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Adam Harmon Feb 15, 2011, 05:48pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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So, to the nudging and suggestions of friends and foes alike, I have decided to build my own pc. My specifications are:

CPU: AMD Athlon II x2 255 Regor 3.1GHz Processor

RAM: Patriot Signature 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 1333

PSU: Raidmax Hybrid 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power

Video Card: PNY VCG98GTEE1XPB GeForce 9800 GT 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support

Motherboard: BIOSTAR A770E3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD

Hard Drive: Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C HDS721010CLA332 (0F10383) 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"

DVD Drive: LG CD/DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP21 - OEM

So yeah, it's a gaming desktop. Without the OS, it costs me about $350. Now, I was wondering, do I need to buy the Windows 7 OEM version, or can I get the retail version for it?


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Edited: Feb 15, 2011, 06:20pm EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question

Well, I'd suggest you go for DDR3-1600 RAM instead of the 1333. If you time things right, you can find 1600 that's basically the same or even cheaper $/GB than 1333.

You likely paid a bit more for the 3.1GHz CPU (vs for example the 2.9GHz version), and needlessly crippling it with 1333 RAM seems like such a waste.

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/77413/

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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
Well, I haven't bought any of it yet. Will it cripple 3.0Ghz?

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Edited: Feb 15, 2011, 08:10pm EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
are you planning to buy the 9800 GT as well? .. and why?

edit:
also i would reconsider the PSU. you won't need anything near 700+ watts.
this PSU could very well be enough for this system:
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 CMPSU-430CX 430W - $44.99 ($34.99 w/MIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139017
here is a review of it
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-Power-Sup...iew/1200/1

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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
Someone on another website compiled a list of items to build my desktop, so, that is why I have the GeForce 9800. I am open to other suggestions, like I said, I am wanting to build a gaming desktop.

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Edited: Feb 15, 2011, 09:28pm EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
I would start from scratch. Those parts (mainly the mobo and video card) are faily dated. You can build a much better setup with newer components and spend roughly the same.

What is your budget and what are you looking to do with your PC?

If you go AMD, make sure you get a socket AM3. Like John said above, the faster memory, the better. Also, AMD has the 8 series of chipsets out. I would look for a motherboard that supports one of them (as well as the faster memory, and heck make sure it has USB 3.0 and SATA 3 too).

I would also take a look at the HD5xxx or HD6xxx series of video cards. Great performance for cheap.

Adam Harmon Feb 15, 2011, 09:39pm EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
kOrny said:
I would start from scratch. Those parts (mainly the mobo and video card) are faily dated. You can build a much better setup with newer components and spend roughly the same.

What is your budget and what are you looking to do with your PC?

If you go AMD, make sure you get a socket AM3. Like John said above, the faster memory, the better. Also, AMD has the 8 series of chipsets out. I would look for a motherboard that supports one of them (as well as the faster memory, and heck make sure it has USB 3.0 and SATA 3 too).

I would also take a look at the HD5xxx or HD6xxx series of video cards. Great performance for cheap.


Mostly Gaming. Force Unleashed is the most advanced game I have, but my current laptop is not up to task.

I have a $400 a month and my tax return is going to be $200. So, I'll have $600 by the end of the month.

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Edited: Feb 15, 2011, 11:02pm EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
how about something like this

Antec Three Hundred - $59.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681112904...-_-Product
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W - $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz - $208.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067
GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 - $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) - $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148333
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

or

MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II SOC GeForce GTX 460 - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519

with the GTX 560 $790.-, not including MIR's, with GTX 460 $690

you can drop the case and save $60 if you have one

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john albrich Feb 16, 2011, 12:48am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 16, 2011, 01:02am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
Adam Harmon said:
Well, I haven't bought any of it yet. Will it cripple 3.0Ghz?

My comment was mostly acknowledging that you were willing to pay $2 or $3 more for a higher-speed CPU...so if you don't have to spend any extra by buying 1600MHz RAM, then why "cripple" the system with slow memory when you can get faster memory for the same or even better price.

Saving $2 or so and even further crippling your system by going for the Athlon II 3.0GHz Regor CPU instead of the 3.1GHz isn't the answer.

By the way, if you search thoroughly you can even find 6GB or 8GB packages of RAM that are competitive with 4GB packages. For example, By searching for sales, rebates, etc. I just bought 6GB of DDR3-1600 RAM for $20 LESS than the 4GB DDR3-1600 package that BoT recommended (as reflected in the thread I pointed to in my earlier post above).

If you're using a 64bit OS, I would NOT limit it with 4GB. Limiting your OS to 4GB can reduce system (and gaming) performance considerably...the more RAM the OS can use the less often it has to use the harddrive for memory paging. In addition, the more RAM your video card has (e.g. 1GB v. 512MB), the more system RAM Windows reserves for video operations...thereby leaving even less available for the applications and the OS...resulting in even more harddrive paging activity...which further slows down the system.



edit to add:
But, be sure that whatever RAM you buy, your motherboard supports the required voltage (read the RAM's specs). For example, some DDR3-1600 RAM is designed for 1.5V while other DDR3-1600 RAM is designed for 1.65V, and while the 1.65V RAM will likely work at 1.5V, the speed may have to be limited and you're back to -1333 or even -1066 speeds. But as long as your mobo supports the RAM's specified voltage you'll be fine.

Adam Harmon Feb 16, 2011, 01:43am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 16, 2011, 01:44am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
john albrich said:
edit to add:
But, be sure that whatever RAM you buy, your motherboard supports the required voltage (read the RAM's specs). For example, some DDR3-1600 RAM is designed for 1.5V while other DDR3-1600 RAM is designed for 1.65V, and while the 1.65V RAM will likely work at 1.5V, the speed may have to be limited and you're back to -1333 or even -1066 speeds. But as long as your mobo supports the RAM's specified voltage you'll be fine.


So to make sure I understand. For example this motherboard: BIOSTAR N68S AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA MCP68S Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138294

Would be able to use this ram: CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (4 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M4A1333C9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682014526...-_-Product

john albrich Feb 16, 2011, 05:20am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 16, 2011, 06:04am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question

No. The BIOSTAR N68S AM2+/AM2 doesn't support DDR3.

AM2 motherboards support DDR2.

Also as far as I know, there very few if any AM3/AM2+/AM2 motherboards that support DDR3. I think I recall seeing one AM3/AM2+/AM2 motherboard that could take either DDR3 or DDR2, but I'm not sure. Two of the slots were for DDR2 sticks, and 2 were for DDR3 sticks (DDR3 and DDR2 sticks are not physically compatible) and you could only install one type at a time...no mixing permitted.

I've stuck with the general guide that if it has AM2 anywhere in the title, it's DDR2, and if it has ONLY AM3 in the title, it supports DDR3...but double-check it anyway. In fact, these days I'd triple-check by verifying the motherboard at the manufacturer's website. E-tailers have been known to provide the wrong information.


edit to add:
When looking at what RAM a given motherboard can handle, you have to check that the specified parameters are met individually AND in combination

--Type (e.g. DDR3 v DDR2),

--Speed (e.g. 1033 v 1600 v 2000 v etc),
and then you want to see if the spec says you have to "OC" the mobo
to use a particular speed (e.g. 1600)

--Voltage the motherboard can supply to the RAM (e.g. 1.5 v 1.65 v etc),
1.5V is pretty much a given these days, higher voltage capability can vary

--Maximum memory supported (e.g. 4GB v 8GB v 16GB)

--Number of memory slots provided (e.g. 2 v 4) which defines how you buy your RAM
(e.g. 4sticks of 2GB v 2sticks of 4GB v etc)


edit to add:
And of course there's a general total physical RAM limitation independent of what motherboard you buy w/r the OS you're using. You stated you plan to use the Win7 OS BUT it ALSO depends on which version of Win7 you plan to use. For example, note that Win7 Home Basic maximum RAM drops way down to 16GB. see:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx#physical_memory_limits_windows_7
192GB Win7 Ultimate-Professional
128GB Win7 Home Premium
016GB Win7 Home Basic
007GB Win7 Starter

(sorry about the multiple edits in such a short time, but I take some pretty potent meds and sometimes it takes a few tries to state things clearly and completely, and I only catch some things when I see it actually posted)

Jon Bailey Feb 16, 2011, 07:46am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: Feb 16, 2011, 08:29am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
The machine that BoT has displayed above is quite competitive, it may be worth holding on and saving a bit more $ it will be worth it in the long run

does the US have some kind of aversion to socket 1155 motherboards? I was putting together a machine using sandy bridge core processor for this chap and I cant seem to get a motherboard in the US, its quite mind boggling that Newegg sell the processors but not compatable motherboards.

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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
they took all 1155 of the shelve since the press release of intel's sata controller fiasco on the sandy bridge platform.

the refresh should be coming soon but who knows if that will even catch on

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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
BoT said:
how about something like this

Antec Three Hundred - $59.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681112904...-_-Product
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W - $89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz - $208.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067
GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 - $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4GB (2 x 2GB) - $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148333
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565

or

MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II SOC GeForce GTX 460 - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519

with the GTX 560 $790.-, not including MIR's, with GTX 460 $690

you can drop the case and save $60 if you have one



Not bad, but the 650W PSU is too much, so a saving could be made there. Antec 300 is a good budget case, recently built a rig for a friend with one.

Also, for those prices, I'd go Sandy Bridge.

Core i5 2500 $209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073
The Gigabyte P67 UD3 is only about $120

If he can wait a couple of weeks, that would be my suggestion, no point paying the same price for out dated hardware.


Rosewill RG530 $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199

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Jon Bailey Feb 17, 2011, 06:42am EST Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
Dubs, I was looking at sandy bridge for the build but I was having trouble with the motherboard in the US, but I have since found that P67:

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 Intel P67 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard $130.68
http://www.excaliberpc.com/601438/gigabyte-ga-p67a-ud3-intel-p67-lga.html

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) $194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231443

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Edited: Feb 17, 2011, 07:08am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
Jon Bailey said:
Dubs, I was looking at sandy bridge for the build but I was having trouble with the motherboard in the US, but I have since found that P67:

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 Intel P67 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard $130.68
http://www.excaliberpc.com/601438/gigabyte-ga-p67a-ud3-intel-p67-lga.html

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) $194.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231443


I'd get the i5-2500 instead, you can save the difference by going with the PSU I posted :) (its only $15 more anyway!)

You'd have the bones a of a very decent build there.

I recently built a rig for a friend with the same case, i5 2500, Asus p67 Pro, GTX460, 8GB ram.

Its a very slick machine I must say!

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Edited: Feb 17, 2011, 01:18pm EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
Thanks for all your guys input.

A couple things I've learned so far by you guys:

You can't just add any RAM card to your mobo. It has to be either the DDR2 or DDR3. and you best check it before getting. (DDR2 generally seems to be a bit more pricey it seems.)

600 W PSU is a bit of an overkill.

And to make sure the video card will fit the mobo before getting it.

Edit to Add:

What do you all think of this:

SAMSUNG EcoGreen F2 HD103SI 1TB 5400 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152173

Kingston HyperX 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104072

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103903

Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023

Rosewill Stallion Series RD450-2-SB 450W ATX V2.2 Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182075

BIOSTAR A780L AM2+/AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138285

XFX HD-545X-ZAF2 Radeon HD 5450 (Cedar) 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150470

Windows 7 Home Premium OS

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Total Cost: $405 + $5 for shipping and handling

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>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
i put in the corsair 650w unit in because i also added the option for a GTX 560. with that video card i would recommend that PSU.
i would also recommend this PSU for expandability instead of having to shell out for another PSU later down the road.
if there is gaming involve at all you want to get a decent video card.

i would trust that corsair unit a whole lot more then the roswill unit .. anyday.

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Edited: Feb 18, 2011, 06:14am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
BoT said:
i put in the corsair 650w unit in because i also added the option for a GTX 560. with that video card i would recommend that PSU.
i would also recommend this PSU for expandability instead of having to shell out for another PSU later down the road.
if there is gaming involve at all you want to get a decent video card.

i would trust that corsair unit a whole lot more then the roswill unit .. anyday.



The corsair is a good unit no doubt, but so is that Rosewill. I ordinarily wouldn't recommend a Rosewill, but its actually a decent unit.

Adam - that build is very outdated. At the very least, get a DDR3 board with DDR3 ram. You would get 4GB DDR3 for the price of that 2GB DDR2 (which is being phased out, hence its more expensive.)

I believe everyone here posted much better machines than the one you've specced there.

That EcoGreen drive is very slow. Get a Samsung F3 instead. 1TB is about $50 or so. Much better HDD.
Samsung F3 $49.99

The Rosewill RG530 is a different type of unit altogether than the (frankly) rubbish PSU you chose. I wouldn't power my razor with that.

Here is the CPU/RAM/Mobo/HDD combo I would chose within your budget.

Samsung F3 $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181

ASUS M4N68T-M V2 $54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131669

OCZ DDR3-13333 4GB $41.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227589

Athlon II x3 2.9Ghz $71.99 (or the CPU you chose if you cannot afford this one)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103920

Your CPU/Mobo/Ram/HDD comes to $210.96

My choices come to $207.96 (if same CPU chosen) and my build is faster, more future proof.

I'd also encourage you to get this Case:
Antec 300 $59.95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

Over the Rosewill you chose. Its a MUCH better case, and only $15 more.


**edit

Also, the HD5450 GFX card is stupidly underpowered. A Geforce GT220 is much faster (and cheaper).

ECS GeForce GT220 $56.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814134090

or this
PowerColour HD4830 $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131381
Is a WHOLE lot of GFX power for the price.

But for the same price of around $70
Sapphire HD5670 $69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102870

The HD5670 is a very decent mid / low end card - much better than that crap 5450 you picked. About 3x faster.

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4GB DDR2-800
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Edited: Feb 18, 2011, 07:41am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question

As you've said your system is for gaming, that does make it more important that you look at the nitty-gritty details and how things work together. If all you wanted was an entry-level HTPC it would be different.

I'm definitely with Dublin_Gunner on the RAM and video card issue. But remember that combination AM2/AM3 mobos are generally incompatible with DDR3 RAM modules.

You can get much better RAM and video card for the same (and sometimes less) money.

Do not get a 64bit video card for a gaming machine.

At minimum get a 128bit card for gaming especially with an underpowered CPU/mobo. 128bit cards are almost always on sale and/or rebate and can be had for $40-$60. I'd definitely also go with HD56xx and above if at all possible. IF you are forced into a tradeoff, I'd go with a 128-bit 512MB card before I went with a 64-bit 1GB card. But of course the clock speeds are important too. DDR5 video card memory is also preferred over DDR3 and definitely over DDR2. Also, if you have to choose based on price between DX11 and DX10...IMO DirectX11 is not an absolute requirement, especially with a budget machine...you just aren't going to be taking advantage of the incremental features of DX11. I'd choose a faster DX10 or more memory card over a slower and same or less memory DX11 card. In fact, I wouldn't even worry about whether my video card had DX11 while shopping. I'd go for the best performing video card (that meets your other criteria) you can find for the money you have (but double-check to make sure it's not DX9). If it happens to have DX11, that's just gravy.

(BTW, the XFX HD-545X-ZAF2 64-bit 1GB DDR3 video card you chose is now marked as "Deactivated" (discontinued) on the Newegg website)

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Edited: Feb 18, 2011, 08:00am EST

 
>> Re: Building my First PC, and I have a question
John - I don't know whether you've seen my updated post above^^

I basically re-built it for him lol

I'd nearly choose the HD4830 above any of the other cards, as its generally more powerful, though is DX10.1 not 11 (not that it matters as most DX11 features are in DX10.1 anyway, and the HD4xxx series & drivers supports most DX11 features, like compute shader & multi threaded rendering).

Its $10 cheaper.

The board I chose is an AM3, DDR3 based model. Not the best mobo in the world, but plenty for his needs, and a decent price.

I also chose a much faster HDD (which was also cheaper) and DDR3 4GB for nearly the same price of 2GB DDR2.

CPU is ok for the budget. I'd defo go with the Antec 300 over the Rosewill case, and the Rosewill PSU I posted earlier is actually a very good unit, 80 Bronze certified also.

If there was an extra $100 available for the build, the vid card and CPU could be upgraded to much better models - but I think his budget is around the $400 mark.

Its incredible the power you can buy for that type of money these days. A rig like the one I posted above will play all modern games at medium/high settings.

Great value to be had :)

*edited to clarify the DX10.1 / DX11 issue


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