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Michael C May 26, 2011, 06:25pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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What do you think? Is it worth it?


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Plug & Play May 26, 2011, 07:03pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?

If you have not worked this one out since the "SB" launch mate.....there is something seriously wrong.....

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Michael C May 26, 2011, 07:55pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Sorry but I don't masturbate to computer these days like you my man!

Michael C May 26, 2011, 09:27pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
What are the best priced motherboards and ram that would match up well with a 2500k?

Meats_Of_Evil May 27, 2011, 03:00am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
To me it's not worth it. Quad Core to faster Quad Core isn't an upgrade like Single Core to Quad Core was. I doubt it will make you jizz like the first time one upgrades from a single core to a Quad core.... I wasn't the only one right?

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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Plus AMD's Bulldozer is around the corner, not only will we know if they will beat Intel which I doubt but all cpus will certainly go down in price, especially Intel's offering.

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john albrich May 27, 2011, 03:26am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Michael C said:
What are the best priced motherboards and ram that would match up well with a 2500k?


Unfortunately, with all the promos, discounts, and rebates going on, it's not possible to provide a "best price" answer any longer.

Best advice is to keep watching the various e-tailer websites, use the various "coupon/on-sale" info sites, and be patient. I've seen prices on motherboards, RAM, etc. differ by almost 50% in the span of a day on the same website.

It's probably better to provide your feature specifications/wish-list, get some recommendations as to which items would best meet your criteria, and then start watching the websites and monitor prices on those recommended items. For example, do you require USB3, integrated video, DDR3-1866 or higher, multiple PCIe-x16 slots for Crossfire or SLi, SATA 6Gb/s (generally only get meaningful gains over 3Gb/s with SSDs), etc.

Michael C May 27, 2011, 08:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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I guess I just meant what boards and ram are typically the best for their price...

Plug & Play May 28, 2011, 06:06am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Michael C said:
Sorry but I don't masturbate to computer these days like you my man!


You would want to have you head covered in "man cum" for months not to have been aware of the performance differences between the 2 CPU's...ffs!

I went from a Q9450 @ 3.8Ghz with a very fast motherboard and RAM to this 2500K and P8P67 Deluxe with the DDR3 2000mhz Ram and the difference is huge. Throw in a 6990 and it rounds it off nicely....:cool:

For the price of the CPU the bang for buck is throught the roof, and with the new B3 revised mobo's you are on the pigs back....

As for the AMD "Bulldozer Chips" they will be like a 90 yr old erection = FLOP!!!!!

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mothow May 28, 2011, 12:01pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 28, 2011, 01:42pm EDT

 
>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Well coming from someone that has a PC with a Q6600 and one with a i7 920 and now 2600K

Yes i have one of each in a running PC's

My i7 920 is now running a 700watt OCZ psu and a Asus GT440 video card.Out of the 3 i like my Asus P5N-D + Q6600 and 9800GTX+ with Vista Home Premuim 64 best.

I mean hell yeah my i7 920 and 2600K stomp the Q6600 in benchmarks but when it comes to games or just web browsing the Q6600 is my fav.Im about to pull my GTX470's and see how well they will run in the q6600 machine,

Now is it worth it yeah its worth it? if you need more power it is but if not then no its really not since you seem to have a decent machine now.Im just a PC whore with a big ass CC bill..lol

Seriously though if your not having anytrouble with your games or what ever you do most then save your money

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Michael C May 28, 2011, 02:39pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Sounds like it's really that much better. I've read the reviews etc, etc but first hand experience is what I trust most. My pc is good yes, but I would like to get better fps in Darkfall. When there are 100vs100 fights it gets choppy and I've heard getting a better CPU really helps.

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Edited: May 28, 2011, 07:56pm EDT

 
>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
You could try to find a Q9650 or just get a 2500K and this board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138317
But i think id go with the TZ68 version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138320
and a set of G Skill Rip Jaws and you will have a kick ask setup for under $500.That board gets some killer reviewers frorm people that dont need a lot of HD's and DVD drives


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231274

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138320

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

= $409.97 shipped

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G. G. May 29, 2011, 10:01am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Michael C said:
What do you think? Is it worth it?



It's not worth it..... All the guys here that have already upgraded to SB have wasted their dough... There are folks here says that SB is wasted of time... They based that solely on joe smoz not understanding product line terminology/names... so it must be waste of time.. They also are very sure of themselves that you should wait for Bulldozer.. It is going to be faster than C2D.. Maybe a C2Q.... So you should wait for it... You know.. the whole idea of price/performance ratio.... pay less get less is the way to go....


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G. G. May 29, 2011, 10:37am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 29, 2011, 10:53am EDT

 
>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Michael C said:
What do you think? Is it worth it?



LOL...



Hey Michael,

If you want to move onto a SB platform... do it... besides..... you are moving up two generations.. That right there in itself will give you preformance benefits. So it is a good time to move up as anything two generation or more will surely give you a noticable boost.

Now imo i would not say that if you were just upgrading to the next gen and definately not in the same gen.

As for motherboards... I suggest you move to the Z68 chipset over the H/P67 as it has some additional features. Like being able to use the IPG on the SB and then switch over to the discreet graphics without rebooting.. So for normal lowend stuff like email or websurfing, the chipset will use the IPG on the SB and then when it detects more demanding applications like games, then it will switch over to your discreet graphics... One other benefits of this also will be power savings..

As for what brands of mb.... I definately go for a Gigabyte as they have become excellent and stable/reliable mb, ASUS - well we all know that they will always be in the mix with the top brands. and ASRock, I definately take a look at them as they have become one with great performance and giving you LOTS of features as a lesser cost when comparing to other brands...

Link to graphics switching - http://www.techspot.com/review/395-asrock-z68-extreme4/page4.html
(note: according to the article, you want to say away from Hydralogix utility as it does not work. Look for Virtu utility as this works).

Intel is also shipping the Z68 with LucidLogix Virtu GPU virtualization software, which offers power savings by allowing your system to toggle between a discrete video card or Sandy Bridge's built-in graphics engine for a specific task -- think of Nvidia's Optimus technology on the desktop



Lucid's Virtu software GPU virtualization technology supports dynamic switching between a dedicated video card and Sandy Bridge's integrated graphics. The switch doesn't require a reboot and it occurs based on which application is using the graphics subsystem at the same time. It's designed to work with all second-generation i3/i5/i7 processors and automatically picks one of the GPUs for a specific job.

The software can assign tasks in real time to the best available graphics resource based on power, performance and features, with no need for additional hardware. If it detects that you're trying to run a demanding DirectX 11 game, it'll whip out the big guns. If it thinks you can get by with the integrated graphics, your discrete GPU automatically idles, decreasing noise, heat and power levels




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G. G. May 29, 2011, 10:52am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
If I were to go with a SB and a Z68 chipset today... these are the motherboards I would be considering


GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3P-B3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128493


GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128494


ASRock Z68 PRO3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251


ASRock Z68 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157250



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Plug & Play May 29, 2011, 02:45pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?

Just wait for the new stuff and get a fraction of the performance over SB and twice the price!

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Sofia Brown May 30, 2011, 01:22am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
I also some doubt for this may be this is not correct decision at this time.

Zero May 30, 2011, 02:47am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Hey Michael,

I am not here to tell you if it is worth it or not because I am not using a quad core processor at the moment.

I am here to tell you that if you go ahead with the upgrade, make sure that the Motherboard has a display port.
If it does not, you will NOT be able to use the integrated GPU.

I am currently looking at the Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3. It has more than 6 SATA ports and the black color is great (not really a feature).
So, make sure that the board you buy supports Virtu. Otherwise, you lose the integrated GPU.

I almost fell into that trap. I was going to purchase a Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3.
I was checking out the Newegg reviews and one of the user pointed the problem on his new Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3, which is the top model for Z68.
That board sells for $350...one would assume that all Z68 features are there.

There are other boards from Gigabyte, cheaper ones. I am not sure about other manufacturers. I always buy Gigabyte.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&...ntel%20Z68

As for performance gain, as G.G. has pointed out, you should notice a boost given that the 1st gen Core i processors are faster than C2D and 2nd gen is faster than 1st gen.

If I were you, I might wait to see how Bulldozer performs. Rumors say that the launch was delayed by around 2 months.
Same rumors go SB-E...they say it way delayed to Q2 of 2012....but they are rumors.
The original launch date is the first week of June for Bulldozer... around 7th...if the rumors are not true.


Good luck. ;)

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john albrich May 30, 2011, 04:02am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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Edited: May 30, 2011, 04:07am EDT

 
>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
Zero said:
...I am here to tell you that if you go ahead with the upgrade, make sure that the Motherboard has a display port. If it does not, you will NOT be able to use the integrated GPU.....


Integrated video performance is typically FAR below that of even basic separate video adapters. It would be a waste of money to buy a CPU/mobo combination for performance, esp for games, and then use the integrated video. Even if it claims a relatively decent series model number (whether AMD or NVIDIA) it's often a crippled implementation with reduced memory allocation, pipelines, etc.

And even if it lets you bump up the performance a bit e.g. via "hybrid" Crossfire capable, it's still going to be relatively low performance, and the compatibility in hybrid mode may be limited to just a few available video cards.

Integrated video is ok for base functionality (e.g. internet videos, HTPC, etc.) but the moment you start demanding very much out of it at high resolutions you'll be disappointed.

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added reference to hybrid capability

G. G. May 30, 2011, 10:32am EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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hey John,

Look at my previous post.... These new IGP on the Sandy Bridge, same goes with the one on Fusion, are not the same IGP of the past. They are much better. Yes, previous IGP are not very good and usually regulated to mundain duties and they pewk at the very first sign of anything taskful. But the IGP today processors with SB and FUS, are actually good... still not as good as a high end discreet card but as good as one in the low/high ~ mid/low cards. The one area where the IGP in the SB does really well is in video transcoding and other multimedia functions... they built in features that will speed up task in these areas in a big way.. One of the reviews had a time of encoding a piece scrip that would normally take 1:34mins took only :17sec. That is some big time savings if you are into encoding/transcoding.

So far, on the Z68 platform with HydraLogix Virtu, you can switch between the onboard IGP of the SB back and forth with your high end decreet gpu. No hybrid crossfire here.. It is either or depending on the application. Once it is setup, there is no rebooting between the two. It does it depending on the needs of the application.

I like this because if one were to get a SB processor.... He can use both gpu... unlike when it was first introduced, it was either or and not both depending on wether if you got a H67 or P67.


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Zero May 30, 2011, 03:03pm EDT Reply - Quote - Report Abuse
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>> Re: Q6600 to 2500K?
john albrich said:
Zero said:
...I am here to tell you that if you go ahead with the upgrade, make sure that the Motherboard has a display port. If it does not, you will NOT be able to use the integrated GPU.....


Integrated video performance is typically FAR below that of even basic separate video adapters. It would be a waste of money to buy a CPU/mobo combination for performance, esp for games, and then use the integrated video. Even if it claims a relatively decent series model number (whether AMD or NVIDIA) it's often a crippled implementation with reduced memory allocation, pipelines, etc.


No argument here, John. The integrated GPU is pretty limited for 3D apps.
But, as G.G. has pointed out, the video transcoding in SB is unbelievably fast.
They use this technology called Quick Sync.It is faster than nVidia's Cuda and AMD's Stream.
Even the picture quality of the video is better...pretty close to software transcoding.
Also, I would prefer to have my discrete card in sleep mode if it is not in use.
Saves power and reduces overall heat output.

Even if I am not planning on using the integrated GPU, I think it is better to have
a board that supports it as long as I am shooting for a Z68 board.
You never know when it comes handy...

If you're interested, Tom's Hardware published an article about Quick Sync.
It was a good one read.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/video-transcoding-amd-app-...,2839.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z68-express-lucidlogix-vir...,2888.html


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