Please register or login. There are 0 registered and 1108 anonymous users currently online. Current bandwidth usage: 326.30 kbit/s December 18 - 07:54am EST 
Hardware Analysis
      
Forums Product Prices
  Contents 
 
 

  Latest Topics 
 

More >>
 

    
 
 

  You Are Here: 
 
/ Forums / Peripherals /
 

  Mices, Mouses, and various DPI 
 
 Author 
 Date Written 
 Tools 
G. G. Mar 31, 2011, 10:41pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List Replies: 17 - Views: 4550
OK folks... lets talk about DPI when it comes to mices and mouses...............


The question - is "more DPI" better ?????

For the past few years, on current system..... I have been using a Logitech MX Revolution - http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/14/logitech-mx...027854.jpg

It is a great mouse for its time.... The DPI of this mouse is locked at 800dpi.

It have worked nicely for the past 4~5 yrs both performance and ergonomics.

BUT......

I was thinking of getting a new mouse. One of those ones with really high DPI's .. and geared torwards more gaming performance....

Now there are the two I am looking at

Microsoft SideWinder X8 (4000dpi) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105255

Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 9 (5600dpi) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102063


So......... if higher DPI is better..... will it help with fps gaming as in more accurate shooting as a engineer/recon in BFBC2 ?????

your thoughts ?????





---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
Want to enjoy fewer advertisements and more features? Click here to become a Hardware Analysis registered user.
Michael C Mar 31, 2011, 11:46pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
Yes and no. I've played around with different DPI settings/resolutions etc, to find out what works the best for accuracy. In the end it doesn't really matter. It's more about how the mouse feels to you. If a higher DPI helps with that then it's a good thing. A higher DPI is supposed to be better at higher resolutions but I would say anything past 3500dpi is overkill. I use anywhere from 1100-3500dpi and see no reason to go any higher than that.

As for the mice you are looking at getting, there are much better options out there. I'd have to say out of all the mouse I've used/tested that the Logitech G500 comes out on top. It's a great FPS mouse.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682610431...-_-Product

micro Apr 01, 2011, 01:10am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
Ditto on what Michael C said.

Slightly higher Dpi helps so that you don't have to move the mouse as far, but i found a mouse pad makes a bigger difference then the mouse for the most part.


GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3, 2600k @ 4.0
16 gig Corsair Vengeance
Evga gtx 260 216, samsung 2253lw"
Baracuda 7,200.12 CoolerMaster 212 +
Win 7 64, fsp fx700-gln, Razer DA,G15
Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid
Silence in the face of evil is it's self Ev
<a class= Apr 01, 2011, 01:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
i've had MX1000 ever since it came out, it has very low dpi compared to all new mice and i never had a mouse pad with it.

if you need more sensitivity, just raise it up in windows.

higher dpi is stupid for most tasks.

_______________________________________________________
3930K @ 5.00Ghz | GA-X79-UD3P | 16Gb DDR3 | GTX770 | W7 x64
Plug & Play Apr 01, 2011, 09:49am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI

Peeps are totally missing the point here. A higher DPI value is not the most important thing in a mouse apart from ergonomics, its the REPORT RATE thats key. A high DPI is great for flying games and a low DPI is great for sniping in games.

If you have invested in a high resolution mouse, adjusting the USB polling rate is a common trick to utilise the added precision it brings. The polling rate (or report rate) determines how often the mouse sends information to your computer. Measured in Hz, this setting equates to lag time (in ms).

Taken From Internet:-

By default, the USB polling rate is set at 125hz. The table below represents combinations of Hz values and their corresponding delay time:
Hz ms
1000 1
500 2
250 4
125 8
100 10

If the polling rate is set at 125 Hz, the mouse cursor can only be updated every 8 milliseconds. In situations where lag is critical (for example games), it is useful to decrease this value to as little as possible. Increasing the polling interval will improve precision at the tradeoff of using more CPU resources, therefore care should be taken when adjusting this value.

I am not sure what other mice have a good rate but mine has 2 settings, 500 and 1000 so its very precise. Best mouse on the market IMHO and not becoz I have it

i5 2500K @ 4.8Ghz- Corsiar H50 WaterCooler- Coolermaster Realpower 1000w- Asus P8P67 Deluxe - Asus 6990 4GB - 8GB Corsair DDR3 2000Mhz - X-Fi Sound - 7.1 Surround Speakers - BenQ 24" TFT - G9x Mouse- G19 Keyboard
Meats_Of_Evil Apr 01, 2011, 10:31am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
How do I adjust the polling rate? Is it a Windows setting?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Everything I write is Sarcasm.
Plug & Play Apr 01, 2011, 11:23am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI

No, it will come with the driver application. AFAIK you cannot adjust the RR in the O/S.

i5 2500K @ 4.8Ghz- Corsiar H50 WaterCooler- Coolermaster Realpower 1000w- Asus P8P67 Deluxe - Asus 6990 4GB - 8GB Corsair DDR3 2000Mhz - X-Fi Sound - 7.1 Surround Speakers - BenQ 24" TFT - G9x Mouse- G19 Keyboard
G. G. Apr 01, 2011, 02:24pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List

Edited: Apr 01, 2011, 02:26pm EDT

 
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
thanks guys for the input....

So what I am hearing is when it comes to DPI..... high is good but after a certain point then it becomes a diminishing return thing..... Higher DPI is good for flying or fps (frontline soldiers) and lower DPI is better for fps (snipers).

So basically, when it comes to these higher end mices/mouses ..... get one to one's personal preference when it comes to feel, programability, wired or wireless, ergonomics, and cool factor. And since mices/mouses are kinda like speakers..... in that how peripherals will interface with each individual will vary greatly from one person to another.....

This go around, I will add the DPI into my normal requirement mix, i.e. wireless, weight, fitment in my hand, and COOL FACTOR... lol...

I'll let you all know which one I end up getting.....


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
Michael C Apr 01, 2011, 03:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
I know about polling rate as well, but he didn't mention that. Luckily, any high end mouse that you buy will have a default polling rate of at least 500hz, and VERY likely an option in the drivers to change it to 1000hz. This is becoming more and more common with mice. Both my Naga and G500 have this ability built into the drivers.

Plug & Play Apr 01, 2011, 05:28pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI

You can also get mice now that work on GLASS....sweet I know.,,,not hugely useful but great if you have a glass desk.

It really depends what you want the mouse for, and how much you wanna spend.

i5 2500K @ 4.8Ghz- Corsiar H50 WaterCooler- Coolermaster Realpower 1000w- Asus P8P67 Deluxe - Asus 6990 4GB - 8GB Corsair DDR3 2000Mhz - X-Fi Sound - 7.1 Surround Speakers - BenQ 24" TFT - G9x Mouse- G19 Keyboard
8o8 Apr 01, 2011, 11:33pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
i have a g9 and a razor naga. i play wow rift hence the naga and fps like bc 2 g9 there. the sweet spot for me in fps is anywhere from 2000dpi to 3500dpi anything higher i over turn and miss my target or i just get dizzy lol . for sniping i usually lower it to around 500 to 600 . most gaming mouses have settings youc an change the dpi on the fly . just look for a mouse with adjustable dpi so youc an tune it to your liking. i would go to computer store and get a feel for some of the mouses . i like to rest my palm on the whole mouse . myl fren likes to just claw his like just letting his fingers toucht he mouse .

cpu-intel core i7 2600k oc 4.5ghz 1.28v
cpu cooler- corsair h50
mobo-asus sabertooth p67
ram-some generic kingston lol
psu corsair 600watt
video card- pny gtx460
case- thermaltake v9
Dublin_Gunner Apr 04, 2011, 05:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
I have a Coolermaster Storm Sentinel. Its quality.

For BC2 for instance, here are the DPI settings I use:
Tank / flying: 5600
On foot: 1800
Sniping: 800/400

I use the DPI on the mouse rather than changing sensitivity in game, and as they're all stored on the mouse itself, means my settings stay the same even after re-installing.

All adjustable on the fly, and configurable. I think the polling rate is set at 1000hz (but adjustable also).



Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
G. G. Apr 06, 2011, 11:26pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
Hi fellas,

Well.... I have gone out and got a new mouse. I decided to get the -

Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 9 (5600dpi) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102063

I have had it for a couple days now.... At this point, I dont have a definate answer on if this was a good move or not.... I like it alot but it is just weird......

First off.... the SOB will fly right of my mat in a heart beat... the sucker is really slick.... Guess it just tells me that the pads on my old MX Revolution is just plain wore out... lol...

Secondly.... this thing has booocuuuu of adjustments. You can adjust the thumb and palm width, exchange different styles of thumb, palm, and pinky rest, lighten or add weight to the mouse, and all the different programing. I am still fiddling with the shape adjustments.

Now.... for the DPI thing..... WOW.... when set to 5600dpi, the freaking cursor just flies across the desktop screen... way too sensitive for normal use. Currently, I am using 3200 for desktop use. I like this setting so far. So right now, my DPI program button is set for 5600, 3200, 1800, and 400. This DPI program button is very useful I have to say. Now.... I tried different DPI while playing BFBC2. Tried 5600 as a foot soldier... LOL... OMG.. I was spinning like crazy all over the place... got real dizzy... BUT... this setting is great during chopper flight, much better control. As a foot soldier, I am fiddling between 1600~1900... As for sniper... still testing that out but so far I am at 800... but there is a sniper button at the thumb which when held during scope sighting, steadies the gun real nicely. Have to get more pratice using this sniper button...

Finally........ another thing I like about this particular mouse is that it just plain looks COOL. eheheh very high tech.

oh.... almost forgot... there is one CON to this mouse though... Not too big of a deal but a con never the less. This is its battery life. So far, my first run on the rechargable battery has last only 12hrs of continuous use (desktop apps and gaming). There are two batteries that comes with this wireless mouse. One in the charging cradle and the other in use. Once the battery that is in use runs out of juice... it is just a matter of pull it out (literally without having to open any doors), replace it with the fully charged batter from cradle, and then install the depleted battery into the cradle for charging. So, so far my first battery only last 12hrs of continuous use... a little shy of my MX Revolution lasting 4 days days of heavy usage... lol...

At the moment, I am pleased with my purchase but I am sure many of you are thinking that I am crazy to get one that is so expensive..... Hey.... a little something for myself for landing a new job and I am no longer in the soup line (for now)...


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
Dublin_Gunner Apr 07, 2011, 03:39am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List

Edited: Apr 07, 2011, 03:41am EDT

 
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
I don;t have much of an opinion on the RAT. I don;t like the look of it, looks like a retarded Transformer.

Seems like you'd get your fingers stuck in parts of it or something lol

It does have some good features however, but nothing that would make me want one over my CM Storm Sentinel Advance.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&t...mitstart=1

The software with the Storm is excellent. Best mouse software I've seen. Onboard ram for storing settings, adjustable weights, 5 different customisable presets all selectable on the mouse, and each with 4 DPI settings that are customisable too. Macro / script support (all storable on the mouse), lovely shape for me, no batteries to worry about, braided cable etc I could go on.

Its the best mouse I've owned bar none. I had a logitech G5 before it, and I thought I'd never replace that, but this is excellent.

Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
G. G. Apr 07, 2011, 08:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
Dublin_Gunner said:
...........looks like a retarded Transformer.

Seems like you'd get your fingers stuck in parts of it or something lol




LOL !

So far I can tellya that I havent stuck my fingers in places where it shouldnt be. hahahah

The looks, ahahah .... each to its own and I dont claim that everyone is going to like it. ahahah.... when it comes to asthetics, each to its own and the only one it matters is in eye of the beholder...

One of the criterias in a mouse for me is that it has to be wireless. I'm sure there is a version of the one you use is in a wireless format.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-
Dublin_Gunner Apr 07, 2011, 08:28am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
G. G. said:
Dublin_Gunner said:
...........looks like a retarded Transformer.

Seems like you'd get your fingers stuck in parts of it or something lol




LOL !

So far I can tellya that I havent stuck my fingers in places where it shouldnt be. hahahah

The looks, ahahah .... each to its own and I dont claim that everyone is going to like it. ahahah.... when it comes to asthetics, each to its own and the only one it matters is in eye of the beholder...

One of the criterias in a mouse for me is that it has to be wireless. I'm sure there is a version of the one you use is in a wireless format.



Iactually don;t think there is a wireless version of mine.

Ah I was more taking the pish out of the RAT. It seems to get good reviews, so must be decent. Though for the price, it would want to be!

Lancool PC K62
Phenom II x3 @ 3.5Ghz
4GB DDR2-800
ASUS GTX570 DirectCU II
jen mendoza Jun 20, 2011, 08:11am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List  
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
yes....the HIGHER DPI the Better for gaming....and the HIGHER the DPI the Higher it will also cost :)

Rex.LT Rex.LT Jul 28, 2011, 10:21am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
Private Message - Add to Buddy List

Edited: Jul 28, 2011, 10:38am EDT

 
>> Re: Mices, Mouses, and various DPI
“more DPI is better” is ridiculous.I think the screen resolution decides DPI.
For example, you use a 17 inches LCD and the resolution is 1024*768.At the same time,you use a high DPI mouse like 5600.What will happen?At most circumstances,you can't find you cursor,as it moves too quickly.Another example,so many CS players uses Ie3.0 or IO1.1 and their DPI are only 400.Why?Because they always use 800*600 even 640*480 resolution.If they use 5600DPI,maybe I can beat those professional players.
:P
Someone likes the cursor moving fast and others like it slow.Up to now,23 inches screen,I think about 3500DPI is enough.
That's my idea.
(My English is poor and welcome to point my mistakes of syntax and words.):O


Write a Reply >>


 

    
 
 

  Topic Tools 
 
RSS UpdatesRSS Updates
 

  Related Articles 
 
 

  Newsletter 
 
A weekly newsletter featuring an editorial and a roundup of the latest articles, news and other interesting topics.

Please enter your email address below and click Subscribe.