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BoT Jan 26, 2011, 07:03pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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are you guys interested in any heatsink reviews?
any particular coolers you guys are interested in?

i will some reviews thats why i am asking


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Scumbag Blues Jan 26, 2011, 09:07pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Heatsink Reviews .. interested?
Heatsink reviews would be pretty awesome since they seem to vary a ton from reviewer to reviewer.

As for specific heatsinks; a Thermalright Venomous-X would be pretty cool.

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>> Re: Heatsink Reviews .. interested?
Hey BoT did you happen to go to CES this year? Would love some pics from you man :( In fact.... I was expecting some.

I would be interested in those new Corsair Coolers, I think some are water cooling but they seem so compact that I'm wondering if they'll do the job better than standard heatsinks.

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Yeah it owuld be cool alrite....I would love maybe the Corsair H70.

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>> Re: Heatsink Reviews .. interested?
yea CES for me was a bummer again. I had it all lined up: XS party, TechREACTION special, etc bu turns out that i will be having offspring again and the wife didn't want to be left alone.

so again no CES for me this year.

i hope i will get the Venomous X in for review. Maybe the H70 but i think i will get the A70 for the H70.

I have done so far:
Scythe Rasetsu
Noctua NH-C12P SE14
Noctua NH-U12P SE2

i have coming up:
AC7 Freezer pro rev2
sunbeam twister 120
Xigmatek LOKI
Xigmatek Gaia
Xigmatek Aegir

corsair A50
prolimatech mega shadow
etc .. a few

i have my work cut out for me.

Most of it i do for TechREACTION and i co-host it on my site. i won't be able to share much of it here but hope you guys come and check them out either over at TechREACTION or my site, Codisha.com

the ones i do independently i can share more of and will do so as time permits

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>> Re: Heatsink Reviews .. interested?
With theses reviews, i would love to see how they compare to stock cooling, also temps before being lapped and after words (factory and aftermarket lapped, assuming the aftermarket needs it).

Do you take your own pictures of the heat sinks? Those are good!

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BoT Jan 27, 2011, 04:59pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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yes, taking all of the pictures myself. at least all the ones with watermarks.
i use one or two pictures from the product page but try to keep it to a minimum.

i thought about lapping as well but i am afraid that the results won't be consistent enough to put them in a official review.
many of the newer coolers come with a nickel plated base and there is not a whole lot to gain with lapping.

maybe some time later i will give it try.

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John Doe Jan 28, 2011, 05:09am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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How about the corsair H60 when its released? Or a preview version or something?

I am very interested in getting one of these kinda coolers as i need something with good performance but a small footprint (size wise) I am also particularly interested in the noise factor too, this is a big issue as my stock heatsink and fan sounds like a damn aeroplane!

As this new one is on the horizon i have held off on looking at H50/70, but a comparison of all three would be awesome.

That would be my pick, thanks :)

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the H60 looks very promising but as the name says, it's going to be something in-between the H50 and the H70. meaning it will be better then the H50 but not as strong as the H70.

i would like to review more corsair stuff but i have to wait for them to come around.
Noctua liked my work and they will be sending the NH-C14 and i am hoping they will also send the NH-D14.

maybe after i am done with the corsair A50, corsair will consider sending something. who knows.

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yea, that would be nice to get in for testing.
atm, anything outside of air cooling i will have to chip in and come up with.
since i have a decent amount of air coolers lined up, that won't be for a while.


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carl rogers Jan 31, 2011, 02:16pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I have a questions about heat sinks that has always puzzled me. I hope it is ok that i post it hear since you are kinda already on the subject.

I understand what heat sinks are for, but I want to know why computers built in towers have
become the norm in custom pc's. I would think that if better cooling was the desired end result the and if you look at the modern aftermarket heat sink they are designed for heat to travel up through them. So if heat rises the wouldn't the old style lay flat desktop box be more efficient to dissipate heat. Seems to me that heat would escape up and through the side of a tower based systems heat sink, rather than up through the entire heat sink and radiator/w fan result in better cooling.

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carl rogers said:
I understand what heat sinks are for, but I want to know why computers built in towers have become the norm in custom pc's. I would think that if better cooling was the desired end result the and if you look at the modern aftermarket heat sink they are designed for heat to travel up through them. So if heat rises the wouldn't the old style lay flat desktop box be more efficient to dissipate heat. Seems to me that heat would escape up and through the side of a tower based systems heat sink, rather than up through the entire heat sink and radiator/w fan result in better cooling.

Simple answer, no. In the old days, sitting on top of those flat desktops were big bulky CRT monitors. There is usually no vent on the top side of flat desktops, because of that reason. A tower can have vents on top side easily and can be more efficient in cooling. They are more flexible ergonomically, too.

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and they usually provide more space on the inside and the space can be used better as well.
it is almost impossible to implement a 120mm fan on the rear of a desktop case because of the I/O panel and the expansion slots, that by itself limits cooling options.

most newer cases also moved the PSU to the bottom and added fans to the top to even more enhance heat removal.

for custom cases and systems, the option of a side window panel is often desired in order to have a view on the system without removing the side panel.

for water cooling, most water cooling radiators perform better and some can only perform in a vertical position.

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You have posted the exact opposite to any kind of logical answer for the question.
I didn't say anything about crt monitors or the placement of psu. The point is why are cases where the motherboard and everything else on the board is in a vertical position, when logic and physics say heat rises up not sideways through elaborate 100 lb heat sinks that hung and stress the motherboard. If it was laid out flat not only would there be less stress on the mounting hardware, but the whole heat sink would be utilized. the way nature intended.

Open up your towers and put your hand or if you have some sort of ambient temperature gauge and put near the upward facing side of the heat sink and then at the bottom.
That difference in temps is not efficiency it is heat rising through the gap between the heat sink and the cpu. You may be able to dissipate that heat with case fans, but that doesn't mean the heat sink is actually doing it job.

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you usually have 4-6 inches of room from the top panel to your heatsink in a tower case.
there is plenty of room to install, mount, mod fans into the top side of the rear panel or the top panel to remove that excess heat.

in a desktop, your heatsink is barely millimeters away from the top panel were the heat accumulates. installing an exhaust fan there could not only be problematic space wise but could also negatively effect the airflow of the heatsink and at the end do more harm then good.

mounting fan to the sides of a desktop will not remove all excess hot air in the case

usually the rule for airflow in computer towers is from front to back and from the bottom to the top. neither of these can effectively implemented in a desktop case

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Wow I guess I posted this question to the wrong people, seems that people have a major hard on for towers and backwards answers to simple questions.

Maybe I should clarify a little. This thread was started to discuss(review) heat sinks.
So it struck me funny that this on going search for the best working sink is never ending.
The reason for that is likely that they are not being used correctly just because of
aesthetics. So that would render any review useless until the sinks were being used properly.AND THAT IS THE UPRIGHT POSITION. HEAT RISES. Put a vent directly above the assembly and heat is move directly out with the assistance of physics not force. if you don't agree with that then you should go back to elementary school and try and stay awake this time.

There are still many desktop cases on the market. They are just towers that lay flat now .
they include many of the features that are included with towers. So why do people think this a better system because it really isn't. .

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carl rogers said:
Wow I guess I posted this question to the wrong people, seems that people have a major hard on for towers and backwards answers to simple questions.

Maybe I should clarify a little. This thread was started to discuss(review) heat sinks.
So it struck me funny that this on going search for the best working sink is never ending.
The reason for that is likely that they are not being used correctly just because of
aesthetics. So that would render any review useless until the sinks were being used properly.AND THAT IS THE UPRIGHT POSITION. HEAT RISES. Put a vent directly above the assembly and heat is move directly out with the assistance of physics not force. if you don't agree with that then you should go back to elementary school and try and stay awake this time.

There are still many desktop cases on the market. They are just towers that lay flat now .
they include many of the features that are included with towers. So why do people think this a better system because it really isn't. .


LMAO....heat travels through metal horizontally as good as it would vertically.....well, close enough to not make a difference in such a small form factor

It is a better system to use towers than desktops....why? Airflow is much better as they have front and rear fans to make a tunnel effect....most desktops have rear fans, maybe a side one....so they're not nearly as good for airflow.

Most towers have front, rear and and even top fans, so heat is escaping everywhere. Desktops have a large flat bottom with usually no vents....some are like an oven.

If this wasn;t the best way to do it, then why do all major manufacturers of both custom towers and pre built OEM computer use the tower?

in a desktop, your heatsink is barely millimeters away from the top panel were the heat accumulates. installing an exhaust fan there could not only be problematic space wise but could also negatively effect the airflow of the heatsink and at the end do more harm then good.
- Very good point.



100 lb heat sinks that hung and stress the motherboard
- No stress at all. Mainboards are held on by several screws.....

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>> Re: Heatsink Reviews .. interested?
Well I guess I have been proved wrong. Oh wait no I haven't. If you look around on the net for computer enclosures you will find that all of the high end case producers all carry desktop style enclosures. Heck even antec has created the skeleton. When reviewers of these cases refer to them they toss around big words like High efficiency ventilation . I wonder what that could mean. Just admit that the reason towers are preferred is because people like to showcase the thousands of dollars the just spent on a new toy.

The argument that a tower increases airflow is kinda moot. Take a closer look at the inside of both and arguably there is little difference except the amount of hardware that can be crammed inside. Modern towers hold multiple hdd,cd/dvd drives,video cards and other peripherals. The destop style generally only only hold one hdd,cd/dvd and just the important card. Just that alone cuts heat down quite a bit. Probably 75 percent at least. So one efficient fan on the back could reduce just heat just as well as four or five case fans on a tower. Not to forget with all those extra fans you do not have to have 800 watt psu's or higher to power all this stuff which results in things like less heat produced inside the case. Also there would be less demand on you wallet at the end of the month when you get your utility bill.

So lets review.....
Desktop: Smaller, more efficient and easier on the the wallet.
Tower: Bigger, More room to cram in electrical heat producing devices, and Needs a lot more power to run.
Hummmmmmm sounds pretty like an easy choice.

If you don't believe me just look around the net. Don't just believe what the morons sell you at fry's or whats the most readily available.

Just because the Chevy dealership is the only place in town where you can get a new vehicle. Doesn't make Chevy the best choice.

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carl rogers said:
Well I guess I have been proved wrong. Oh wait no I haven't. If you look around on the net for computer enclosures you will find that all of the high end case producers all carry desktop style enclosures. Heck even antec has created the skeleton. When reviewers of these cases refer to them they toss around big words like High efficiency ventilation .
Wow, a case review that says high efficiency ventilation....welcome to the computer case review world buddy. Ventilation is the key topic for most case reviews.....and of course all case manufacturers provide desktop style cases....why completely kill off potential market?

carl rogers said:
Just admit that the reason towers are preferred is because people like to showcase the thousands of dollars the just spent on a new toy.
Wrong. If the reason was to show off their toy, then why do OEMs provide no side window? Why are their cases so fugly? Why are their 'plain' style tower cases?

carl rogers said:
The argument that a tower increases airflow is kinda moot. Take a closer look at the inside of both and arguably there is little difference except the amount of hardware that can be crammed inside. Modern towers hold multiple hdd,cd/dvd drives,video cards and other peripherals. The destop style generally only only hold one hdd,cd/dvd and just the important card. Just that alone cuts heat down quite a bit. Probably 75 percent at least. So one efficient fan on the back could reduce just heat just as well as four or five case fans on a tower. Not to forget with all those extra fans you do not have to have 800 watt psu's or higher to power all this stuff which results in things like less heat produced inside the case. Also there would be less demand on you wallet at the end of the month when you get your utility bill.
So you're saying that desktop cases are cooler because they have less hardware in them? So basically you're saying the case has little effect on the heat inside, but more the components.....duh. The fact that a high end tower case can provide BETTER cooling with MORE hardware inside than a desktop case effectively kills your argument. You can get a high end tower case that provides exceptional airflow/cooling for cheap....desktop cases are generally more expensive if you want the same features....supply and demand...basic economics.

carl rogers said:
So lets review.....
Desktop: Smaller, more efficient and easier on the the wallet.
Tower: Bigger, More room to cram in electrical heat producing devices, and Needs a lot more power to run.
Hummmmmmm sounds pretty like an easy choice.
Wrong. It all depends on the hardware you put in it. Terrible analysis. You can get full size desktop cases too by the way...and you can get mini towers too....so...again, bad analysis.

carl rogers said:
Just because the Chevy dealership is the only place in town where you can get a new vehicle. Doesn't make Chevy the best choice.
Again, a terrible comparison...you're talking about a brand name when you say Chevy....you should be talking about the size of the car. A smaller car generally produces less engine heat, has a smaller radiator and engine fan. A larger engine car, has a larger radiator and a larger fan because it creates more heat....now put the smaller engine in a larger car, and the airflwo around the engine is MUCH better....then cram the large engine in a smaller bay, and you get more heat because there is less airflow.....this is why a lot of people put in cold air intakes in their engine when they upgrade to larger, more powerful parts, so it can get air from underneath the car because there is less airflow.....


This is really simple stuff....not hard to grasp.

A desktop case can not compete with a tower case in terms of cooling using the same hardware....PERIOD.

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>> Re: Heatsink Reviews .. interested?
you have obviously not read the review which is elementary to this conversation.
why should i or anyone else who is interested continue to argue with you if you are not even willing to do the leg work of giving it a read.


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