheap monitor then you are chancing it... but even then it may not be a problem. My current 24" LCD (HP w2408h), came out prior to LED type monitors, has no issue with ghosting running at 60hz. Now when it comes to "TV" sets.... that might be a little different as they have different components. This is where you really need a set that is at least 120hz if you are going to game on at "TV" set. 240hz is just throwing money out for nothing.

When it comes to monitors, look for quailty of the monitor..... let it be a single monitor a 3 monitor setup...... visual quality should be your most priority. IPS monitors will do a better job when it comes to visual quality.

Bottom line is.... it is your choice.... if you feel 120hz is important...... then go for it.



G.G.

Thanks for your reply. I prolly won't go 120Hz, Just was trying to get a good idea of which would be great for Eyefinity setup (LED TN, IPS or 120Hz).

I'm swinging more toward IPS, but there are some folks out there who believe LED would be better.. and this also depends on the money flow from "Santa"....

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LED LCD is an enhanced over regular LCD. You get better contrast and better "blacks". With CCFL backlight of regular LCD, the light is constantly "on". Whereas with LED, they can actually turn all or portion of the LED array "off". This gives better contrast and blacks. The reason they can do this is because with LED, they can turn off/on in an instant but with ccfl, they cant do this as the response is horrible... kinda like switching on and off a ccfl curly light bulb in your house. It takes like ions to turn on. All LCDs will eventually go LED format as it gives better visual and uses less energy. CCFL lighting will die out over time.

Any monitor will work with ATI's "Eyefinity"..... remember, this term is marketing..... a fancy name for 3 or more monitor setup. nVidia's own marketing term is "3d Surround".... in most cases, a video card can support up to "2" monitors and its has been this way for a long time. 3 or more monitors on a singe video card is something new in the past year.

If you are looking to setup a "Eyefinity" as you want to call it....... 3 monitors or more.... my suggestion is to find one of viual quality and monitors with as little bezel as possible. Try to keep the bezel as thin as possible. You dont want 2"x4" boards dividing those monitors as wide borders will ruin the visual effects...


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If you're seriously looking at 3 IPS monitors, you're likely looking at 1000+ dollars total. They may look great, but is it really worth it? The response time on a lot of them is pretty bad compared the 2ms of TN panels, not the best for games if you're a hardcore gamer. It would be much more affordable to buy 3TN panels.


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